| Johnson now rejecting No Deal 09:55 - Sep 9 with 7123 views | Guthrum |
In his press conference with Varadkar in Dublin. |  |
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 09:56 - Sep 9 with 3909 views | wkj |
Clearly his Monday morning strategy meeting didn't go very well. |  |
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 09:56 - Sep 9 with 3908 views | footers |
Bookmarks 'failure of statecraft' for two months' time.
Not that it really matters what Boris says. |  |
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 10:06 - Sep 9 with 3832 views | GlasgowBlue |
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 10:09 - Sep 9 with 3798 views | wkj |
| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 10:06 - Sep 9 by GlasgowBlue |
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It wont come as a surprise when Banon commands him to keep the hard right nationalists on side | |
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 10:13 - Sep 9 with 3777 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 10:09 - Sep 9 by wkj |
It wont come as a surprise when Banon commands him to keep the hard right nationalists on side |
No it won't. Farage always has been, and remains, the biggest threat to the Tories. He taps straight into the right wing of the Tory party support, which is no surprise seeing he's one himself. |  |
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 10:44 - Sep 9 with 3700 views | ElderGrizzly |
This is very good.
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 10:45 - Sep 9 with 3691 views | chicoazul |
No, he is saying it will be a failure for Ireland and Britain, that's not quite the same thing. |  |
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 10:45 - Sep 9 with 3686 views | chicoazul |
| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 10:06 - Sep 9 by GlasgowBlue |
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He's already betrayed the so called One Nation Tories by sacking most of them. | |
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 10:55 - Sep 9 with 3638 views | Guthrum |
| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 10:45 - Sep 9 by chicoazul |
No, he is saying it will be a failure for Ireland and Britain, that's not quite the same thing. |
He repeatedly said he wanted to get a deal. That it would be a failure not to do so. Everything he spoke about regarded the forging of a deal. Not once did he advocate leaving without one.
Perhaps I am tainted by reading the Telegraph BTL comments, where the common view is that No Deal is the only true and pure version of Brexit, so movement away from that rhetoric attains significance. | |
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 10:56 - Sep 9 with 3625 views | WeWereZombies |
| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 10:44 - Sep 9 by ElderGrizzly |
This is very good.
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Just let that bombshell at the end sink in for a minute... |  |
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 11:04 - Sep 9 with 3593 views | sparks |
| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 10:55 - Sep 9 by Guthrum |
He repeatedly said he wanted to get a deal. That it would be a failure not to do so. Everything he spoke about regarded the forging of a deal. Not once did he advocate leaving without one.
Perhaps I am tainted by reading the Telegraph BTL comments, where the common view is that No Deal is the only true and pure version of Brexit, so movement away from that rhetoric attains significance. |
Ut seems quite clear that he has no expectation of getting a deal and is not making any realustic efforts. The rhetoric cobtinues to be utterly disingenuous. |  |
| The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 11:10 - Sep 9 with 3567 views | Guthrum |
| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 11:04 - Sep 9 by sparks |
Ut seems quite clear that he has no expectation of getting a deal and is not making any realustic efforts. The rhetoric cobtinues to be utterly disingenuous. |
Unless he's decided that bowing to the hard-liners is proving too much of a dead end and this is the beginning of a change of direction. After all, he is under immense pressure to do so, poth politically and from the constriction of his options.
Perhaps that is overly optimistic and he is only seeking to disarm. | |
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 11:12 - Sep 9 with 3554 views | Guthrum |
| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 10:45 - Sep 9 by chicoazul |
He's already betrayed the so called One Nation Tories by sacking most of them. |
But that hasn't got him anywhere except completely helpless in the Commons. | |
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 11:13 - Sep 9 with 3553 views | sparks |
| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 11:10 - Sep 9 by Guthrum |
Unless he's decided that bowing to the hard-liners is proving too much of a dead end and this is the beginning of a change of direction. After all, he is under immense pressure to do so, poth politically and from the constriction of his options.
Perhaps that is overly optimistic and he is only seeking to disarm. |
He has lied about his intent throughout.
He knows that the EU require the backstop or a solution to the irish border. He knows he has no solution and has not proposed one. | |
| The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 11:13 - Sep 9 with 3549 views | wkj |
| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 11:12 - Sep 9 by Guthrum |
But that hasn't got him anywhere except completely helpless in the Commons. |
I am sure Theresa May is secretly loving this on a personal level. Professionally she is probably as dismayed as you'd expect. | |
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 11:15 - Sep 9 with 3535 views | BlueyandCrazy |
| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 11:04 - Sep 9 by sparks |
Ut seems quite clear that he has no expectation of getting a deal and is not making any realustic efforts. The rhetoric cobtinues to be utterly disingenuous. |
Issue is whilst the polls continue to suggest he would win an election, he will continue with the bulls–t right wing head ant populist trumpesque strategy.
Sad thing is the risk that no deal presents will most impact those who are attracted to this two fingers approach. |  |
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 11:18 - Sep 9 with 3514 views | Guthrum |
| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 11:13 - Sep 9 by sparks |
He has lied about his intent throughout.
He knows that the EU require the backstop or a solution to the irish border. He knows he has no solution and has not proposed one. |
Altho he might think he can get away with a reworded and rebranded version of the WA and its backstop, which might stand a chance of getting through the House with everything that's happened. | |
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 11:22 - Sep 9 with 3494 views | Herbivore |
The issue Boris has is that I believe he does want a deal but he and his cronies realise that the only possible deal is one that is identical or largely indistinguishable from the one May negotiated. He's described that deal as 'dead' and he knows it's unpalatable to the ERG and the hard right party membership that elected him. If he brings back that deal then he's toast, so he's left asking for unicorns whilst not entering any serious negotiations. That leaves us in a no deal scenario by default but it seems he'd rather that than lose face with the right wing loons. Unfortunately for him, no deal is being blocked by Parliament and so he's stuffed for now.
He's got nowhere to go and it makes his empty rhetoric all the more obvious. He lacks the integrity, talent and seriousness to do the job in hand and we see that writ large everytime he speaks. It's made even more stark when he's made to speak alongside serious people who know what they're doing. |  |
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 11:36 - Sep 9 with 3460 views | sparks |
| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 11:18 - Sep 9 by Guthrum |
Altho he might think he can get away with a reworded and rebranded version of the WA and its backstop, which might stand a chance of getting through the House with everything that's happened. |
I am quite convinced he is set on no deal. And that he has probably rationalused it to himself on the basis that there is a faint outside chance the eu will drop the backstop to avoid no deal. | |
| The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 11:42 - Sep 9 with 3428 views | chicoazul |
| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 11:04 - Sep 9 by sparks |
Ut seems quite clear that he has no expectation of getting a deal and is not making any realustic efforts. The rhetoric cobtinues to be utterly disingenuous. |
Quite right. | |
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 11:44 - Sep 9 with 3420 views | Guthrum |
| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 11:36 - Sep 9 by sparks |
I am quite convinced he is set on no deal. And that he has probably rationalused it to himself on the basis that there is a faint outside chance the eu will drop the backstop to avoid no deal. |
They might reword the backstop a bit, but think it very unlikely they'll discard the substance of it (without a cast iron alternative). And the roads to an October No Deal are rapidly closing off.
Sadly, I don't think pragmatism really comes into it. | |
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 11:57 - Sep 9 with 3360 views | sparks |
| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 11:44 - Sep 9 by Guthrum |
They might reword the backstop a bit, but think it very unlikely they'll discard the substance of it (without a cast iron alternative). And the roads to an October No Deal are rapidly closing off.
Sadly, I don't think pragmatism really comes into it. |
Hes a fraud of a pm.
As for Javed yesterday... He claimed that proposals were being put with new ideas. Said he couldnt say what they are as you dont show your hand in a negotiation.
Disingenuous. You DO show your offers and proposals in a negotiation. Else the other side dont know what they are! He couldnt say what they were because they dont exist. | |
| The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett) | | Poll: | Is Fred drunk this morning? |
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 12:09 - Sep 9 with 3327 views | Guthrum |
| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 11:57 - Sep 9 by sparks |
Hes a fraud of a pm.
As for Javed yesterday... He claimed that proposals were being put with new ideas. Said he couldnt say what they are as you dont show your hand in a negotiation.
Disingenuous. You DO show your offers and proposals in a negotiation. Else the other side dont know what they are! He couldnt say what they were because they dont exist. |
Agreed. I don't see how publishing their proposals in any way disadvantages the UK's negotiators.
Unless, of course (and assuming any exist), they're afraid there will be experts queueing up to demolish them as impractical or half-baked. | |
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| Johnson now rejecting No Deal on 12:20 - Sep 9 with 3279 views | Guthrum |
It's upset Farage.
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