| All these nutters and their death threats 14:47 - Sep 27 with 3481 views | SpruceMoose |
Is it really about Brexit? Or is it something bigger than that, and Brexit is the excuse? |  |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| All these nutters and their death threats on 14:49 - Sep 27 with 2756 views | itfcjoe |
It is the same as the States where Trump is the excuse |  |
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| All these nutters and their death threats on 14:50 - Sep 27 with 2755 views | ActionMan |
I find it more amusing that they all happened within the last week or so at the politically most useful time for them to happen. |  | | |
| All these nutters and their death threats on 14:50 - Sep 27 with 2745 views | SpruceMoose |
| All these nutters and their death threats on 14:50 - Sep 27 by ActionMan |
I find it more amusing that they all happened within the last week or so at the politically most useful time for them to happen. |
Tell us more about that theory. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| All these nutters and their death threats on 14:56 - Sep 27 with 2727 views | m14_blue |
| All these nutters and their death threats on 14:50 - Sep 27 by ActionMan |
I find it more amusing that they all happened within the last week or so at the politically most useful time for them to happen. |
You think they've just started happening in the last week?
Seriously?
Or do you think maybe they're being reported more extensively now because of the political environment? |  | | |
| All these nutters and their death threats on 14:58 - Sep 27 with 2719 views | SpruceMoose |
| All these nutters and their death threats on 14:56 - Sep 27 by m14_blue |
You think they've just started happening in the last week?
Seriously?
Or do you think maybe they're being reported more extensively now because of the political environment? |
Sounds worryingly like he thinks they're some kind of false flag situation... | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| All these nutters and their death threats on 14:59 - Sep 27 with 2709 views | No9 |
| All these nutters and their death threats on 14:50 - Sep 27 by ActionMan |
I find it more amusing that they all happened within the last week or so at the politically most useful time for them to happen. |
You seriously think that do you? | | | |
| All these nutters and their death threats on 15:05 - Sep 27 with 2690 views | wkj |
Imagine the irony, one is willing to harm onto another so we can rule from our own country and courts, the very courts that ruled in such a way that make them want to cause harm onto another.
Not trying to insult the mental capacity of anyone when I say this, but supporting brexit or remain feels like is has turned into masses of people wanting to see their team in the final, that is to say FA Cup final, not this champion's league gubbins. |  |
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| All these nutters and their death threats on 15:12 - Sep 27 with 2681 views | SpruceMoose |
| All these nutters and their death threats on 15:05 - Sep 27 by wkj |
Imagine the irony, one is willing to harm onto another so we can rule from our own country and courts, the very courts that ruled in such a way that make them want to cause harm onto another.
Not trying to insult the mental capacity of anyone when I say this, but supporting brexit or remain feels like is has turned into masses of people wanting to see their team in the final, that is to say FA Cup final, not this champion's league gubbins. |
Yep. Even I will admit that aside from the obvious benefits of remaining in the EU, one aspect of remaining I would enjoy rather a lot would be to see the sweet tears of all those lunatic leavers who have put the UK in the toilet because of their own ignorance and bigotry.
To be clear, not all Leave voters and all that. I'm specifically talking about the group who were motivated by the hatred of our European cousins.
I don't think I have ever had such a distaste for others in society before. Not a great thing to admit but I'm sick of their ignorance, their stupidity and their bigotry, and I want there to be an opportunity for them to be proved wrong. [Post edited 27 Sep 2019 15:13]
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| All these nutters and their death threats on 15:37 - Sep 27 with 2626 views | StokieBlue |
It's the same as everything - poor education.
If we want people to behave rationally and address problems with intelligence then we need to give them the tools to do it. I know I bang on about it but it's my firm viewpoint that many people lack the skills to really analyse the issues we face today.
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| All these nutters and their death threats on 15:46 - Sep 27 with 2592 views | wkj |
| All these nutters and their death threats on 15:37 - Sep 27 by StokieBlue |
It's the same as everything - poor education.
If we want people to behave rationally and address problems with intelligence then we need to give them the tools to do it. I know I bang on about it but it's my firm viewpoint that many people lack the skills to really analyse the issues we face today.
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My good friend Floyd Pink would disagree, and claim education helps worsen the issue. However, he uses a lot of double negatives when he speaks so I am not sure if I can agree. | |
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| All these nutters and their death threats on 16:18 - Sep 27 with 2537 views | jaykay |
| All these nutters and their death threats on 14:50 - Sep 27 by ActionMan |
I find it more amusing that they all happened within the last week or so at the politically most useful time for them to happen. |
try looking up Robert Vidler, Jarod Kirkman ,Geoffrey Farquharson to see when people were sending death threats to m.ps. best of all look up Jack Renshaw who got life for plotting that in 2017. i think that might amuse you as you put it
i'm starting to believe you a old poster with a new name |  |
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| All these nutters and their death threats on 16:26 - Sep 27 with 2526 views | manchego |
The loss of an imagined world.
The loss of an expected life which didn't pan out because the world is confusing and complicated and they couldn't adapt or accept.
Women being capable and exceptional. Women having strong opinions.
People coming here from many places and contributing and thriving.
The world not needing tired, lazy, negative, entitled people. |  | | |
| All these nutters and their death threats on 17:14 - Sep 27 with 2459 views | Pinewoodblue |
| All these nutters and their death threats on 15:37 - Sep 27 by StokieBlue |
It's the same as everything - poor education.
If we want people to behave rationally and address problems with intelligence then we need to give them the tools to do it. I know I bang on about it but it's my firm viewpoint that many people lack the skills to really analyse the issues we face today.
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Poor education coupled with a feeling of helplessness., a feeling that they are being ignored by the establishment. Ironic considering they are turning against socialism into the arms of parties to the right.
A number of FB friends share silly stuff and even talk about never voting again as their views are ignored. |  |
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| All these nutters and their death threats on 17:20 - Sep 27 with 2452 views | wkj |
The referendum was handled like garbage. They should have had a clear contingency plan in place before even dreaming of considering the referendum. Thanks Cameron, ya goof. | |
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| All these nutters and their death threats on 17:25 - Sep 27 with 2434 views | Pinewoodblue |
| All these nutters and their death threats on 17:20 - Sep 27 by wkj |
The referendum was handled like garbage. They should have had a clear contingency plan in place before even dreaming of considering the referendum. Thanks Cameron, ya goof. |
We were supposed to vote remain, they didn't need any plan | |
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| All these nutters and their death threats on 18:01 - Sep 27 with 2407 views | factual_blue |
| All these nutters and their death threats on 17:20 - Sep 27 by wkj |
The referendum was handled like garbage. They should have had a clear contingency plan in place before even dreaming of considering the referendum. Thanks Cameron, ya goof. |
Government policy was to remain.
The financing of government extends only to financing government policy.
It would therefore have been unlawful to spend any significant amount ahead of the referendum on 'leave' planning. Or even on what a negotiating to leave strategy might be.
The mistake was rushing to trigger Article Fifty. |  |
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| All these nutters and their death threats on 18:21 - Sep 27 with 2384 views | J2BLUE |
It's much bigger. I don't how how to draw the divide between the two sides or what motivates each side but this is way bigger. A certain recent poster who I won't name was all in for no deal, then he was the biggest cheerleader for May's deal, then May's deal was a betrayal and finally no deal was the true Brexit all along. The majority of people who still support Brexit can't tell you why or what they want. They just want Brexit, whatever Brexit ends up being. This has been built up into an us versus them battle. Us (to the Brexiteers) seems to be the people at large which is quite amusing when you see who the ringleaders of hard Brexit are.
I don't think this vote has ever been about the EU for most Brexiteers. It's a reaction and a bloody nose from people who are pissed off and/or unhappy who found a common cause to unite under. In time, this period of UK history will be referred to as The Great Brexit Tantrum and I fully acknowledge my part in that for voting out to begin with.
Brexit has become a battleground for both sides. To be honest, I don't think the majority of remainers were as passionate about remaining either until the result came in and the media started analysing the result and the idea that the enlightened had voted to remain while the idiots had voted leave gained a lot of attention. I believe that, in part, remain is a similar collection of people uniting under one cause as it is for leavers.
I don't believe the vast majority of people would have been that bothered either way a decade ago. Now it's the biggest issue in UK politics. I think it's a proxy battle but i'm not sure why. It could be a number of things. I have a theory but I think most would dismiss it out of hand and i'm not claiming it's definite info. I think it's progressive liberalism versus traditional values. Just think about it for a minute before dismissing it. Liberalism gains ground every year and seems to accelerate every year as well. I'm not saying that's a bad thing but I think it moves too fast for some people.
Just my theory. I'd be interested to hear from anyone who thinks they have a better theory. |  |
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| All these nutters and their death threats on 18:26 - Sep 27 with 2374 views | Trequartista |
Much bigger and Brexit is the excuse. The far right nutters are obviously using it as a vehicle for their own agenda, but normal people who voted Brexit as disillusionment from the mountain of pc directives they are forced to adopt. It started with the second term of the Blair government and fermented at the referendum. I'm making no judgement over whether the disillusionment is justified, I just feel it is a far greater force than any resentment about the EU. |  |
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| All these nutters and their death threats on 18:29 - Sep 27 with 2358 views | SpruceMoose |
| All these nutters and their death threats on 18:26 - Sep 27 by Trequartista |
Much bigger and Brexit is the excuse. The far right nutters are obviously using it as a vehicle for their own agenda, but normal people who voted Brexit as disillusionment from the mountain of pc directives they are forced to adopt. It started with the second term of the Blair government and fermented at the referendum. I'm making no judgement over whether the disillusionment is justified, I just feel it is a far greater force than any resentment about the EU. |
When you break down this 'mountain of pc directives' though, isn't it basically just being kind and respectful to people, and allowing others to live as freely as you yourself would like to live?
It's hardly some big burden to stop saying poof or tranny is it? [Post edited 27 Sep 2019 18:30]
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| All these nutters and their death threats on 18:38 - Sep 27 with 2333 views | Trequartista |
| All these nutters and their death threats on 18:29 - Sep 27 by SpruceMoose |
When you break down this 'mountain of pc directives' though, isn't it basically just being kind and respectful to people, and allowing others to live as freely as you yourself would like to live?
It's hardly some big burden to stop saying poof or tranny is it? [Post edited 27 Sep 2019 18:30]
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A lot of it is kindness and respect, of course. A lot is just telling people how to think. I think it is the "directive" part that people don't like. They are made to feel like criminals for saying things they don't really understand. It's just everywhere, BBC website right now, top line "OK hand symbol added to list of hate symbols". Whose list is this? Who decides this? | |
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| All these nutters and their death threats on 18:41 - Sep 27 with 2316 views | wkj |
| All these nutters and their death threats on 18:38 - Sep 27 by Trequartista |
A lot of it is kindness and respect, of course. A lot is just telling people how to think. I think it is the "directive" part that people don't like. They are made to feel like criminals for saying things they don't really understand. It's just everywhere, BBC website right now, top line "OK hand symbol added to list of hate symbols". Whose list is this? Who decides this? |
If you read the title it seems stupid. But there is quite a dark and unfortunate reason for it in the article itself. | |
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| All these nutters and their death threats on 18:46 - Sep 27 with 2304 views | Trequartista |
| All these nutters and their death threats on 18:41 - Sep 27 by wkj |
If you read the title it seems stupid. But there is quite a dark and unfortunate reason for it in the article itself. |
But in Britain that means "perfect". This is a great example actually. Are we going to prosecute people who give the "perfect" sign in this country? | |
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| All these nutters and their death threats on 18:46 - Sep 27 with 2305 views | SpruceMoose |
| All these nutters and their death threats on 18:38 - Sep 27 by Trequartista |
A lot of it is kindness and respect, of course. A lot is just telling people how to think. I think it is the "directive" part that people don't like. They are made to feel like criminals for saying things they don't really understand. It's just everywhere, BBC website right now, top line "OK hand symbol added to list of hate symbols". Whose list is this? Who decides this? |
It's right there in the article.
"The Anti-Defamation League started its "Hate on Display" list in 2000 with the aim of helping people recognise signs of extremism.
It now has over 200 entries, including the swastika and Ku Klux Klan's burning cross."
But nobody is going to be arrested over using it. It's not something that is enforced. It's one organisation adding it to a list of their making. It's nothing to flounce over. Certainly nothing to derail the country over.
You could make that gesture in any pub in the land and nobody will bat an eyelid.
The problem really is these people read a tabloid telling them to be outraged about something nobody really cares about, and they go away parroting it, winding other people up who like them are too lazy to bother to look into it any further. The reason the press does it is to distract them from what they should really be upset about.
People are rightfully angry and rightfully feel disenfranchised, but they've been trained into being angry at completely the wrong things. [Post edited 27 Sep 2019 18:47]
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| All these nutters and their death threats on 18:48 - Sep 27 with 2292 views | SpruceMoose |
| All these nutters and their death threats on 18:46 - Sep 27 by Trequartista |
But in Britain that means "perfect". This is a great example actually. Are we going to prosecute people who give the "perfect" sign in this country? |
This is the issue. Nowhere does it says anybody is being prosecuted. It's a list put together by a non-profit to provide guidance on what gestures and hand symbols are being used by hateful organisations.
People should read the damn article they're upset about, and stop presenting skewed versions that spread misconceptions. [Post edited 27 Sep 2019 18:50]
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| All these nutters and their death threats on 18:49 - Sep 27 with 2288 views | wkj |
| All these nutters and their death threats on 18:46 - Sep 27 by Trequartista |
But in Britain that means "perfect". This is a great example actually. Are we going to prosecute people who give the "perfect" sign in this country? |
Deep in the article they say people shouldn't assume everyone using it is using it as a hate symbol. The point of the action is to help clarify to people that it could be used for something sinister. I would imagine parents would find that handy to know | |
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