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All these teenage stabbings in london 08:41 - Oct 11 with 15612 viewsfergalsharkey

Drug gang tit for tat killings obviously but how do you deal with it?
I think the government should look at changing certain laws to loosen the restraints on what legally can be used as evidence against these vile little rodents.
2 more killed last night, and there is a school of thought which makes you think that if we back away then eventually they will all kill each other.
With the reduction in police numbers in the met maybe that is the grand plan.

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All these teenage stabbings in london on 20:01 - Oct 11 with 614 viewsjeera

All these teenage stabbings in london on 19:28 - Oct 11 by tractorboy1978

4 pages of thread and it is all focused on drugs. Not all gangs deal drugs and for those that do, often it is a means to an end - that end being tribal violence.

But talking about drugs is far easier than addressing underlying issues like lack of decent male models, broken homes, closures of youth clubs, deprivation of opportunities and educational issues (caused by cuts).

There are lots of males in this country seeking purpose, belonging and status and they have no legitimate ways of obtaining it so they end up seeking it in illegitimate ways.


This is true and you're right, drug selling isn't always the first choice of past time for a kid, but the coercement is there as others have pointed out and what follows isn't always a matter of choice.

Lack of opportunities; support, sufficient education, community values have all but disappeared in many areas. This is a national and local government issue.

Cuts in local services have been deemed necessary for austerity measures but the overall costs of ignoring the problem - and by doing so helping to cultivate - must surely outweigh short-term savings. That's if you want to be cold about it and consider finances alone, forgetting these are actually people we're talking about.
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All these teenage stabbings in london on 04:51 - Oct 12 with 529 viewsSpruceMoose

All these teenage stabbings in london on 12:25 - Oct 11 by chicoazul

Quite right, good to see you agree with me in principle on this.


Well that's quite worrying for me seeing as you're so intellectually deficient...

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All these teenage stabbings in london on 07:24 - Oct 12 with 502 viewstractorboy1978

All these teenage stabbings in london on 20:01 - Oct 11 by jeera

This is true and you're right, drug selling isn't always the first choice of past time for a kid, but the coercement is there as others have pointed out and what follows isn't always a matter of choice.

Lack of opportunities; support, sufficient education, community values have all but disappeared in many areas. This is a national and local government issue.

Cuts in local services have been deemed necessary for austerity measures but the overall costs of ignoring the problem - and by doing so helping to cultivate - must surely outweigh short-term savings. That's if you want to be cold about it and consider finances alone, forgetting these are actually people we're talking about.
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I think too many people are black and white about it - and the OP is an example of it. Society gets split into those that are 'wrong uns' and those that aren't. Nobody is born a drugs dealer, nobody is born wanting to be a member of a gang. All of these lads have had something or a number of things happen in their lives that push them down this route. You are never going to eradicate all of these societal issues that culminate in gang culture but as a country we have seriously regressed in dealing with/funding these issues in recent years.
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