Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison 15:20 - Oct 14 with 14778 views | The_Romford_Blue | Excellent news. Hope he suffered. ‘I had hit the jackpot. A 3 year old girl as loyal to me as my dog’. Evil c**t. Suspected that he sexually assaulted 200 kids. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50042406 | |
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 15:29 - Oct 14 with 4895 views | tractordownsouth | Sounds like an awful human being. However I do find it rather odd that murderers are seen as higher up the chain than paedophiles in prison, as if they have a right to some sort of moral high ground. | |
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 15:35 - Oct 14 with 4864 views | MattinLondon | I do agree that he is indeed evil I don’t share some of your sentiment. 1. Don’t lower yourself to saying this like it ‘I hope he suffered’ etc as that is a bit of a Daily Mail ‘tell-it-like-it-is’ thing to say. 2. Prisons are supposed to be places of punishment yet safe and spending what could be decades behind bars is far greater punishment than death. Life imprisonment should mean life and his crimes were truly horrific but celebrating death is wrong. | | | |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 15:41 - Oct 14 with 4824 views | itfcjoe |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 15:29 - Oct 14 by tractordownsouth | Sounds like an awful human being. However I do find it rather odd that murderers are seen as higher up the chain than paedophiles in prison, as if they have a right to some sort of moral high ground. |
This isn't meant to come across as a "you are too young to realise" post, but I think once you get to an age where you have children it becomes more understandable, especially when you look at the ages of the kids this guy abused - toddlers in some cases (if I have read correctly) I'm sure a child murderer is even below a paedo in the pecking order, but can see why a hierachy is applied to these things | |
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 15:42 - Oct 14 with 4805 views | J2BLUE |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 15:35 - Oct 14 by MattinLondon | I do agree that he is indeed evil I don’t share some of your sentiment. 1. Don’t lower yourself to saying this like it ‘I hope he suffered’ etc as that is a bit of a Daily Mail ‘tell-it-like-it-is’ thing to say. 2. Prisons are supposed to be places of punishment yet safe and spending what could be decades behind bars is far greater punishment than death. Life imprisonment should mean life and his crimes were truly horrific but celebrating death is wrong. |
He was the definition of oxygen thief. I don't care if I sound Daily Mail (as opposed to the other side of the coin, those terrified of being judged for a rather reasonable comment) but I won't lose any sleep over his death. He was truly evil. Trying to produce a document to guide people how to get away with child abuse is beyond words. He abused people over seven years. If he had a few minutes of terror as he bled out I won't be feeling too sympathetic. | |
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 15:43 - Oct 14 with 4787 views | factual_blue |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 15:35 - Oct 14 by MattinLondon | I do agree that he is indeed evil I don’t share some of your sentiment. 1. Don’t lower yourself to saying this like it ‘I hope he suffered’ etc as that is a bit of a Daily Mail ‘tell-it-like-it-is’ thing to say. 2. Prisons are supposed to be places of punishment yet safe and spending what could be decades behind bars is far greater punishment than death. Life imprisonment should mean life and his crimes were truly horrific but celebrating death is wrong. |
I don't accept the description of 'evil' for anybody, as it has the religious connotation of badness coming from some undefined, inexplicable source as though it is an infection. 'Evil' is also just lazy journalism. Everything can - at least in my opinion - be explained by an individual's upbringing and many other factors. We might not always like the answers, but we shouldn't sweep them away as 'uncomfortable' or 'difficult'. For example, from what I read, child abusers - both sexual and physical - were likely to have been abused themselves. | |
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 15:45 - Oct 14 with 4768 views | itfcjoe |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 15:42 - Oct 14 by J2BLUE | He was the definition of oxygen thief. I don't care if I sound Daily Mail (as opposed to the other side of the coin, those terrified of being judged for a rather reasonable comment) but I won't lose any sleep over his death. He was truly evil. Trying to produce a document to guide people how to get away with child abuse is beyond words. He abused people over seven years. If he had a few minutes of terror as he bled out I won't be feeling too sympathetic. |
How many deaths do you lose sleep over? I don't disagree with the general premise of your point btw | |
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 15:45 - Oct 14 with 4759 views | tractordownsouth |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 15:41 - Oct 14 by itfcjoe | This isn't meant to come across as a "you are too young to realise" post, but I think once you get to an age where you have children it becomes more understandable, especially when you look at the ages of the kids this guy abused - toddlers in some cases (if I have read correctly) I'm sure a child murderer is even below a paedo in the pecking order, but can see why a hierachy is applied to these things |
That’s fair. And yeah, child murderers are the lowest of the low in the prison system. | |
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 15:47 - Oct 14 with 4737 views | tractordownsouth |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 15:42 - Oct 14 by J2BLUE | He was the definition of oxygen thief. I don't care if I sound Daily Mail (as opposed to the other side of the coin, those terrified of being judged for a rather reasonable comment) but I won't lose any sleep over his death. He was truly evil. Trying to produce a document to guide people how to get away with child abuse is beyond words. He abused people over seven years. If he had a few minutes of terror as he bled out I won't be feeling too sympathetic. |
He’s an utter utter scumbag and for that I think being stabbed was an easy way out. Same reason as why I’m against the death penalty, a long prison sentence is far far worse in my view and the suffering is ended when that person dies. | |
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 15:47 - Oct 14 with 4735 views | J2BLUE |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 15:45 - Oct 14 by itfcjoe | How many deaths do you lose sleep over? I don't disagree with the general premise of your point btw |
An expression used without too much thought. Not many. | |
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 15:56 - Oct 14 with 4663 views | BiGDonnie |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 15:35 - Oct 14 by MattinLondon | I do agree that he is indeed evil I don’t share some of your sentiment. 1. Don’t lower yourself to saying this like it ‘I hope he suffered’ etc as that is a bit of a Daily Mail ‘tell-it-like-it-is’ thing to say. 2. Prisons are supposed to be places of punishment yet safe and spending what could be decades behind bars is far greater punishment than death. Life imprisonment should mean life and his crimes were truly horrific but celebrating death is wrong. |
Na F8ck him. I genuinely hope he was in a whole world of pain for as long as possible before he died. | |
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:00 - Oct 14 with 4616 views | Herbivore |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 15:42 - Oct 14 by J2BLUE | He was the definition of oxygen thief. I don't care if I sound Daily Mail (as opposed to the other side of the coin, those terrified of being judged for a rather reasonable comment) but I won't lose any sleep over his death. He was truly evil. Trying to produce a document to guide people how to get away with child abuse is beyond words. He abused people over seven years. If he had a few minutes of terror as he bled out I won't be feeling too sympathetic. |
I don't think the poster you're responding to is saying you should feel any sympathy. He's saying it shouldn't be celebrated, which is something quite different. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it either, nor do I feel any sympathy, but I'm not elated as I'm not sure the other inmates - who are likely also inside for pretty awful things if they are in the same prison as him - should be applauded for delivering some sort of justice. He'd have been better off being left to rot. | |
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:05 - Oct 14 with 4558 views | BlueBadger |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 15:29 - Oct 14 by tractordownsouth | Sounds like an awful human being. However I do find it rather odd that murderers are seen as higher up the chain than paedophiles in prison, as if they have a right to some sort of moral high ground. |
In all fairness, prisons are probably not the sort of place you can expect to find clear moral thinking. | |
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:07 - Oct 14 with 4556 views | Swansea_Blue |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 15:35 - Oct 14 by MattinLondon | I do agree that he is indeed evil I don’t share some of your sentiment. 1. Don’t lower yourself to saying this like it ‘I hope he suffered’ etc as that is a bit of a Daily Mail ‘tell-it-like-it-is’ thing to say. 2. Prisons are supposed to be places of punishment yet safe and spending what could be decades behind bars is far greater punishment than death. Life imprisonment should mean life and his crimes were truly horrific but celebrating death is wrong. |
Yep. First thing I thought of when seeing the headline is that prisons should be safe, even if there are some vile people in them. The example here is simply lawlessness, and I'm not sure it's in our interests to start celebrating that. He won't be missed, but that isn't the point. [Post edited 14 Oct 2019 16:10]
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:18 - Oct 14 with 4500 views | monytowbray | The controversial thing with child sex offenders is yes, it's sick and twisted, but also it's a mental illness. No one decides if they're straight, gay, bi, pan or whatever they are in between. I also imagine no paedophile wakes up one morning and decides on their own merit kids are their sexual preference because they feel like it. Granted there's a difference in case when it comes to acting on it or being a straight up sick f*ck (much like any case of rape) but the root cause that leads someone there isn't a choice. The question is, what the hell do you do about it? I don't believe it's possible to change someone's sexual preference. [Post edited 14 Oct 2019 16:19]
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:19 - Oct 14 with 4469 views | chicoazul |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 15:35 - Oct 14 by MattinLondon | I do agree that he is indeed evil I don’t share some of your sentiment. 1. Don’t lower yourself to saying this like it ‘I hope he suffered’ etc as that is a bit of a Daily Mail ‘tell-it-like-it-is’ thing to say. 2. Prisons are supposed to be places of punishment yet safe and spending what could be decades behind bars is far greater punishment than death. Life imprisonment should mean life and his crimes were truly horrific but celebrating death is wrong. |
A very modest celebration at the death of a bad nonce is not wrong. | |
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:20 - Oct 14 with 4448 views | chicoazul |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:18 - Oct 14 by monytowbray | The controversial thing with child sex offenders is yes, it's sick and twisted, but also it's a mental illness. No one decides if they're straight, gay, bi, pan or whatever they are in between. I also imagine no paedophile wakes up one morning and decides on their own merit kids are their sexual preference because they feel like it. Granted there's a difference in case when it comes to acting on it or being a straight up sick f*ck (much like any case of rape) but the root cause that leads someone there isn't a choice. The question is, what the hell do you do about it? I don't believe it's possible to change someone's sexual preference. [Post edited 14 Oct 2019 16:19]
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My friend did you just conflate being gay with being a paedophile? | |
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:22 - Oct 14 with 4423 views | monytowbray |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:20 - Oct 14 by chicoazul | My friend did you just conflate being gay with being a paedophile? |
Nope. | |
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:22 - Oct 14 with 4415 views | chicoazul |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:22 - Oct 14 by monytowbray | Nope. |
No one decides if they're straight, gay, bi, pan or whatever they are in between I believe you did. | |
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:23 - Oct 14 with 4393 views | monytowbray |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:22 - Oct 14 by chicoazul | No one decides if they're straight, gay, bi, pan or whatever they are in between I believe you did. |
I also compared being straight to being a paedophile. The hint is in the line you literally just quoted. It was a comment on the choice of sexual preference. Nice try rallying an outrage but no cigar. | |
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:25 - Oct 14 with 4380 views | chicoazul |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:23 - Oct 14 by monytowbray | I also compared being straight to being a paedophile. The hint is in the line you literally just quoted. It was a comment on the choice of sexual preference. Nice try rallying an outrage but no cigar. |
So if you "also compared being straight" with being a paedophile, you admit you compared being gay with being a paedophile too. You may want to choose your words more carefully is all I say. [Post edited 14 Oct 2019 16:25]
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:26 - Oct 14 with 4367 views | itfcjoe |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:18 - Oct 14 by monytowbray | The controversial thing with child sex offenders is yes, it's sick and twisted, but also it's a mental illness. No one decides if they're straight, gay, bi, pan or whatever they are in between. I also imagine no paedophile wakes up one morning and decides on their own merit kids are their sexual preference because they feel like it. Granted there's a difference in case when it comes to acting on it or being a straight up sick f*ck (much like any case of rape) but the root cause that leads someone there isn't a choice. The question is, what the hell do you do about it? I don't believe it's possible to change someone's sexual preference. [Post edited 14 Oct 2019 16:19]
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I've heard a podcast about someone with it, nothing is healthy with it but repression or effectively castration in reality. There is never going to be a way to square it and make yourself mentally ok with it, and unlike homosexuality when it was illegal, this is illegal because it involves people who aren't able to give consent and have to be abused for it to be acted upon | |
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:26 - Oct 14 with 4363 views | monytowbray |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:25 - Oct 14 by chicoazul | So if you "also compared being straight" with being a paedophile, you admit you compared being gay with being a paedophile too. You may want to choose your words more carefully is all I say. [Post edited 14 Oct 2019 16:25]
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And I think you may want to go back to telling people their parents are rubbish. The hoops you are jumping through to dig this point in are non-existent. [Post edited 14 Oct 2019 16:37]
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:26 - Oct 14 with 4361 views | J2BLUE |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:18 - Oct 14 by monytowbray | The controversial thing with child sex offenders is yes, it's sick and twisted, but also it's a mental illness. No one decides if they're straight, gay, bi, pan or whatever they are in between. I also imagine no paedophile wakes up one morning and decides on their own merit kids are their sexual preference because they feel like it. Granted there's a difference in case when it comes to acting on it or being a straight up sick f*ck (much like any case of rape) but the root cause that leads someone there isn't a choice. The question is, what the hell do you do about it? I don't believe it's possible to change someone's sexual preference. [Post edited 14 Oct 2019 16:19]
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What relevance does that have here? He abused kids over seven years, awarded himself 'Pedopoints' based on his actions and was writing a guide about how to get away with the abuse. There's no straight, gay, bi etc equivalent to those actions. Maybe some con has just awarded himself 25 Stabbypoints. | |
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:27 - Oct 14 with 4340 views | SouperJim |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:25 - Oct 14 by chicoazul | So if you "also compared being straight" with being a paedophile, you admit you compared being gay with being a paedophile too. You may want to choose your words more carefully is all I say. [Post edited 14 Oct 2019 16:25]
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Paedophilia is a sexuality. You're looking for offence where there clearly is none. I understood his post perfectly, he's saying you don't choose your sexuality. | |
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Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:28 - Oct 14 with 4327 views | monytowbray |
Britain’s worst paedophile found stabbed to death in prison on 16:26 - Oct 14 by itfcjoe | I've heard a podcast about someone with it, nothing is healthy with it but repression or effectively castration in reality. There is never going to be a way to square it and make yourself mentally ok with it, and unlike homosexuality when it was illegal, this is illegal because it involves people who aren't able to give consent and have to be abused for it to be acted upon |
That's the main thing really, consent. A child can't give it. Plus the emotional trauma it causes for the rest of a child's life being exposed to such things at an age when they're not even fully aware what is going on is awful. I know a few people who have been victims of such abuse and it's not a nice thing. | |
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