| Still not supported by the DUP on 12:03 - Oct 17 with 3156 views | itfcjoe |
| Still not supported by the DUP on 12:00 - Oct 17 by lowhouseblue |
"No 10 source says Johnson will ask leaders to rule out a further delay - he’s expected to ask them to make clear it’s ‘the new deal or no deal but no delays’ he will tell EU leaders" |
With the Benn amendment he can't push that through though, fortunately |  |
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| Still not supported by the DUP on 12:04 - Oct 17 with 3154 views | homer_123 |
| Still not supported by the DUP on 12:03 - Oct 17 by itfcjoe |
With the Benn amendment he can't push that through though, fortunately |
Genuine question then - with No Deal off the table what is the inventive to vote for this deal (or any deal)? |  |
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| Still not supported by the DUP on 12:05 - Oct 17 with 3144 views | lowhouseblue |
| Still not supported by the DUP on 12:03 - Oct 17 by itfcjoe |
With the Benn amendment he can't push that through though, fortunately |
benn act doesn't stop him asking what he wants now, just means he has to send a letter after the 19th. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Still not supported by the DUP on 12:06 - Oct 17 with 3144 views | Herbivore |
| Still not supported by the DUP on 12:04 - Oct 17 by homer_123 |
Genuine question then - with No Deal off the table what is the inventive to vote for this deal (or any deal)? |
There needs to be a resolution at some point and I think MPs increasingly see that. That's why the idea of Labour supporting the deal with a referendum attached is now a very live possibility. It pushes us towards an end point as far as Brexit is concerned. |  |
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| Brexit deal is DONE! on 12:07 - Oct 17 with 3131 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Brexit deal is DONE! on 11:57 - Oct 17 by Bluefish |
Please can you let me know of a benefit of leaving? |
Fewer political threads on here while peace and harmony sweeps the nation again. |  |
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| Still not supported by the DUP on 12:07 - Oct 17 with 3130 views | homer_123 |
| Still not supported by the DUP on 12:02 - Oct 17 by Herbivore |
Things have moved along. I don't like to give any credit to Johnson but he has found a way to amend the backstop and to give NI a say on continuing alignment with the EU. May could also easily have negotiated something similar but she and many others ruled out having a border in the Irish Sea. It seems now some people have shifted and will accept that, though not the DUP currently. It's arguable whether this is a better deal than what was on the table, I'd say not but it is probably more palatable to the ERG than May's deal was. |
If it's yesterdays deal then it's certainly not better than Mays.
Some movement of things from legal to political declarations might be enough for the ERG but the DUP appear less convinced - still tough to see how this goes through. | |
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| Still not supported by the DUP on 12:07 - Oct 17 with 3129 views | itfcjoe |
| Still not supported by the DUP on 12:04 - Oct 17 by homer_123 |
Genuine question then - with No Deal off the table what is the inventive to vote for this deal (or any deal)? |
Maybe at some point the Tory party will realise that they need to start again and look to get a deal that appeases the majority of MPs in the middle rather than try and appease the ERG and the DUP.
They didn't think they could get a deal through with their majority so went back to the people, and their majority became much smaller (including the DUP), they now don't have a majority at all and are still trying to appease those who cannot be appeased.
Time to start again and negotiate a deal that picks up 50 MPS from the Labour party or others rather than keep going after the Brexiteers which just alienates those from the centre of politics. | |
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| Still not supported by the DUP on 12:07 - Oct 17 with 3124 views | lowhouseblue |
| Still not supported by the DUP on 12:06 - Oct 17 by Herbivore |
There needs to be a resolution at some point and I think MPs increasingly see that. That's why the idea of Labour supporting the deal with a referendum attached is now a very live possibility. It pushes us towards an end point as far as Brexit is concerned. |
from bbc:
Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn says he does not believe the Parliamentary session being held on Saturday will present a chance to push the offer of a second referendum through the Commons.
A few Labour MPs have said this morning that they would only back Boris Johnson's deal if an amendment was made to take the agreement to the British public, through a "confirmatory referendum".
"It won't come up on Saturday, I suspect," Mr Corbyn says.
He described reports that Labour could back such a vote as "high-level speculation on a hypothetical question". | |
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| Still not supported by the DUP on 12:08 - Oct 17 with 3118 views | homer_123 |
| Still not supported by the DUP on 12:06 - Oct 17 by Herbivore |
There needs to be a resolution at some point and I think MPs increasingly see that. That's why the idea of Labour supporting the deal with a referendum attached is now a very live possibility. It pushes us towards an end point as far as Brexit is concerned. |
There certainly does need to be a resolution. But the fact that we end up with a worse deal than Mays because 'it's dragging on a bit' is touch amusing to say the least.
Can't see this getting through with a ref attached though. | |
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| Brexit deal is DONE! on 12:10 - Oct 17 with 3100 views | vilanovablue |
New deal that is worse than the old deal. Boris can now wave his deal about and say it's not my fault look over there they won't support my deal.
He now has a tool to blame other people the ultimate in whataboutery... |  | | |
| Still not supported by the DUP on 12:11 - Oct 17 with 3084 views | wkj |
| Still not supported by the DUP on 12:06 - Oct 17 by Herbivore |
There needs to be a resolution at some point and I think MPs increasingly see that. That's why the idea of Labour supporting the deal with a referendum attached is now a very live possibility. It pushes us towards an end point as far as Brexit is concerned. |
Quite possibly, and rightly so. I didn't like the first referendum as I really didn't like the level of clarity on both sides of the coin, and voted for a devil you know sort of option. If there is a clear deal to vote on it is much better than the gutter guff the pro leave and pro remain groups were saying could happen.
One thing for sure, a second referendum would likely show a much greater majority for one way or the other, probably leave in all honesty as the "i don't care, just get it over with" factor would be in full swing. |  |
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| Still not supported by the DUP on 12:14 - Oct 17 with 3073 views | Herbivore |
| Still not supported by the DUP on 12:08 - Oct 17 by homer_123 |
There certainly does need to be a resolution. But the fact that we end up with a worse deal than Mays because 'it's dragging on a bit' is touch amusing to say the least.
Can't see this getting through with a ref attached though. |
I think it's more likely to get through with a second referendum than without. | |
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| Brexit deal is DONE! on 12:14 - Oct 17 with 3072 views | EastTownBlue |
| Brexit deal is DONE! on 11:57 - Oct 17 by Bluefish |
Please can you let me know of a benefit of leaving? |
Are you anticipating a response other than "taking back control" ? |  | | |
| Brexit deal is DONE! on 12:14 - Oct 17 with 3065 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Brexit deal is DONE! on 12:07 - Oct 17 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Fewer political threads on here while peace and harmony sweeps the nation again. |
Except for Herbivore ! Chillax that down voty finger of yours | |
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| Still not supported by the DUP on 12:15 - Oct 17 with 3060 views | wkj |
| Still not supported by the DUP on 12:14 - Oct 17 by Herbivore |
I think it's more likely to get through with a second referendum than without. |
Exactly | |
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| Brexit deal is DONE! on 12:17 - Oct 17 with 3053 views | ZedRodgers |
"Brexit deal is done" is a terrible take.
jjblue84 - A few months ago you were countenancing no deal based on what May attempted to bring back. This deal appears to be even softer with many more concessions given to the EU. Why are you celebrating? |  |
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| Brexit deal is DONE! on 12:18 - Oct 17 with 3029 views | wkj |
| Brexit deal is DONE! on 12:17 - Oct 17 by ZedRodgers |
"Brexit deal is done" is a terrible take.
jjblue84 - A few months ago you were countenancing no deal based on what May attempted to bring back. This deal appears to be even softer with many more concessions given to the EU. Why are you celebrating? |
He does like to get a rise does the ol' Pickles Lite. | |
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| Brexit deal is DONE! on 12:20 - Oct 17 with 3017 views | WeWereZombies |
| Brexit deal is DONE! on 12:10 - Oct 17 by vilanovablue |
New deal that is worse than the old deal. Boris can now wave his deal about and say it's not my fault look over there they won't support my deal.
He now has a tool to blame other people the ultimate in whataboutery... |
And the DUP can back to their constituents can say 'look, we never agreed to this Customs Union but Westminster has voted in favour so we have to go along with it'.
So much now is all about not losing face, we might as well be ruled by President Xi... |  |
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| Brexit deal is DONE! on 12:28 - Oct 17 with 2982 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Brexit deal is DONE! on 12:14 - Oct 17 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Except for Herbivore ! Chillax that down voty finger of yours |
Suspect he will be a prolific poster post brexit as there presumably will be General Election in the offing.. |  |
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| Brexit deal is DONE! on 12:30 - Oct 17 with 2976 views | jjblue84 |
| Brexit deal is DONE! on 11:42 - Oct 17 by Swansea_Blue |
I'm assuming the OP is just trolling. Otherwise it shows a complete lack of understanding about the fact that we've had a 'deal' with the EU for the last 11 months. |
For the slow to catch on, and the deniers...
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| Brexit deal is DONE! on 12:32 - Oct 17 with 2967 views | wkj |
| Brexit deal is DONE! on 12:30 - Oct 17 by jjblue84 |
For the slow to catch on, and the deniers...
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You've actually just linked something that us so called deniers have been saying since the beginning of this post. | |
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| Brexit deal is DONE! on 12:54 - Oct 17 with 2914 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Brexit deal is DONE! on 12:32 - Oct 17 by wkj |
You've actually just linked something that us so called deniers have been saying since the beginning of this post. |
Great isn't it? Absolutely barmy. |  |
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| Brexit deal is DONE! on 12:54 - Oct 17 with 2914 views | Herbivore |
| Brexit deal is DONE! on 12:30 - Oct 17 by jjblue84 |
For the slow to catch on, and the deniers...
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Are you mentally deficient or something? | |
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| Brexit deal is DONE! on 12:54 - Oct 17 with 2914 views | itfcjoe |
| Brexit deal is DONE! on 12:30 - Oct 17 by jjblue84 |
For the slow to catch on, and the deniers...
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*Facepalm* | |
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