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So how about this, then? 13:15 - Oct 18 with 1291 viewsfactual_blue

A shop in Bury St Edmunds sells vegan dental floss.

No, your eyes don't deceive you. Vegan. Dental. Floss.*








*Apparently ordinary dental floss contains beeswax and/or silk, both of which represent the unacceptable exploitation of animals.

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So how about this, then? on 13:15 - Oct 18 with 1019 viewsBlueBadger

Cotton reels then?

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So how about this, then? on 13:16 - Oct 18 with 1015 viewscallis

Well yeah, vegan products tend to not contain products derived from animal bodies or their labour. What did you think vegan dental floss would contain? Beef drippings?!

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So how about this, then? on 13:18 - Oct 18 with 1004 viewsFtnfwest

So how about this, then? on 13:16 - Oct 18 by callis

Well yeah, vegan products tend to not contain products derived from animal bodies or their labour. What did you think vegan dental floss would contain? Beef drippings?!


Oh crikey, you've hit on a great idea there. Must be a niche in the market for this
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So how about this, then? on 13:19 - Oct 18 with 992 viewsfactual_blue

So how about this, then? on 13:15 - Oct 18 by BlueBadger

Cotton reels then?


24 reels of vegan dental floss - about £96 (roughly £4 a reel)
24 reels of cotton thread - about £5.

#youdothemath

#vegans=mugsforcapitalists

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So how about this, then? on 13:21 - Oct 18 with 988 viewsfactual_blue

So how about this, then? on 13:16 - Oct 18 by callis

Well yeah, vegan products tend to not contain products derived from animal bodies or their labour. What did you think vegan dental floss would contain? Beef drippings?!


I, along with vegan Sarah Pascoe, assumed veganism was about 'a bit of dinner'.



(Sarah Pascoe was kicked out of the Vegan Society for not being sufficiently hardcore)

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So how about this, then? on 13:22 - Oct 18 with 982 viewscallis

So how about this, then? on 13:21 - Oct 18 by factual_blue

I, along with vegan Sarah Pascoe, assumed veganism was about 'a bit of dinner'.



(Sarah Pascoe was kicked out of the Vegan Society for not being sufficiently hardcore)


Veganism is about rejecting animal products on the whole.

Then again Sparks once said I'm not a real vegan because I rehomed a cat so might as well go bath in the blood of a thousand dead cows now.

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So how about this, then? on 13:28 - Oct 18 with 955 viewsJohnny_Boy

So how about this, then? on 13:22 - Oct 18 by callis

Veganism is about rejecting animal products on the whole.

Then again Sparks once said I'm not a real vegan because I rehomed a cat so might as well go bath in the blood of a thousand dead cows now.


I trust you’ve stopped eating Haribo.
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So how about this, then? on 13:28 - Oct 18 with 960 viewsfactual_blue

So how about this, then? on 13:18 - Oct 18 by Ftnfwest

Oh crikey, you've hit on a great idea there. Must be a niche in the market for this





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So how about this, then? on 14:26 - Oct 18 with 880 viewsSwansea_Blue

So how about this, then? on 13:16 - Oct 18 by callis

Well yeah, vegan products tend to not contain products derived from animal bodies or their labour. What did you think vegan dental floss would contain? Beef drippings?!


Isn't worrying about the labour efforts of bees a bit excessive? There's a reason the saying is 'as busy as a bee'.

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So how about this, then? on 14:48 - Oct 18 with 823 viewscallis

So how about this, then? on 13:28 - Oct 18 by Johnny_Boy

I trust you’ve stopped eating Haribo.


Yep. And w@nking onto dolphins.

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So how about this, then? on 14:50 - Oct 18 with 819 viewscallis

So how about this, then? on 14:26 - Oct 18 by Swansea_Blue

Isn't worrying about the labour efforts of bees a bit excessive? There's a reason the saying is 'as busy as a bee'.


I think honey and beeswax fits under the umbrella of veganism yes. It's debated amongst the vegan community but I'd say it's just an extra two products to give up. Beyond having the flu and Crunchy Nut Cornflakes I can't think of much I ate that had honey in it.

A lot of sweets would be vegan if not for the beeswax though, which annoys me. Haribo jelly beans are a good example.

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So how about this, then? on 14:55 - Oct 18 with 808 viewsRyorry

So how about this, then? on 14:50 - Oct 18 by callis

I think honey and beeswax fits under the umbrella of veganism yes. It's debated amongst the vegan community but I'd say it's just an extra two products to give up. Beyond having the flu and Crunchy Nut Cornflakes I can't think of much I ate that had honey in it.

A lot of sweets would be vegan if not for the beeswax though, which annoys me. Haribo jelly beans are a good example.


Bees are only kept (and in a natural kind of way) for very good reasons though, particularly to pollinate all your lovely veggies and grains. Honey and beeswax are only by-products, so surely could be given exemptions?

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So how about this, then? on 15:01 - Oct 18 with 794 viewscallis

So how about this, then? on 14:55 - Oct 18 by Ryorry

Bees are only kept (and in a natural kind of way) for very good reasons though, particularly to pollinate all your lovely veggies and grains. Honey and beeswax are only by-products, so surely could be given exemptions?


Honey and beeswax are used by bees, they're far from byproducts.

https://dylankendall.com/blogs/dylan-kendall-blog/to-bee-or-not-to-bee-the-truth

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So how about this, then? on 15:02 - Oct 18 with 794 viewsSikamikanico

I must admit to being a fan of some vegan beer. Yes its cloudy but the lack of finings means well made beer retains a lot of flavour.
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So how about this, then? on 15:02 - Oct 18 with 788 viewsDyland

So how about this, then? on 14:48 - Oct 18 by callis

Yep. And w@nking onto dolphins.


Can you eat oysters?

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So how about this, then? on 15:03 - Oct 18 with 783 viewsfactual_blue

So how about this, then? on 14:55 - Oct 18 by Ryorry

Bees are only kept (and in a natural kind of way) for very good reasons though, particularly to pollinate all your lovely veggies and grains. Honey and beeswax are only by-products, so surely could be given exemptions?


But then there are the 'enslaved' bee populations transported around in lorries to pollinate avocados ....

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So how about this, then? on 15:06 - Oct 18 with 774 viewsHalf_Idiot

So how about this, then? on 15:01 - Oct 18 by callis

Honey and beeswax are used by bees, they're far from byproducts.

https://dylankendall.com/blogs/dylan-kendall-blog/to-bee-or-not-to-bee-the-truth


What about the fruit and veg at farms that are pollinated by the bees that are driven around in the back of trucks? Is that not unnatural and cruel to them?
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So how about this, then? on 15:07 - Oct 18 with 769 viewscallis

So how about this, then? on 15:03 - Oct 18 by factual_blue

But then there are the 'enslaved' bee populations transported around in lorries to pollinate avocados ....


I believe that's only practised in the USA.

Is keeping a bee to do what it does naturally and not stealing from the bee slavery?

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So how about this, then? on 15:17 - Oct 18 with 736 viewsSwansea_Blue

So how about this, then? on 15:07 - Oct 18 by callis

I believe that's only practised in the USA.

Is keeping a bee to do what it does naturally and not stealing from the bee slavery?


Define 'free'

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So how about this, then? on 15:26 - Oct 18 with 727 viewsfactual_blue

So how about this, then? on 15:07 - Oct 18 by callis

I believe that's only practised in the USA.

Is keeping a bee to do what it does naturally and not stealing from the bee slavery?


The inference from that is there is no such thing as slavery at all; even human-on-human slavery becomes a myth.

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So how about this, then? on 15:28 - Oct 18 with 727 viewsfactual_blue

So how about this, then? on 15:17 - Oct 18 by Swansea_Blue

Define 'free'


In America, every man is free
To take care of his home and his family
You'll be as happy as a monkey in a monkey tree
Ya'll going to be an American

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We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay....
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So how about this, then? on 15:32 - Oct 18 with 714 viewscallis

So how about this, then? on 15:26 - Oct 18 by factual_blue

The inference from that is there is no such thing as slavery at all; even human-on-human slavery becomes a myth.


I don't know really. I don't really eat avocados and it's not something practised in the UK to my knowledge. It's also something there's very limited knowledge on in terms of how wide practised it is and who's doing it.

It's also one of those things that I'm happy to debate with other vegans, but when it's raised by meat eaters as a whateraboutery question it becomes more like a stick to beat with as opposed to a logical point being made because the care of animals is a concern for them.

Not to say that's what you're doing of course, but being vegan is a journey to more ethical living and is constantly progressing, it's not a final solution with all the answers.

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So how about this, then? on 16:04 - Oct 18 with 676 viewsfactual_blue

So how about this, then? on 15:28 - Oct 18 by factual_blue

In America, every man is free
To take care of his home and his family
You'll be as happy as a monkey in a monkey tree
Ya'll going to be an American

Sail away, sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay....
[Post edited 18 Oct 15:31]


Glad to see somebody appreciates good lyrics, even if Gav prevents me from posting the unadulterated first verse...

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So how about this, then? on 16:07 - Oct 18 with 671 viewsSwansea_Blue

So how about this, then? on 16:04 - Oct 18 by factual_blue

Glad to see somebody appreciates good lyrics, even if Gav prevents me from posting the unadulterated first verse...


Love a bit of Enya


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So how about this, then? on 16:42 - Oct 18 with 624 viewsRyorry

So how about this, then? on 15:06 - Oct 18 by Half_Idiot

What about the fruit and veg at farms that are pollinated by the bees that are driven around in the back of trucks? Is that not unnatural and cruel to them?


You have a choice re veg, honey and beeswax, as with most other things.

Plenty of organic farmers & growers all over the UK (I believe BTR is one). Also many unenslaved bees in hives, esp round here, where it's frequently produced by individuals with private hives who have a mutually beneficial agreement with local farmers to place the hives on their land, on or next to local heather moors.

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