| Controversial post alert 22:16 - Oct 23 with 15533 views | artsbossbeard |
So, apart from having a much bigger squad, support from the owner and playing in a pub league, is there much difference in style from the mick days? Genuine question.
Let's hope lambo doesn't say a rudey.
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| Controversial post alert on 22:17 - Oct 23 with 7869 views | MrTown |
Absolutely said the same to my old man after the game.
That tonight was worse than the Mick days. |  |
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| Controversial post alert on 22:26 - Oct 23 with 7773 views | backwaywhen |
| Controversial post alert on 22:17 - Oct 23 by MrTown |
Absolutely said the same to my old man after the game.
That tonight was worse than the Mick days. |
A high ball is a lost ball against giants at the back ..... so what do we do ... lump it high until Spurs lad come on .... very naive. |  | | |
| Controversial post alert on 22:26 - Oct 23 with 7771 views | judespiveyg |
I actually thought Rotherham were more like a McCarthy side, very direct, organised, big, and relatively effective, but not much to watch.
I'm not convinced we ever had 60% possession under McCarthy. I think the players are there to play nice stuff (we've seen it on occasion) they've just been set up wrong, we've had very little width the last couple of games and I'm not convinced wing-backs are the way to go. |  |
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| Controversial post alert on 22:27 - Oct 23 with 7739 views | pointofblue |
| Controversial post alert on 22:17 - Oct 23 by MrTown |
Absolutely said the same to my old man after the game.
That tonight was worse than the Mick days. |
I agree - at least we were playing better opposition when we were trying this under Mick.
The concern isn't the off night, though, as that can happen to every team. But it's now two in a row with a team wanting to fight for a new manager coming up next. | |
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| Controversial post alert on 22:28 - Oct 23 with 7718 views | Moriarty |
I think a big difference is that Mick knew what he was doing. |  |
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| Controversial post alert on 23:05 - Oct 23 with 7571 views | Sarge |
Yes. | | | |
| Controversial post alert on 07:35 - Oct 24 with 7311 views | itfcjoe |
2 shots on target - Huws after 2 minutes and the follow up header from Keane.
1 shot off target - Skuse’s header from a corner which went harmlessly wise with about 5 mins to go.
So far from being good enough, and a massive concern at how bad we were, and that started in midfield. Changed formation 3 times and nothing worked - out thought in the dugout and out fought on the pitch |  |
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| Controversial post alert on 07:44 - Oct 24 with 7273 views | textbackup |
| Controversial post alert on 07:35 - Oct 24 by itfcjoe |
2 shots on target - Huws after 2 minutes and the follow up header from Keane.
1 shot off target - Skuse’s header from a corner which went harmlessly wise with about 5 mins to go.
So far from being good enough, and a massive concern at how bad we were, and that started in midfield. Changed formation 3 times and nothing worked - out thought in the dugout and out fought on the pitch |
We massively miss Norwood presence on the pitch, he unsettles the entire backline and has them on edge
We massively miss Downes in the midfield. Them two are so important for us.
I’m not sure how much longer a can watch Edwards play for us, just about one of the most pointless piss weak stupid players I can recall us having.
Kills me not seeing Wolf in a starting line up, he’s our best CB |  |
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| Controversial post alert on 07:47 - Oct 24 with 7269 views | Keaneish |
Would we have ever put a 26 pass move together to score a goal under Mick? Tonight was a shambles but let's not draw parallels with Mick's turgid last few years on the back of a bad week.
Saying that, Chambers and Wilson were woeful tonight and all too quick to launch it. I'm all for mixing it up but not that shower they served up tonight.
PL's got it wrong two games in a row. Mick got it wrong two seasons in a row. Some perspective needed i think. |  |
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| Controversial post alert on 09:05 - Oct 24 with 7103 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Come on ..be fair... Lambo says nice things, does nice things - and even grits his teeth and gets involved with olde players. That was all that was needed to bring people flocking back. To quibble about dire play, constant rotation and poor performances in a lower division is bizarre when the constant rotation, dire play and poor performances were lauded in a higher division. | |
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| Controversial post alert on 09:10 - Oct 24 with 7078 views | haynes_toe1 |
No, the style of play is pretty much the same.
Someone above said under Mick he doubts we ever had 60% possession - I reckon in this dour league with our squad he would have. | | | |
| Controversial post alert on 09:16 - Oct 24 with 7053 views | BigManBlue |
We're hardly Barcelona are we? I like Lambert and appreciate what he's done for the club when thinking about it holistically, but anyone who thinks the football is more than 5-10% easier on the eye is, I think, probably not being honest with themselves. |  |
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| Controversial post alert on 10:20 - Oct 24 with 6933 views | Keaneish |
| Controversial post alert on 09:10 - Oct 24 by haynes_toe1 |
No, the style of play is pretty much the same.
Someone above said under Mick he doubts we ever had 60% possession - I reckon in this dour league with our squad he would have. |
Unlikely [Post edited 24 Oct 2019 10:20]
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| Controversial post alert on 10:32 - Oct 24 with 6889 views | haynes_toe1 |
| Controversial post alert on 10:20 - Oct 24 by Keaneish |
Unlikely [Post edited 24 Oct 2019 10:20]
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Baring in mind during Micks last season we had 60% possession against Birmingham, Leeds and Millwall via a 2 minute check then yes, I reckon he would have managed to do similar against fking Accrington | | | |
| Controversial post alert on 10:42 - Oct 24 with 6854 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Controversial post alert on 10:32 - Oct 24 by haynes_toe1 |
Baring in mind during Micks last season we had 60% possession against Birmingham, Leeds and Millwall via a 2 minute check then yes, I reckon he would have managed to do similar against fking Accrington |
You’re talking to someone who thinks a top half finish in the Championship is worse than being in League One |  |
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| Controversial post alert on 10:43 - Oct 24 with 6851 views | Keaneish |
| Controversial post alert on 10:32 - Oct 24 by haynes_toe1 |
Baring in mind during Micks last season we had 60% possession against Birmingham, Leeds and Millwall via a 2 minute check then yes, I reckon he would have managed to do similar against fking Accrington |
Really? The last 6 games of McCarthy's reign in 17/18....
Brentford - 44%
Barnsley - 55%
Nottingham Forest - 42%
Villa - 34%
Reading - 37%
Boro - 38%
Give me PL's football over the drudgery of McCarthy any day. | |
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| Controversial post alert on 10:45 - Oct 24 with 6834 views | footers |
| Controversial post alert on 10:43 - Oct 24 by Keaneish |
Really? The last 6 games of McCarthy's reign in 17/18....
Brentford - 44%
Barnsley - 55%
Nottingham Forest - 42%
Villa - 34%
Reading - 37%
Boro - 38%
Give me PL's football over the drudgery of McCarthy any day. |
Generous calling last night football. |  |
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| Controversial post alert on 10:49 - Oct 24 with 6801 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Controversial post alert on 10:43 - Oct 24 by Keaneish |
Really? The last 6 games of McCarthy's reign in 17/18....
Brentford - 44%
Barnsley - 55%
Nottingham Forest - 42%
Villa - 34%
Reading - 37%
Boro - 38%
Give me PL's football over the drudgery of McCarthy any day. |
McCarthy wasn’t the manager for 4 of those games | |
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| Controversial post alert on 10:55 - Oct 24 with 6769 views | itfcjoe |
| Controversial post alert on 10:43 - Oct 24 by Keaneish |
Really? The last 6 games of McCarthy's reign in 17/18....
Brentford - 44%
Barnsley - 55%
Nottingham Forest - 42%
Villa - 34%
Reading - 37%
Boro - 38%
Give me PL's football over the drudgery of McCarthy any day. |
The last 4 games were under Klug, one of which we won 4-0 despite having less than 40% possession
Possession is often dictated by goals, if you are ahead then you have less, and when behind you have more - often when teams get stuffed they have had more possession | |
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| Controversial post alert on 10:55 - Oct 24 with 6765 views | Keaneish |
| Controversial post alert on 10:49 - Oct 24 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
McCarthy wasn’t the manager for 4 of those games |
Fair point. Previous 6 were....
Millwall - 57%
Birmingham - 65%
Bristol City - 46%
Hull City - 61%
Sheff Utd - 45%
Sheff Wed - 41% | |
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| Controversial post alert on 12:15 - Oct 24 with 6648 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Controversial post alert on 10:55 - Oct 24 by Keaneish |
Fair point. Previous 6 were....
Millwall - 57%
Birmingham - 65%
Bristol City - 46%
Hull City - 61%
Sheff Utd - 45%
Sheff Wed - 41% |
Which rather belies the idea that we would never have had 60% possession under McCarthy doesn’t it?
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| Controversial post alert on 16:45 - Oct 24 with 6469 views | Mullet |
Mick never produced football this bad, mainly because he never got us relegated. However, I wonder if we are going to revisit those games where he won with almost 100% shot accuracy, but obviously didn't deserve to, cos errr well reasons.
There's nothing stopping Lambert emulating Mick here, but the whole club has gone so far backwards thanks to Hurst and Evans, he is still a long way off.
Being outplayed by Newcastle at their place is one thing, but having no outlets, no service and no organisation across the whole XI to Rotherham who have been weakened significantly thanks to relegation as some sort of fair comparison just doesn't work. |  |
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| Controversial post alert on 18:31 - Oct 24 with 6384 views | haynes_toe1 |
| Controversial post alert on 10:55 - Oct 24 by Keaneish |
Fair point. Previous 6 were....
Millwall - 57%
Birmingham - 65%
Bristol City - 46%
Hull City - 61%
Sheff Utd - 45%
Sheff Wed - 41% |
So back to the bit when you told me it was unlikely we would ever have 60% possession in League One with Mick, despite the fact he achieved that in the league above (and without relegating us, might I add.).... | | | |
| Controversial post alert on 22:18 - Oct 24 with 6232 views | tractorshark |
to be fair, the vast majority of that 60% possession was in our own half being knocked sideways between full-backs and centre-backs. Rotherham were happy to let us have possession and then they pressed as soon as we looked like crossing the halfway line.
They hurried Skuse, Huws and Nolan into giving the ball away or going backwards.
I think the last two games are probably a reality check. We haven't been outstanding this season but the league is fairly poor and if you've got goalscorers you'll be up there. We showed that at the start of the season and Peterborough are doing the same now. | | | |
| Controversial post alert on 00:20 - Oct 25 with 6163 views | Sarge |
| Controversial post alert on 16:45 - Oct 24 by Mullet |
Mick never produced football this bad, mainly because he never got us relegated. However, I wonder if we are going to revisit those games where he won with almost 100% shot accuracy, but obviously didn't deserve to, cos errr well reasons.
There's nothing stopping Lambert emulating Mick here, but the whole club has gone so far backwards thanks to Hurst and Evans, he is still a long way off.
Being outplayed by Newcastle at their place is one thing, but having no outlets, no service and no organisation across the whole XI to Rotherham who have been weakened significantly thanks to relegation as some sort of fair comparison just doesn't work. |
Awful lot of cherry picking here. | | | |
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