| Agog on 10:01 - Nov 1 with 2932 views | chicoazul |
Friends I meant to say, your local Trussell Trust foodbank will accept loose sweets, candies, chocolate, crisps etc as long as they are wrapped and untouched. So if your kids have bundles of sweets and stuff after last night, do a good thing and take them to your local Trussell Trust (I dont know if other foodbanks take them but they definitely do).
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| Agog on 10:04 - Nov 1 with 2928 views | artsbossbeard |
| Agog on 10:01 - Nov 1 by chicoazul |
Friends I meant to say, your local Trussell Trust foodbank will accept loose sweets, candies, chocolate, crisps etc as long as they are wrapped and untouched. So if your kids have bundles of sweets and stuff after last night, do a good thing and take them to your local Trussell Trust (I dont know if other foodbanks take them but they definitely do).
https://www.trusselltrust.org/ |
Quick plug also for my new favourite band who have released a new single with all profits going to 2 x Manchester based homeless charities.
http://www.godisinthetvzine.co.uk/2019/10/30/news-w-h-lung-release-new-single-sy
Homelessness up 170%
Food bank usage up 1000% |  |
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| Agog on 10:10 - Nov 1 with 2898 views | itfcjoe |
It's so sad to read, but plenty will put their head in the sand and deny there is an issue.
It's everywhere if you want to look for it |  |
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| Agog on 10:11 - Nov 1 with 2887 views | footers |
Johnson: "Food banks are fantastic." |  |
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| Agog on 10:11 - Nov 1 with 2884 views | chicoazul |
Dreadful statistics. A vote for 2019 Toryism is a vote for foodbanks austerity and homelessness, and I am no fan of the Maximum Leader & would worry about who came after him but he is vastly preferable. [Post edited 1 Nov 2019 10:12]
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| Agog on 10:26 - Nov 1 with 2843 views | Herbivore |
This is the reason that nobody with a semblance of social conscience can possibly vote Tory in the upcoming election. |  |
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| Agog on 10:26 - Nov 1 with 2843 views | NotSure |
Homelessness up 170%
Food bank usage up 1000%
Can you explain these statistics please. They are meaningless without a timeframe. Not doubting them, I just want to understand them. |  | | |
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| Agog on 10:27 - Nov 1 with 2833 views | artsbossbeard |
| Agog on 10:26 - Nov 1 by NotSure |
Homelessness up 170%
Food bank usage up 1000%
Can you explain these statistics please. They are meaningless without a timeframe. Not doubting them, I just want to understand them. |
in the 9yrs of tory governing. | |
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| Agog on 10:34 - Nov 1 with 2798 views | Herbivore |
Brexit is only going to make things worse in terms of the NHS. We don't train enough nurses, midwives, docs etc. to meet demand. | |
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| Agog on 10:36 - Nov 1 with 2794 views | NotSure |
| Agog on 10:27 - Nov 1 by artsbossbeard |
in the 9yrs of tory governing. |
Thanks and now could you let me know the source.
The ONS reports a rise in rough sleeping of 94% from 2010.
Also what is your definition of homelessness? Does temporary accommodation count?
What I'm getting at is your statistics (which I'm sure will be all over social media in the next 6 weeks) are meaningless without timeframes, sources and definitions. | | | |
| Agog on 10:38 - Nov 1 with 2781 views | Fixed_It |
So very, very sad that this is what our society has been allowed to become. If nothing else makes people think twice about voting in the Tories for a further term then this should. |  |
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| Agog on 10:41 - Nov 1 with 2765 views | Fixed_It |
| Agog on 10:34 - Nov 1 by Herbivore |
Brexit is only going to make things worse in terms of the NHS. We don't train enough nurses, midwives, docs etc. to meet demand. |
'They come over here taking our jobs...'
Or something like that. [Post edited 1 Nov 2019 10:41]
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| Agog on 10:41 - Nov 1 with 2768 views | itfcjoe |
| Agog on 10:34 - Nov 1 by Herbivore |
Brexit is only going to make things worse in terms of the NHS. We don't train enough nurses, midwives, docs etc. to meet demand. |
The midwife who we were with for both our children was retiring after our 2nd, the job has changed so much according to her.
This is all anecdotal but she said how they would be deliberately understaffed at hospitals as the community ones were on call for 'emergencies', but every time you were on call there was an emergency because there was just normally one in at the hospital. So they always had to go in.
And when they went in, they earned something like £30 to cover a night shift, and were still expected to do all their normal duties and jobs the next day.
I'm currently reading This Is Going To Hurt, how we have got to a position where our Dr's Nurse's etc are being blamed for things is beyond me - it is the most selfless profession and generally done by very capable people who could be earning much more elsewhere to also illustrate their selflessness | |
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| Agog on 10:45 - Nov 1 with 2748 views | artsbossbeard |
| Agog on 10:36 - Nov 1 by NotSure |
Thanks and now could you let me know the source.
The ONS reports a rise in rough sleeping of 94% from 2010.
Also what is your definition of homelessness? Does temporary accommodation count?
What I'm getting at is your statistics (which I'm sure will be all over social media in the next 6 weeks) are meaningless without timeframes, sources and definitions. |
Christ on a bike.
My source would be a communication from Labour HQ, which I'll gladly accept will look to highlight matters in the worst possible light and I'll further accept that the % figures are therefore subject to interpretation. Nature of the political beast.
I've no idea how homeless/temporary accommodation stacks up.
In regard to food bank usage, there's been an additional 70% surge in the last 5 yrs which tallies with the introduction of austerity measures & universal credits. I'm sorry but I don't know the % of who wanted breakfast cereal or jam.
Edit: A quick google search brings up this and notes that there are many, many independent food banks in operation, so the % increase is difficult to gauge but if you read the story, I'm guessing we can go for "a lot".
https://www.thecanary.co/uk/news/2019/04/25/latest-trussell-trust-figures-show-u
Shameful stuff from a developed nation. [Post edited 1 Nov 2019 10:54]
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| Agog on 10:54 - Nov 1 with 2695 views | NotSure |
| Agog on 10:45 - Nov 1 by artsbossbeard |
Christ on a bike.
My source would be a communication from Labour HQ, which I'll gladly accept will look to highlight matters in the worst possible light and I'll further accept that the % figures are therefore subject to interpretation. Nature of the political beast.
I've no idea how homeless/temporary accommodation stacks up.
In regard to food bank usage, there's been an additional 70% surge in the last 5 yrs which tallies with the introduction of austerity measures & universal credits. I'm sorry but I don't know the % of who wanted breakfast cereal or jam.
Edit: A quick google search brings up this and notes that there are many, many independent food banks in operation, so the % increase is difficult to gauge but if you read the story, I'm guessing we can go for "a lot".
https://www.thecanary.co/uk/news/2019/04/25/latest-trussell-trust-figures-show-u
Shameful stuff from a developed nation. [Post edited 1 Nov 2019 10:54]
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No worries, I'm a statistics geek and it's going to wind me up the nonsense numbers that all parties will use to fit their argument.
£350m, 40 new hospitals, continuously announcing money that's already been announced! I hate it!
The problem I have with your above 2 numbers is that they are undoubtedly both high and embarrassing for this government. So nail them down, do some research and get them right. | | | |
| Agog on 11:19 - Nov 1 with 2643 views | Herbivore |
| Agog on 10:54 - Nov 1 by NotSure |
No worries, I'm a statistics geek and it's going to wind me up the nonsense numbers that all parties will use to fit their argument.
£350m, 40 new hospitals, continuously announcing money that's already been announced! I hate it!
The problem I have with your above 2 numbers is that they are undoubtedly both high and embarrassing for this government. So nail them down, do some research and get them right. |
What you're doing is deliberately obfuscating rather than addressing the issue of substance, which is a massive rise in child poverty, food bank usage, and homelessness under the past 9 years of Tory government. If being a pedant about whether things have got worse by 90% or 170% or whatever helps you feel better about it then good for you, but I worry for your conscience. | |
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| Agog on 11:30 - Nov 1 with 2626 views | Dubtractor |
Without clicking on the link I know that's wh lung. Played it on the radio last night and gave a plug to the charity benefits.
Re the theme of the thread, it is a disgusting state of affairs for this country.
Following the theme if that other thread, I for one will gladly pay a bit more tax to ensure that fewer people are left behind. |  |
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| Agog on 11:32 - Nov 1 with 2621 views | NotSure |
| Agog on 11:19 - Nov 1 by Herbivore |
What you're doing is deliberately obfuscating rather than addressing the issue of substance, which is a massive rise in child poverty, food bank usage, and homelessness under the past 9 years of Tory government. If being a pedant about whether things have got worse by 90% or 170% or whatever helps you feel better about it then good for you, but I worry for your conscience. |
It's got nothing to do with conscience and everything to do with getting facts correct.
Obviously universal credit is having a massive impact on food bank use.
But just just because you know something is terrible, it doesn't mean you can quote statistics that are absolutely meaningless. | | | |
| Agog on 12:05 - Nov 1 with 2549 views | Herbivore |
| Agog on 11:32 - Nov 1 by NotSure |
It's got nothing to do with conscience and everything to do with getting facts correct.
Obviously universal credit is having a massive impact on food bank use.
But just just because you know something is terrible, it doesn't mean you can quote statistics that are absolutely meaningless. |
Whatever helps you sleep at night. | |
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| Agog on 13:29 - Nov 1 with 2487 views | factual_blue |
| Agog on 10:26 - Nov 1 by Herbivore |
This is the reason that nobody with a semblance of social conscience can possibly vote Tory in the upcoming election. |
..or indeed any election.
Still, it's good of them to remind people what life at the time of Victorian values was.
TB, cholera or dysentery anybody? |  |
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| Agog on 16:15 - Nov 1 with 2418 views | jeera |
| Agog on 10:38 - Nov 1 by Fixed_It |
So very, very sad that this is what our society has been allowed to become. If nothing else makes people think twice about voting in the Tories for a further term then this should. |
I have spent time today making several calls to dentists trying to locate one that deals with NHS patients but alas, have found none.
One advised me if you don't like the situation, do everyone a favour and do not vote Conservative.
Not like I was about to, but nonetheless. |  |
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| Agog on 21:05 - Nov 1 with 2314 views | BlueBadger |
| Agog on 10:34 - Nov 1 by Herbivore |
Brexit is only going to make things worse in terms of the NHS. We don't train enough nurses, midwives, docs etc. to meet demand. |
It's already happening. Recruitment of EU nurses is essentially at zero(and has been since 2017) and applications to study nursing in this country are dropping. [Post edited 1 Nov 2019 22:19]
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| Agog on 21:24 - Nov 1 with 2284 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Agog on 10:10 - Nov 1 by itfcjoe |
It's so sad to read, but plenty will put their head in the sand and deny there is an issue.
It's everywhere if you want to look for it |
Not even if you want to look for it.
You would have to actively deliberately avoid seeing it unless you never go out even to relatively small towns.
How can such a large proportion of the electorate think it is OK or unavoidable?
It reminds me of the thread sleepwalking into Fascism. Something I have been thinking for some considerable time. I know plenty of decent people who are Tory voters because they just don't see what is right in front of their face. Not deliberately putting their heads in the sand as much as falling for the media line that these people don't help themselves. |  |
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| Agog on 21:43 - Nov 1 with 2265 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Agog on 21:05 - Nov 1 by BlueBadger |
It's already happening. Recruitment of EU nurses is essentially at zero(and has been since 2017) and applications to study nursing in this country are dropping. [Post edited 1 Nov 2019 22:19]
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A friend recently in for an op said that the standard of staffing since he was in about 10 years ago had deteriorated massively which he put down to wards being staffed by health care professionals on zero hour contracts. Is this accurate? |  |
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