Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning 08:25 - Nov 7 with 7859 views | ElderGrizzly |
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Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 08:31 - Nov 7 with 2598 views | BlueBadger | Let's open a book - at what point in this thread will someone raised CoE British say that Jewish people have no idea what they're talking about when it comes to anti-semitism? I'm giving it 15 minutes from thread start. [Post edited 7 Nov 2019 8:31]
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Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 08:39 - Nov 7 with 2571 views | factual_blue | Is this the same Jewish Chronicle that apologised to its readers for running an advert from the Disasters Emergency Committee about five years ago? | |
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Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 08:42 - Nov 7 with 2559 views | uefacup81 |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 08:39 - Nov 7 by factual_blue | Is this the same Jewish Chronicle that apologised to its readers for running an advert from the Disasters Emergency Committee about five years ago? |
Sorry, what!? | |
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Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 08:47 - Nov 7 with 2549 views | ZedRodgers |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 08:31 - Nov 7 by BlueBadger | Let's open a book - at what point in this thread will someone raised CoE British say that Jewish people have no idea what they're talking about when it comes to anti-semitism? I'm giving it 15 minutes from thread start. [Post edited 7 Nov 2019 8:31]
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Plenty of Jewish people who would disagree with this front page. Remarkable that he can be called an anti-semite without anti examples of his anti-semitism. | |
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Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 08:50 - Nov 7 with 2533 views | ElderGrizzly |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 08:47 - Nov 7 by ZedRodgers | Plenty of Jewish people who would disagree with this front page. Remarkable that he can be called an anti-semite without anti examples of his anti-semitism. |
Agree. I don’t believe he is an anti-semite, but for a publication such as this to go all out against him right now is significant. I’m sure Labour or Corbyn will challenge in the courts if they can prove it is false? | | | |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 08:52 - Nov 7 with 2527 views | uefacup81 |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 08:50 - Nov 7 by ElderGrizzly | Agree. I don’t believe he is an anti-semite, but for a publication such as this to go all out against him right now is significant. I’m sure Labour or Corbyn will challenge in the courts if they can prove it is false? |
It's a tricky one for them - it's probably best for them to let it lie. A court case would just produce more publicity for the claims and whatever evidence the Jewish Chronicle believe they have. As far as I can see, the extent of Corbyn's anti-semitism is pretty much just being critical of the actions of the state of Israel. [Post edited 7 Nov 2019 8:58]
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Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 08:58 - Nov 7 with 2522 views | factual_blue |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 08:42 - Nov 7 by uefacup81 | Sorry, what!? |
The ad was for aid for those in the Gaza Strip, affected by Operation Protective Edge launched by Israel. The editor stressed it wasn't his decision to run it, the paper was fully supportive of the Israeli operation. He also disputed the level civilian casualties, many of whom, he said, were terrorists. | |
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Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 08:58 - Nov 7 with 2514 views | uefacup81 |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 08:58 - Nov 7 by factual_blue | The ad was for aid for those in the Gaza Strip, affected by Operation Protective Edge launched by Israel. The editor stressed it wasn't his decision to run it, the paper was fully supportive of the Israeli operation. He also disputed the level civilian casualties, many of whom, he said, were terrorists. |
F*ck me dead. That's appalling. | |
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Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 08:59 - Nov 7 with 2501 views | ZedRodgers |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 08:50 - Nov 7 by ElderGrizzly | Agree. I don’t believe he is an anti-semite, but for a publication such as this to go all out against him right now is significant. I’m sure Labour or Corbyn will challenge in the courts if they can prove it is false? |
They've been all out against him for a while. As far as I know it's not possible to take a newspaper to court for suggesting people don't vote for somebody. Wording is always "poll says British Jews believe Corbyn to be..." etc. | |
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Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:01 - Nov 7 with 2491 views | footers |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 08:50 - Nov 7 by ElderGrizzly | Agree. I don’t believe he is an anti-semite, but for a publication such as this to go all out against him right now is significant. I’m sure Labour or Corbyn will challenge in the courts if they can prove it is false? |
How is it significant? They've been all out against him for months. Hardly surprising. | |
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Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:03 - Nov 7 with 2476 views | footers |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 08:59 - Nov 7 by ZedRodgers | They've been all out against him for a while. As far as I know it's not possible to take a newspaper to court for suggesting people don't vote for somebody. Wording is always "poll says British Jews believe Corbyn to be..." etc. |
Morning Zed, Hope you're well! Always lovely to see you. | |
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Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:04 - Nov 7 with 2467 views | Barneycurley |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:01 - Nov 7 by footers | How is it significant? They've been all out against him for months. Hardly surprising. |
Why is that do you believe? | |
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Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:04 - Nov 7 with 2465 views | crunchie1978 |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 08:31 - Nov 7 by BlueBadger | Let's open a book - at what point in this thread will someone raised CoE British say that Jewish people have no idea what they're talking about when it comes to anti-semitism? I'm giving it 15 minutes from thread start. [Post edited 7 Nov 2019 8:31]
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They just have to use their common sense surely! | | | |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:06 - Nov 7 with 2460 views | uefacup81 |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:04 - Nov 7 by Barneycurley | Why is that do you believe? |
I'd imagine at least part of it is due to the editor of the JC being a pro-Brexit Tory supporter. | |
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Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:06 - Nov 7 with 2459 views | footers |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:04 - Nov 7 by Barneycurley | Why is that do you believe? |
Dunno. What do you think? | |
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Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:07 - Nov 7 with 2453 views | ElderGrizzly |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:01 - Nov 7 by footers | How is it significant? They've been all out against him for months. Hardly surprising. |
I know, but they are doubling down and obviously significant given we have an election campaign now. Apparently this is going to be a series of articles that are published in the JC and in other sympathetic publications, including MSM leading up to the election. Its a problem Labour could do without, but i’m also not convinced on how many it will influence | | | |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:08 - Nov 7 with 2445 views | Oldsmoker | You're all going to upset Phil again. | |
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Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:09 - Nov 7 with 2441 views | uefacup81 |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:07 - Nov 7 by ElderGrizzly | I know, but they are doubling down and obviously significant given we have an election campaign now. Apparently this is going to be a series of articles that are published in the JC and in other sympathetic publications, including MSM leading up to the election. Its a problem Labour could do without, but i’m also not convinced on how many it will influence |
I think you make a good point there about influence. They've been banging that drum so long that I imagine they've got everyone on board that they could have got on board. If they keep on with this at the expense of talking about policy instead, there's probably a risk it could backfire. People want positive messages, not just constant "don't vote for X because" stuff. Case in point - Brexit. | |
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Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:10 - Nov 7 with 2433 views | Barneycurley |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:06 - Nov 7 by footers | Dunno. What do you think? |
Dunno. I am obviously not as informed as you - so I was hoping you could get me up to speed? | |
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Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:11 - Nov 7 with 2435 views | uefacup81 |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:08 - Nov 7 by Oldsmoker | You're all going to upset Phil again. |
We're okay for a while, until the more unhinged amongst us have woken up and their carers have left... | |
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Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:13 - Nov 7 with 2428 views | ZedRodgers |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:03 - Nov 7 by footers | Morning Zed, Hope you're well! Always lovely to see you. |
A fine morning Mr. Foot. I checked into an Airbnb in Penzance on Monday to focus on my writing. The thought of applying to stand for Labour in Bassetlaw was distracting me though, so I've nipped out to a welcoming but distinctly average cafe for a breakfast burrito. | |
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Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:17 - Nov 7 with 2409 views | GlasgowBlue |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 08:52 - Nov 7 by uefacup81 | It's a tricky one for them - it's probably best for them to let it lie. A court case would just produce more publicity for the claims and whatever evidence the Jewish Chronicle believe they have. As far as I can see, the extent of Corbyn's anti-semitism is pretty much just being critical of the actions of the state of Israel. [Post edited 7 Nov 2019 8:58]
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Yeah it’s just being critical of the actions of the state of Israel
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Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:22 - Nov 7 with 2392 views | uefacup81 |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:17 - Nov 7 by GlasgowBlue | Yeah it’s just being critical of the actions of the state of Israel
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I'll try and make a wider response to this in due course, but there's one in there which I can give a pretty insightful comment on. I wouldn't be surprised if the "Israeli puppetmaster" bit from June 2010 has some element of truth to it. I worked in the campaign office of the local Tory MP during the 2010 election, and following her victory I took a number of calls from the Israeli Ambassador to the UK who was very insistent that he simply had to speak with her. It could have been regarding all manner of things, granted, but I'm not sure someone just wanting to pass on their congratulations would be so rabid in their attempts to speak with her. | |
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Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:23 - Nov 7 with 2392 views | GaryCooper |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:17 - Nov 7 by GlasgowBlue | Yeah it’s just being critical of the actions of the state of Israel
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He has a penchant for supporting convicted bombers doesn't he? The romanticism of the freedom fighter, with the blood of innocent civilians the price worth paying for his search for a sixth form cause. | | | |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:27 - Nov 7 with 2370 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Jewish Chronicle aren’t holding back this morning on 09:23 - Nov 7 by GaryCooper | He has a penchant for supporting convicted bombers doesn't he? The romanticism of the freedom fighter, with the blood of innocent civilians the price worth paying for his search for a sixth form cause. |
*adds Gary Cooper to list of people not to waste virtual breath on.* | |
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