| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 10:15 - Nov 13 with 7712 views | usm |
Poxy Tories........... |  |
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| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 17:48 - Nov 13 with 2268 views | GlasgowBlue |
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A rather uninformed post from you there pal, the OP had nothing to do with food bank usage and starvation in the UK, therefore the comment you’re referring to clearly doesn’t think starvation is a joke. Calm down. |
The "pondlife" comment was in direct response to Jake's post regarding food bank usage. There can be no other interpretation other than FS was calling food bank users pondlife. Which is disgusting. |  |
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| Violent crime up, drug related crime up.... on 13:27 - Nov 13 by Ryorry |
Closure of one branch of GPs' surgery near me (very large village in very rural area), despite significant rise in population - and simultaneous drastic cutting back of local bus service to get to the other 2 branches, both about 5 miles away.
In the literature the docs put out about this, one reason given for the closure was extreme difficulty in finding doctors to fill GP posts atm, partly because of increase in hours & work overload -> stress.
A petition against the closure has been started & already got thousands of signatures (incl from local councillors) but won't achieve anything. Tory MP (Julian Smith, ex chief-whip) won't give a monkeys. [Post edited 13 Nov 2019 13:36]
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If your luck is really in they may hold a royal commission! |  |
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| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 18:51 - Nov 13 with 2231 views | GaryCooper |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 10:43 - Nov 13 by JakeITFC |
The work done by the charity is crucial and noble, however the reasons why the charity has to exist are of course caused by negative reasons.
Ideally we’d live in a world where the 6th richest economy doesn’t require a charity to feed its population. |
Or to rescue those in trouble at sea, or those terminally ill, or those who require an air ambulance, or those who served in the real front line and received injuries. |  | | |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 19:08 - Nov 13 with 2214 views | crunchie1978 |
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The "pondlife" comment was in direct response to Jake's post regarding food bank usage. There can be no other interpretation other than FS was calling food bank users pondlife. Which is disgusting. |
I put my trousers on have a cup of tea and think about leaving for the food bank.
Pond life! |  | | |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 19:14 - Nov 13 with 2206 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 10:32 - Nov 13 by BlueBadger |
Why would the Conservative party be asking Mother Theresa for help? |
They were quite happy to ask the DUP.
I am sure if Mother Theresa asked for no more than £1bn and she held the swing seat they would happily engage her support. In fact I suspect the only person they would stop short of would be Corbyn … dangerous man he is. |  |
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| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 19:15 - Nov 13 with 2203 views | Dubtractor |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 18:51 - Nov 13 by GaryCooper |
Or to rescue those in trouble at sea, or those terminally ill, or those who require an air ambulance, or those who served in the real front line and received injuries. |
That comment would have some weight if the issues you've listed had become dramatically worse over the last 10 or so years. People needing food banks in huge numbers is as a direct result of recent government policies - for me that is disgraceful. |  |
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| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 20:59 - Nov 13 with 2154 views | Meadowlark |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 11:35 - Nov 13 by GlasgowBlue |
"Pity you've spent years on here attacking people and parties who have been pointed this stuff out".
You do talk a load of old bollox don't you? The only people I've been "attacking" on here are those who have excused and defended racism in the Labour party because they are quite happy to chuck a BAME community under the bus to get rid of the Tories.
A moderate non racist Labour party would be a far more attractive proposition to somebody like me who is currently politically homeless. |
I recall you "shouted" at me last time I tried to have a discussion with you GB, I think because I'm a bit dim and wasn't keeping up, but you seem like a nice person at heart, so I'll try again. Actually, not a discussion, just a question.
You keep on about Labour being antisemitic, but do you really believe that everyone who is a member of the party and everyone who votes for them must also share those views?
Similarly, are all Tory voters and their members racist and islamophobic?
I don't believe that either of these parties' manifestoes include any racist policies. I hope not anyway.
These accusations are surely just sticks with which those that oppose either party can add to their weaponry, and are used to divert the conversation away from other policies.
Or do you believe that antisemitism is a fundamental feature of the Labour Party and that everyone that votes for them does so because they agree and by definition they too are antisemitic? |  | | |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 21:10 - Nov 13 with 2127 views | GlasgowBlue |
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I recall you "shouted" at me last time I tried to have a discussion with you GB, I think because I'm a bit dim and wasn't keeping up, but you seem like a nice person at heart, so I'll try again. Actually, not a discussion, just a question.
You keep on about Labour being antisemitic, but do you really believe that everyone who is a member of the party and everyone who votes for them must also share those views?
Similarly, are all Tory voters and their members racist and islamophobic?
I don't believe that either of these parties' manifestoes include any racist policies. I hope not anyway.
These accusations are surely just sticks with which those that oppose either party can add to their weaponry, and are used to divert the conversation away from other policies.
Or do you believe that antisemitism is a fundamental feature of the Labour Party and that everyone that votes for them does so because they agree and by definition they too are antisemitic? |
I've done this soooooooooooooo many times.
No I don't believe that the majority of Labour members* or voters* are antisemitic. Many good people will vote Labour at this election.
That said, I believe that Corbyn is a modern day antisemite and every vote for a Labour candidate gets an antisemite closer to number 10.
*A recent survey showed that Labour voters are less likely to hold antisemitic views than voters of other parties but Labour officers (people who hold positions of authority in the Labour party) are 8 x more likely to hold antisemitic views than officers of other parties.
Yes I believe that antisemitism under Corbyn has become a fundamental feature of the Labour party. The Equality and Human Rights Commission also believe that there is enough evidence that Labour is institutionally antisemitic that they have begun a statutory investigation into the party. The first political party to be investigated since the BNP.
What does institutional antisemitism look like? This is a very good example.....
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1194623722008662019.html | |
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| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 21:17 - Nov 13 with 2135 views | Oxford_Blue |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 10:21 - Nov 13 by JakeITFC |
823,000 food bank visits between April and September of this year.
Poxy tories indeed. |
And there’s never been poverty before this Tory government? | | | |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 21:21 - Nov 13 with 2126 views | m14_blue |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 21:17 - Nov 13 by Oxford_Blue |
And there’s never been poverty before this Tory government? |
Where did he say that.
Food bank use has increased massively, presumably you’re not disputing that? [Post edited 13 Nov 2019 21:22]
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| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 21:21 - Nov 13 with 2126 views | tractordownsouth |
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And there’s never been poverty before this Tory government? |
Not on this scale, no |  |
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| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 21:31 - Nov 13 with 2117 views | Darth_Koont |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 21:10 - Nov 13 by GlasgowBlue |
I've done this soooooooooooooo many times.
No I don't believe that the majority of Labour members* or voters* are antisemitic. Many good people will vote Labour at this election.
That said, I believe that Corbyn is a modern day antisemite and every vote for a Labour candidate gets an antisemite closer to number 10.
*A recent survey showed that Labour voters are less likely to hold antisemitic views than voters of other parties but Labour officers (people who hold positions of authority in the Labour party) are 8 x more likely to hold antisemitic views than officers of other parties.
Yes I believe that antisemitism under Corbyn has become a fundamental feature of the Labour party. The Equality and Human Rights Commission also believe that there is enough evidence that Labour is institutionally antisemitic that they have begun a statutory investigation into the party. The first political party to be investigated since the BNP.
What does institutional antisemitism look like? This is a very good example.....
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1194623722008662019.html |
"That said, I believe that Corbyn is a modern day antisemite and every vote for a Labour candidate gets an antisemite closer to number 10."
You're either a fool or a liar, possibly both as your Corbyn hard-on seems to have sent you over the edge.
The actual number of Labour members investigated for antisemitic incidents is 300 times less than the AVERAGE person in the UK believes. Do you dispute that is the way this has been characterised? And that's with fierce Israel apologists and other right-wingers crawling the internet and social media for evidence.
What's the reference for the Labour officials being 8 times more likely to hold antisemitic views? That certainly needs some investigation. I wonder if it will have anything to do with Labour officials being at least 100 times more likely to be pro-Palestinian and perhaps mentioned BDS or criticized the ultra-zionists who don't believe in Palestinians' human rights?
You've called me an antisemite on here and accused me of spreading "anti-Jewish poison" so forgive me if I find these anglings more than a little dubious at face value. [Post edited 13 Nov 2019 21:33]
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| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 21:43 - Nov 13 with 2102 views | Darth_Koont |
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I recall you "shouted" at me last time I tried to have a discussion with you GB, I think because I'm a bit dim and wasn't keeping up, but you seem like a nice person at heart, so I'll try again. Actually, not a discussion, just a question.
You keep on about Labour being antisemitic, but do you really believe that everyone who is a member of the party and everyone who votes for them must also share those views?
Similarly, are all Tory voters and their members racist and islamophobic?
I don't believe that either of these parties' manifestoes include any racist policies. I hope not anyway.
These accusations are surely just sticks with which those that oppose either party can add to their weaponry, and are used to divert the conversation away from other policies.
Or do you believe that antisemitism is a fundamental feature of the Labour Party and that everyone that votes for them does so because they agree and by definition they too are antisemitic? |
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| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 22:22 - Nov 13 with 2080 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 21:10 - Nov 13 by GlasgowBlue |
I've done this soooooooooooooo many times.
No I don't believe that the majority of Labour members* or voters* are antisemitic. Many good people will vote Labour at this election.
That said, I believe that Corbyn is a modern day antisemite and every vote for a Labour candidate gets an antisemite closer to number 10.
*A recent survey showed that Labour voters are less likely to hold antisemitic views than voters of other parties but Labour officers (people who hold positions of authority in the Labour party) are 8 x more likely to hold antisemitic views than officers of other parties.
Yes I believe that antisemitism under Corbyn has become a fundamental feature of the Labour party. The Equality and Human Rights Commission also believe that there is enough evidence that Labour is institutionally antisemitic that they have begun a statutory investigation into the party. The first political party to be investigated since the BNP.
What does institutional antisemitism look like? This is a very good example.....
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1194623722008662019.html |
A decent discussion here around the moral dilema. And it is that. as on the one hand you'vve got the antisematism investigation of labour, on the other hand different but equally unsavoury examples from the tories.
https://politics.co.uk/blogs/2019/11/08/week-in-review-the-moral-horror-of-the-l
Do people fight for what they believe in or do they throw the baby out with the bathwater by vetoing Corbyn. The personal view in the article above is that Labour can be fixed. But you have to swallow something pretty unsavoury to even get to the pont where that's possible.
Given the non-release of the Russian interference report, I hoestly think there are are solid reasons for not voting for either Labour or Tory. Imo neither party should be allowed to stand until these various investigations and accusations are resolved, but that's an unrealistic ideal.
I've no idea what I'm going to do in the GE becasue of all of this. |  |
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| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 07:37 - Nov 14 with 2026 views | Keaneish |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 11:06 - Nov 13 by GlasgowBlue |
Good news for the majority of people who our economy works for but sadly not for those who have been left behind.
I've been a conservative voter all my life but even I can see that the pendulum has swung too far in one direction.
I don't think voting for a Marxist who would rather play internal party politics than get in a position to do real good is the answer either. The first people to suffer if he crashes the economy would be those most in need.
A Lib Dem government would be far more sensible fiscally than Labour but at the same time would be more caring to those at the bottom. As a one nation Tory they are probably closer to me politically than the current Tory party. |
Took a look at the Lib Dem policies yesterday and felt many of them were superficial and simply papering over the cracks. More investment in teachers isn’t the answer to better education. Immediate mental health care attention is fraught with issues as is a £10k budget per individual for re-education/training and their policy to reinvest the £50bn non-brexit divorce into bridging the growing economic divide lacks substance.
Despite being a centre red who believes there’s a balance to be had between Socialism and meritocracy, I’m struggling to know where my vote is going in a few weeks time. |  |
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| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 09:22 - Nov 14 with 2002 views | Meadowlark |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 21:10 - Nov 13 by GlasgowBlue |
I've done this soooooooooooooo many times.
No I don't believe that the majority of Labour members* or voters* are antisemitic. Many good people will vote Labour at this election.
That said, I believe that Corbyn is a modern day antisemite and every vote for a Labour candidate gets an antisemite closer to number 10.
*A recent survey showed that Labour voters are less likely to hold antisemitic views than voters of other parties but Labour officers (people who hold positions of authority in the Labour party) are 8 x more likely to hold antisemitic views than officers of other parties.
Yes I believe that antisemitism under Corbyn has become a fundamental feature of the Labour party. The Equality and Human Rights Commission also believe that there is enough evidence that Labour is institutionally antisemitic that they have begun a statutory investigation into the party. The first political party to be investigated since the BNP.
What does institutional antisemitism look like? This is a very good example.....
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1194623722008662019.html |
Interesting. Thanks for your explanation (and apologies if I missed it previously!). | | | |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 09:31 - Nov 14 with 2001 views | usm |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 11:16 - Nov 13 by artsbossbeard |
I fully understand that parents aren't able to afford to feed their kids. I also think that this is the key point rather than worrying about the meaning of a word to describe abject hunger. |
Yeh I get that - there are many people in need , but 823,000 foodbank visits???
Presumably they found out where the foodbanks were on their iphones | |
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| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 09:36 - Nov 14 with 1982 views | usm |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 21:21 - Nov 13 by m14_blue |
Where did he say that.
Food bank use has increased massively, presumably you’re not disputing that? [Post edited 13 Nov 2019 21:22]
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Its the "You build it, they'll come syndrome"
I dont doubt there are many people who "need" foodbanks, but a lot of people use them who dont "need" them, but prefer to spend our money on fags, booze, iphones and Sky rather than on food. | |
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| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 09:40 - Nov 14 with 1974 views | artsbossbeard |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 09:36 - Nov 14 by usm |
Its the "You build it, they'll come syndrome"
I dont doubt there are many people who "need" foodbanks, but a lot of people use them who dont "need" them, but prefer to spend our money on fags, booze, iphones and Sky rather than on food. |
Todays "Total Lack of Empathy Towards Your Fellow Man Award goes to... |  |
| Please note: prior to hitting the post button, I've double checked for anything that could be construed as "Anti Semitic" and to the best of my knowledge it isn't. Anything deemed to be of a Xenophobic nature is therefore purely accidental or down to your own misconstruing. | | Poll: | Raining in IP8 - shall I get the washing in? |
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| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 09:42 - Nov 14 with 1970 views | jeera |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 09:36 - Nov 14 by usm |
Its the "You build it, they'll come syndrome"
I dont doubt there are many people who "need" foodbanks, but a lot of people use them who dont "need" them, but prefer to spend our money on fags, booze, iphones and Sky rather than on food. |
Nothing like a bit of stereotyping.
Have you always held such disgusting views or is it something you've been working on?
There will always be the odd 'one', but that's not to mask the need of others.
Your priorities are all wrong. |  |
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| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 09:42 - Nov 14 with 1967 views | JakeITFC |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 09:36 - Nov 14 by usm |
Its the "You build it, they'll come syndrome"
I dont doubt there are many people who "need" foodbanks, but a lot of people use them who dont "need" them, but prefer to spend our money on fags, booze, iphones and Sky rather than on food. |
Don’t be a prick. |  | | |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 09:48 - Nov 14 with 1945 views | artsbossbeard |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 09:42 - Nov 14 by jeera |
Nothing like a bit of stereotyping.
Have you always held such disgusting views or is it something you've been working on?
There will always be the odd 'one', but that's not to mask the need of others.
Your priorities are all wrong. |
Exactly.
Thankfully, most of us have never been in the position to rely on others however, I'm sure that there's a lot of people who feel both degraded and embarrassed by having to use a food bank just to get by and put a meal on a table. [Post edited 14 Nov 2019 9:48]
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| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 10:08 - Nov 14 with 1909 views | usm |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 09:40 - Nov 14 by artsbossbeard |
Todays "Total Lack of Empathy Towards Your Fellow Man Award goes to... |
Cheers Dude, thats my first today | |
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| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 10:13 - Nov 14 with 1892 views | noggin |
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Cheers Dude, thats my first today |
And proud of it, apparently. |  |
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| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 10:55 - Nov 14 with 1848 views | brazil1982 |
| Earnings rise by 3.6%, inflation by 1.5%, unemployment down by 23,000 on 09:36 - Nov 14 by usm |
Its the "You build it, they'll come syndrome"
I dont doubt there are many people who "need" foodbanks, but a lot of people use them who dont "need" them, but prefer to spend our money on fags, booze, iphones and Sky rather than on food. |
I don't doubt the harsh realities of users of FBs. A colleague of mine co-manages a FB, one of the reasons <some> people use them is they would rather spend money on drugs / drink (addictions) than food. That is their priority which in itself is a sad state of affairs. | | | |
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