| Dog whistle politics at its worst 21:35 - Nov 17 with 4252 views | ElderGrizzly |
They really are a bunch of c*nts
Only 139,000 foreign nationals working to keep the NHS going... |  | | |  |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 21:41 - Nov 17 with 2945 views | J2BLUE |
What's wrong with that? I may well be missing something here. |  |
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| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 21:55 - Nov 17 with 2921 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 21:41 - Nov 17 by J2BLUE |
What's wrong with that? I may well be missing something here. |
Anyone who has a job and pays taxes here, should be covered. He and the Tories are playing on the foreigners are bad card again.
EEA nationals paid £21.6 billion in income tax and national insurance in 2016/17. They received £3 billion in tax credits and child benefits. In other words, they contributed a net £18.6 billion (more than twice our EU membership fee!) to the Treasury.
The cost of NHS use is around £500m a year by ‘foreigners’ and about £100m is recovered on average. This is not why the NHS is on its arse. | | | |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 22:00 - Nov 17 with 2887 views | Darth_Koont |
Isn't that a lot down to our own government not able to organize recouping the money it's entitled to from other EU countries for treatment of their citizens?
Agreed re: the dogwhistling and the insult when we're otherwise dependent on foreign workers for the NHS to even function at all.
All seems a bit scapegoat-y and nasty for problems that are still largely down to their own underfunding and mismanagement.
What else have they got though? |  |
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| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 22:07 - Nov 17 with 2852 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 21:41 - Nov 17 by J2BLUE |
What's wrong with that? I may well be missing something here. |
And of course post Brexit, if we are not in the EEA, our EHIC cards will be useless in the EU - people seem to forget that it works both ways..
Looks like the Govt want other EU countries to honour them till Dec 2020, but we won't if we leave on Jan 31st......
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-49989227 |  |
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| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 22:12 - Nov 17 with 2821 views | tractordownsouth |
Not that it relates to his political views, but does anyone else think Matt Hancock would look great in an SS uniform? |  |
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| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 22:19 - Nov 17 with 2802 views | m14_blue |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 21:41 - Nov 17 by J2BLUE |
What's wrong with that? I may well be missing something here. |
Because it’s yet more demonising of immigrants and playing to the crowd, without any regard for the huge contribution they make to our country.
A hostile environment indeed. |  | | |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 22:20 - Nov 17 with 2795 views | factual_blue |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 22:12 - Nov 17 by tractordownsouth |
Not that it relates to his political views, but does anyone else think Matt Hancock would look great in an SS uniform? |
Not good as Standartenführer mogg. |  |
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| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 22:28 - Nov 17 with 2770 views | J2BLUE |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 21:55 - Nov 17 by ElderGrizzly |
Anyone who has a job and pays taxes here, should be covered. He and the Tories are playing on the foreigners are bad card again.
EEA nationals paid £21.6 billion in income tax and national insurance in 2016/17. They received £3 billion in tax credits and child benefits. In other words, they contributed a net £18.6 billion (more than twice our EU membership fee!) to the Treasury.
The cost of NHS use is around £500m a year by ‘foreigners’ and about £100m is recovered on average. This is not why the NHS is on its arse. |
I somehow missed that this was in addition to taxes.
'Anyone who has a job and pays taxes here, should be covered.'
Fully agree with this. | |
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| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 22:44 - Nov 17 with 2713 views | factual_blue |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 22:28 - Nov 17 by J2BLUE |
I somehow missed that this was in addition to taxes.
'Anyone who has a job and pays taxes here, should be covered.'
Fully agree with this. |
'Anyone who has a job or pays taxes here, should be covered.'
That's of course what you meant.
Unless you're giving vent to your rampant ageism again. | |
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| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 23:03 - Nov 17 with 2670 views | jeera |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 22:44 - Nov 17 by factual_blue |
'Anyone who has a job or pays taxes here, should be covered.'
That's of course what you meant.
Unless you're giving vent to your rampant ageism again. |
Once retired, you should be left to take your chances. |  |
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| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 23:12 - Nov 17 with 2650 views | factual_blue |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 23:03 - Nov 17 by jeera |
Once retired, you should be left to take your chances. |
*virulent ageist abuse reported* | |
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| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 23:13 - Nov 17 with 2661 views | BlueBadger |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 21:41 - Nov 17 by J2BLUE |
What's wrong with that? I may well be missing something here. |
For starters, it's an outright lie. Any EU national visiting the country needing medical treatment will have it paid for thanks to reciprocal arrangements with the EU via the EHIC. Non EU visitors are charged at a rate of 150% NHS rate. [Post edited 18 Nov 2019 11:09]
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| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 23:15 - Nov 17 with 2647 views | BlueBadger |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 21:55 - Nov 17 by ElderGrizzly |
Anyone who has a job and pays taxes here, should be covered. He and the Tories are playing on the foreigners are bad card again.
EEA nationals paid £21.6 billion in income tax and national insurance in 2016/17. They received £3 billion in tax credits and child benefits. In other words, they contributed a net £18.6 billion (more than twice our EU membership fee!) to the Treasury.
The cost of NHS use is around £500m a year by ‘foreigners’ and about £100m is recovered on average. This is not why the NHS is on its arse. |
For context, the cost to the NHS of the internal market system(that's the tier of management dedicated to outsourcing services to the private sector) is 8 times that. At least. | |
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| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 23:21 - Nov 17 with 2615 views | J2BLUE |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 22:44 - Nov 17 by factual_blue |
'Anyone who has a job or pays taxes here, should be covered.'
That's of course what you meant.
Unless you're giving vent to your rampant ageism again. |
I was just quoting the OP but quite right. I have nothing but love for you old people. | |
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| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 23:24 - Nov 17 with 2608 views | jeera |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 23:21 - Nov 17 by J2BLUE |
I was just quoting the OP but quite right. I have nothing but love for you old people. |
Even the most difficult, sarcastic feckers who use online forums? | |
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| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 23:26 - Nov 17 with 2598 views | J2BLUE |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 23:24 - Nov 17 by jeera |
Even the most difficult, sarcastic feckers who use online forums? |
I wish Facters and his family long lives of good health and hope he enjoys his gold plated pension. | |
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| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 23:28 - Nov 17 with 2591 views | jeera |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 23:26 - Nov 17 by J2BLUE |
I wish Facters and his family long lives of good health and hope he enjoys his gold plated pension. |
So do I.
Why should he get out of it early? | |
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| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 23:44 - Nov 17 with 2554 views | J2BLUE |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 23:28 - Nov 17 by jeera |
So do I.
Why should he get out of it early? |
That's the spirit. | |
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| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 23:47 - Nov 17 with 2548 views | Swansea_Blue |
“They really are a bunch of c*nts”.
Yep, with bells on. This’ll get the gammon vote though - they know what they’re doing. Anyone who’s happy to support these shameless crooks needs their head read. |  |
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| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 23:59 - Nov 17 with 2536 views | factual_blue |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 23:26 - Nov 17 by J2BLUE |
I wish Facters and his family long lives of good health and hope he enjoys his gold plated pension. |
As I keep reminding people, it's a solid gold pension with iridium filigree. | |
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| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 00:00 - Nov 18 with 2538 views | factual_blue |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 23:28 - Nov 17 by jeera |
So do I.
Why should he get out of it early? |
As most of you will never find out, retirement is end-to-end happiness. With nice holidays. | |
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| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 00:08 - Nov 18 with 2532 views | factual_blue |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 23:24 - Nov 17 by jeera |
Even the most difficult, sarcastic feckers who use online forums? |
People like that make me seethe. | |
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| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 00:24 - Nov 18 with 2515 views | factual_blue |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 23:47 - Nov 17 by Swansea_Blue |
“They really are a bunch of c*nts”.
Yep, with bells on. This’ll get the gammon vote though - they know what they’re doing. Anyone who’s happy to support these shameless crooks needs their head read. |
The printout from reading those people's heads will simply say 'mahogany' - a dense hardwood the colour of ordure.
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| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 02:39 - Nov 18 with 2453 views | IPS_wich |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 21:55 - Nov 17 by ElderGrizzly |
Anyone who has a job and pays taxes here, should be covered. He and the Tories are playing on the foreigners are bad card again.
EEA nationals paid £21.6 billion in income tax and national insurance in 2016/17. They received £3 billion in tax credits and child benefits. In other words, they contributed a net £18.6 billion (more than twice our EU membership fee!) to the Treasury.
The cost of NHS use is around £500m a year by ‘foreigners’ and about £100m is recovered on average. This is not why the NHS is on its arse. |
I say this an NHS loving left of centre person...
... to be fair the tweet says that non-UK residents should have to pay. A foreigner who is paying tax and NI in the UK would be classed as resident (otherwise they wouldn't have an NI number) and therefore would be exempt.
In fact that persons immediate family (if in the UK) would also be conferred with resident status so would also not have to pay.
I see this as more of a crack down on illegal immigrants and health tourists rather than overseas families living and working in the UK.
I'm not making any judgement on the rights and wrongs, merely commenting as a UK citizen who is an expat overseas (and therefore resident overseas). Which makes me wonder as a British citizen who is not resident in the UK whether I would therefore have to pay for NHS treatment under this policy?? | | | |
| Dog whistle politics at its worst on 04:18 - Nov 18 with 2427 views | NewcyBlue |
“ Only 139,000 foreign nationals working to keep the NHS going”
It really is the International Health Service. We should be proud of it and all those who work to keep it going.
When I go pick up MrsN from the hospital she works at, I normally get surrounded by Filipinos who know I speak a bit of Tagalog. It’s wonderful. The shouts of kabigan that hear and the smiling faces.
We had a Nigerian doctor for one of our rounds of IVF and I talked to him about Lagos, and the Bonny River, and the state of Nigeria. |  |
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