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Leaders' debate factchecked 11:04 - Nov 20 with 853 viewsBobbychase

Johnson told more lies. He wins the trophy

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Leaders' debate factchecked on 11:40 - Nov 20 with 802 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

Most of those aren’t lies though, not everything that someone says that isn’t 100% accurate is a lie. I would suggest:

Corbyn deal narrowly through with support of DUP: potentially a genuine mistake mentioning DUP support but pretty clear he would know they didn’t support it. On the fence as to whether a lie but a bit naughty I’d suggest

Johnson 20,000 more police and 40 hospitals: police isn’t a lie if they are indeed recruiting 20k new ones (which is debatable). Fact that numbers have previously been slashed under their government is a worthy counterpoint but doesn’t make the statement a lie. 40 hospitals appears to be an obvious lie unless thy do actually have some miraculous plan up their sleeves

Corbyn nurse vacancies: obvious error, and doesn’t mislead as actual number bigger

Johnson NI border: spin rather than lie

Corbyn sell out NHS to US: Opinion/supposition rather than a lie, same with responses at this point

Johnson corporation tax: not a lie on the lowest, would have been in his favour to note others were lower so seems likely he was talking candidly and comparing to main players. Similarly comment he Corbyn increasing a supposition and not far from the truth based on stated plans, but probably a bit misleading

Overall - one big lie from Johnson and a misleading comment from each. I’d suggest the Conservatives Twitter shenanigans was far more of a concern

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Leaders' debate factchecked on 11:58 - Nov 20 with 774 viewsSwansea_Blue

Leaders' debate factchecked on 11:40 - Nov 20 by C_HealyIsAPleasure

Most of those aren’t lies though, not everything that someone says that isn’t 100% accurate is a lie. I would suggest:

Corbyn deal narrowly through with support of DUP: potentially a genuine mistake mentioning DUP support but pretty clear he would know they didn’t support it. On the fence as to whether a lie but a bit naughty I’d suggest

Johnson 20,000 more police and 40 hospitals: police isn’t a lie if they are indeed recruiting 20k new ones (which is debatable). Fact that numbers have previously been slashed under their government is a worthy counterpoint but doesn’t make the statement a lie. 40 hospitals appears to be an obvious lie unless thy do actually have some miraculous plan up their sleeves

Corbyn nurse vacancies: obvious error, and doesn’t mislead as actual number bigger

Johnson NI border: spin rather than lie

Corbyn sell out NHS to US: Opinion/supposition rather than a lie, same with responses at this point

Johnson corporation tax: not a lie on the lowest, would have been in his favour to note others were lower so seems likely he was talking candidly and comparing to main players. Similarly comment he Corbyn increasing a supposition and not far from the truth based on stated plans, but probably a bit misleading

Overall - one big lie from Johnson and a misleading comment from each. I’d suggest the Conservatives Twitter shenanigans was far more of a concern


You’re far too generous. Spin, lie or misinformation - it’s all aimed at distorting the truth. We should demand better by not voting for any politician who misleads the public for personal or political gain. (Like that’s going to happen!).

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Leaders' debate factchecked on 12:25 - Nov 20 with 748 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

Leaders' debate factchecked on 11:58 - Nov 20 by Swansea_Blue

You’re far too generous. Spin, lie or misinformation - it’s all aimed at distorting the truth. We should demand better by not voting for any politician who misleads the public for personal or political gain. (Like that’s going to happen!).


I’m not - being wrong doesn’t automatically equate to a lie, quite obviously, and labelling everything a lie just weakens the point when calling out actual blatant lies

Agree to a point re spin but it’s natural to accentuate positives and again doesn’t make things factually incorrect - ultimately it’s up to people and rival politicians to challenge where this happens

Politicians should of course be held to account for actual lies and misinformation, no disagreements here

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Leaders' debate factchecked on 12:39 - Nov 20 with 724 viewsfactual_blue

Leaders' debate factchecked on 11:58 - Nov 20 by Swansea_Blue

You’re far too generous. Spin, lie or misinformation - it’s all aimed at distorting the truth. We should demand better by not voting for any politician who misleads the public for personal or political gain. (Like that’s going to happen!).


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Leaders' debate factchecked on 14:10 - Nov 20 with 657 viewslongtimefan

Leaders' debate factchecked on 11:58 - Nov 20 by Swansea_Blue

You’re far too generous. Spin, lie or misinformation - it’s all aimed at distorting the truth. We should demand better by not voting for any politician who misleads the public for personal or political gain. (Like that’s going to happen!).


That rules out all politicians then
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