| Conservative manifesto 19:18 - Nov 24 with 8060 views | Herbivore |
Looks to be less a manifesto and more a couple of slogans endlessly repeated. It's shockingly lacking in detail and substance and offers no real vision for the country. |  |
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| Conservative manifesto on 19:24 - Nov 24 with 2400 views | homer_123 |
It's not exactly visionary. |  |
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| Conservative manifesto on 19:27 - Nov 24 with 2387 views | footers |
"Reverse some of our cuts"
Cool. |  |
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| Conservative manifesto on 19:28 - Nov 24 with 2382 views | BrixtonBlue |
I like how they said bus passes for pensioners would remain. Bit weird to announce something that's not changing. |  |
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| Conservative manifesto on 19:28 - Nov 24 with 2383 views | Herbivore |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:24 - Nov 24 by homer_123 |
It's not exactly visionary. |
Their campaign isn't at all. They're just desperately trying not to score any massive own goals and sticking to the two lines of "Get Brexit done" and "Boo, Labour, boo!!!". That's it. That's the entirety of their GE campaign really. Their backers in the press are doing a grand job of selling it too, their lead in the polls is somehow holding or, in some polls, increasing. This country is inhabited largely by turkeys who happily vote for Xmas. [Post edited 24 Nov 2019 19:36]
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| Conservative manifesto on 19:29 - Nov 24 with 2377 views | Herbivore |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:28 - Nov 24 by BrixtonBlue |
I like how they said bus passes for pensioners would remain. Bit weird to announce something that's not changing. |
The grey vote is what wins them elections. It's a reminder to them that the Tories care about old people (so long as they aren't sick or poor). | |
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| Conservative manifesto on 19:34 - Nov 24 with 2350 views | footers |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:29 - Nov 24 by Herbivore |
The grey vote is what wins them elections. It's a reminder to them that the Tories care about old people (so long as they aren't sick or poor). |
Just don't let them watch the BBC for free. | |
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| Conservative manifesto on 19:37 - Nov 24 with 2320 views | Bluefish |
The lack of opposition will mean that it is enough to win by 42 though |  |
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| Conservative manifesto on 19:38 - Nov 24 with 2315 views | BackToRussia |
Was watching a doc on WWII the other day. It said Goebbels had this idea of a big lie. You could get people to believe anything as long as it was simple, all encompassing and what people wanted to hear (or was emotionally appealing). You then condense it into a few slogans and repeat them ad nauseum until people were pummeled into believing it. "Get Brexit done" did leap to mind. |  |
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| Conservative manifesto on 19:39 - Nov 24 with 2312 views | WD19 |
It’s certainly and predictably a ‘safety first’ one. Like others have said, they are clearly keen to avoid controversy and I guess, unlike some of the other parties, there is a very real possibility they will have to deliver an undiluted version of what they promise - which lends itself to pragmatism. |  | | |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:43 - Nov 24 with 2262 views | Herbivore |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:39 - Nov 24 by WD19 |
It’s certainly and predictably a ‘safety first’ one. Like others have said, they are clearly keen to avoid controversy and I guess, unlike some of the other parties, there is a very real possibility they will have to deliver an undiluted version of what they promise - which lends itself to pragmatism. |
It's not even pragmatic per se, it's totally devoid of substance. Of the few commitments made, a number are incredibly vague and light on specific detail. And none of their spending commitments are costed, they want to spend more whilst not raising any taxes for anyone. Labour wouldn't get away with that. | |
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| Conservative manifesto on 19:49 - Nov 24 with 2237 views | homer_123 |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:39 - Nov 24 by WD19 |
It’s certainly and predictably a ‘safety first’ one. Like others have said, they are clearly keen to avoid controversy and I guess, unlike some of the other parties, there is a very real possibility they will have to deliver an undiluted version of what they promise - which lends itself to pragmatism. |
How will they address..
Backwards social mobility
Fewer and fewer people controlling the wealth
Chronic NHS underfunding
Social care
Police, Education etc.
On initial inspection that manifesto is very little if anything over and above a sticking plaster. | |
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| Conservative manifesto on 19:50 - Nov 24 with 2231 views | jimmyvet |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:43 - Nov 24 by Herbivore |
It's not even pragmatic per se, it's totally devoid of substance. Of the few commitments made, a number are incredibly vague and light on specific detail. And none of their spending commitments are costed, they want to spend more whilst not raising any taxes for anyone. Labour wouldn't get away with that. |
Schocker H thinks the Tories manifesto is pants! Never saw that one coming. |  | | |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:51 - Nov 24 with 2222 views | homer_123 |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:43 - Nov 24 by Herbivore |
It's not even pragmatic per se, it's totally devoid of substance. Of the few commitments made, a number are incredibly vague and light on specific detail. And none of their spending commitments are costed, they want to spend more whilst not raising any taxes for anyone. Labour wouldn't get away with that. |
Trickle down economics innit. | |
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| Conservative manifesto on 19:51 - Nov 24 with 2215 views | Herbivore |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:50 - Nov 24 by jimmyvet |
Schocker H thinks the Tories manifesto is pants! Never saw that one coming. |
Great input. What are your thoughts on it? | |
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| Conservative manifesto on 19:51 - Nov 24 with 2206 views | m14_blue |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:50 - Nov 24 by jimmyvet |
Schocker H thinks the Tories manifesto is pants! Never saw that one coming. |
What does J think of it? | | | |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:52 - Nov 24 with 2199 views | homer_123 |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:50 - Nov 24 by jimmyvet |
Schocker H thinks the Tories manifesto is pants! Never saw that one coming. |
Genuine question. Given the current state of our country and society, how does the Tory manifesto deal and address this? | |
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| Conservative manifesto on 19:52 - Nov 24 with 2197 views | BackToRussia |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:51 - Nov 24 by m14_blue |
What does J think of it? |
Jeremy Corbyn didn't write it, so jimmy's a pretty big fan. | |
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| Conservative manifesto on 19:54 - Nov 24 with 2172 views | J2BLUE |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:28 - Nov 24 by Herbivore |
Their campaign isn't at all. They're just desperately trying not to score any massive own goals and sticking to the two lines of "Get Brexit done" and "Boo, Labour, boo!!!". That's it. That's the entirety of their GE campaign really. Their backers in the press are doing a grand job of selling it too, their lead in the polls is somehow holding or, in some polls, increasing. This country is inhabited largely by turkeys who happily vote for Xmas. [Post edited 24 Nov 2019 19:36]
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Genuine question - in your opinion, does any blame lie with Corbyn and co for being ineffective or is it entirely down to the media painting a picture and enough of the public being dumb enough to fall for it? |  |
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| Conservative manifesto on 19:54 - Nov 24 with 2167 views | m14_blue |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:52 - Nov 24 by BackToRussia |
Jeremy Corbyn didn't write it, so jimmy's a pretty big fan. |
I nearly added that I'd prefer it if the reply wasn't all about Corbyn but figured that would just make the chances of any reply at all even more unlikely. | | | |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:55 - Nov 24 with 2160 views | homer_123 |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:28 - Nov 24 by Herbivore |
Their campaign isn't at all. They're just desperately trying not to score any massive own goals and sticking to the two lines of "Get Brexit done" and "Boo, Labour, boo!!!". That's it. That's the entirety of their GE campaign really. Their backers in the press are doing a grand job of selling it too, their lead in the polls is somehow holding or, in some polls, increasing. This country is inhabited largely by turkeys who happily vote for Xmas. [Post edited 24 Nov 2019 19:36]
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I guess they feel...and possibly correctly, that they dont need to do anything.
I'm struggling to understand how anyone can vote Tory.
Corbyn is far from appeing on face value granted but are people that scared or blind that they'd vote Tory?
They called the referendum, to deal with an internal issue...were among enough to consider they knew the outcome. Have then implemented a damaging austerity approach whilst failing to deliver Brexit etc etc.
Madness. | |
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| Conservative manifesto on 19:56 - Nov 24 with 2139 views | jaykay |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:50 - Nov 24 by jimmyvet |
Schocker H thinks the Tories manifesto is pants! Never saw that one coming. |
but we all knew you were coming. |  |
| forensic experts say footers and spruces fingerprints were not found at the scene after the weekends rows |
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| Conservative manifesto on 19:56 - Nov 24 with 2139 views | Herbivore |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:54 - Nov 24 by J2BLUE |
Genuine question - in your opinion, does any blame lie with Corbyn and co for being ineffective or is it entirely down to the media painting a picture and enough of the public being dumb enough to fall for it? |
What specifically is ineffective about Labour in your opinion? They are offering a genuine alternative that is designed to make society fairer. I think you need to make it clear what you mean by Labour being ineffective before I can answer your question. | |
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| Conservative manifesto on 19:57 - Nov 24 with 2132 views | m14_blue |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:55 - Nov 24 by homer_123 |
I guess they feel...and possibly correctly, that they dont need to do anything.
I'm struggling to understand how anyone can vote Tory.
Corbyn is far from appeing on face value granted but are people that scared or blind that they'd vote Tory?
They called the referendum, to deal with an internal issue...were among enough to consider they knew the outcome. Have then implemented a damaging austerity approach whilst failing to deliver Brexit etc etc.
Madness. |
Pretty much where I'm at.
Still not in the least convinced by Corbyn and incredibly frustrated that he has offered such feeble opposition to a catastrophic Government.
But I just can't see how any normal person (ultra rich excluded) could even consider voting Tory. It's just bonkers. | | | |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:58 - Nov 24 with 2129 views | homer_123 |
| Conservative manifesto on 19:54 - Nov 24 by J2BLUE |
Genuine question - in your opinion, does any blame lie with Corbyn and co for being ineffective or is it entirely down to the media painting a picture and enough of the public being dumb enough to fall for it? |
It's both isnt it J2?
Corbyn is far from appealing...agreed. But the Tories should be disbanded for what they have done to this country. Yet.. here we are...people seem happy to blindly continue to vote for them. I'm still struggling on who to vote for. The Tory manifesto doesnt address any major issues facing this Country...at leadtvLabours tries even if it might be a tad nuts in places. | |
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| Conservative manifesto on 19:58 - Nov 24 with 2133 views | LankHenners |
And I'm sure this is probably fine.
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