So any US trade deal then 10:27 - Nov 27 with 2962 views | Steve_M | Corbyn claiming he has leaked documents which detail how thew UK intends to accept US demands.
And as a genuine trade expert writes:
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So any US trade deal then on 10:32 - Nov 27 with 1594 views | Herbivore | This should be the end of Johnson and the Tories, not only have they lied but they are heading towards destroying the NHS. It won't make a jot of difference though, sadly. | |
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So any US trade deal then on 10:36 - Nov 27 with 1585 views | giant_stow | Hope this helps turn things around. | |
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So any US trade deal then on 10:37 - Nov 27 with 1584 views | SomethingBlue |
So any US trade deal then on 10:32 - Nov 27 by Herbivore | This should be the end of Johnson and the Tories, not only have they lied but they are heading towards destroying the NHS. It won't make a jot of difference though, sadly. |
The problem is that if it comes from Corbyn's mouth then many, many people will just edit it out. And I get that ... but what an appalling state to be in. | |
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So any US trade deal then on 10:38 - Nov 27 with 1575 views | chicoazul | Anyone who doesn't think the NHS would be "on the table" in trade talks with anyone, anywhere, but especially the USA, is insane. | |
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So any US trade deal then on 10:42 - Nov 27 with 1559 views | JakeITFC | Should be a national scandal but presumably won’t be because the IRA and Marxism or whatever. | | | |
So any US trade deal then on 10:43 - Nov 27 with 1553 views | Guthrum |
So any US trade deal then on 10:38 - Nov 27 by chicoazul | Anyone who doesn't think the NHS would be "on the table" in trade talks with anyone, anywhere, but especially the USA, is insane. |
Indeed, how many other saleable assets do we have? | |
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So any US trade deal then on 10:45 - Nov 27 with 1544 views | StokieBlue | Rubbish from the Tories once again. Going to assume the documents are genuine in which case Boris has rather a lot of explaining to do. Again. SB [Post edited 27 Nov 2019 10:46]
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So any US trade deal then on 10:46 - Nov 27 with 1534 views | factual_blue | Can't see matt hanCOCK turning up on my doorstep any time soon then. | |
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So any US trade deal then on 10:51 - Nov 27 with 1510 views | flimflam |
So any US trade deal then on 10:45 - Nov 27 by StokieBlue | Rubbish from the Tories once again. Going to assume the documents are genuine in which case Boris has rather a lot of explaining to do. Again. SB [Post edited 27 Nov 2019 10:46]
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Has anyone actually seen or read the contents yet before having a meltdown? | |
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So any US trade deal then on 10:52 - Nov 27 with 1509 views | JakeITFC |
So any US trade deal then on 10:38 - Nov 27 by chicoazul | Anyone who doesn't think the NHS would be "on the table" in trade talks with anyone, anywhere, but especially the USA, is insane. |
The problem with this argument is that the public, in voting for brexit, weren’t knowingly voting for a trade deal with the USA in which our health service would be a very lucrative pawn. A huge chain of shiitheads dominoes were set off with that core unknowingly. These documents (if as stated) go some way to showing that this was a planned part of the game - it’s just not on and as such this should be very public knowledge. | | | |
So any US trade deal then on 10:57 - Nov 27 with 1489 views | Guthrum |
So any US trade deal then on 10:51 - Nov 27 by flimflam | Has anyone actually seen or read the contents yet before having a meltdown? |
The fact that a government which categorically denies the NHS will be on the table in any trade deal has been actively negotiating with that as a bargaining chip is bad enough, whatever the substance of any agreements. | |
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So any US trade deal then on 10:57 - Nov 27 with 1483 views | StokieBlue |
So any US trade deal then on 10:51 - Nov 27 by flimflam | Has anyone actually seen or read the contents yet before having a meltdown? |
Nobody is having a meltdown. I've said if it's genuine and describes what has been written then he has some explaining to do. You don't agree that is the case? SB | |
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So any US trade deal then on 10:59 - Nov 27 with 1458 views | chicoazul |
So any US trade deal then on 10:43 - Nov 27 by Guthrum | Indeed, how many other saleable assets do we have? |
Exactly. And yet people still think it magically wont happen. | |
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So any US trade deal then on 10:59 - Nov 27 with 1461 views | DanTheMan |
So any US trade deal then on 10:45 - Nov 27 by StokieBlue | Rubbish from the Tories once again. Going to assume the documents are genuine in which case Boris has rather a lot of explaining to do. Again. SB [Post edited 27 Nov 2019 10:46]
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But we all know it won't matter, because lies don't actually make a difference any more. He could be filmed mugging someone at knife point and it wouldn't make a difference. | |
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So any US trade deal then on 11:01 - Nov 27 with 1445 views | chicoazul |
So any US trade deal then on 10:52 - Nov 27 by JakeITFC | The problem with this argument is that the public, in voting for brexit, weren’t knowingly voting for a trade deal with the USA in which our health service would be a very lucrative pawn. A huge chain of shiitheads dominoes were set off with that core unknowingly. These documents (if as stated) go some way to showing that this was a planned part of the game - it’s just not on and as such this should be very public knowledge. |
It should be you're right. But it is very very obvious to anyone with half a brain that the NHS, as Guthrum says one of our very few remaining assets, would of course be on the table post-Brexit. People just didnt think it through. | |
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So any US trade deal then on 11:02 - Nov 27 with 1430 views | StokieBlue |
So any US trade deal then on 10:59 - Nov 27 by DanTheMan | But we all know it won't matter, because lies don't actually make a difference any more. He could be filmed mugging someone at knife point and it wouldn't make a difference. |
Unfortunately this seems to be the case for most sides on most subjects. Depressing isn't it. SB [Post edited 27 Nov 2019 11:03]
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So any US trade deal then on 11:07 - Nov 27 with 1390 views | flimflam |
So any US trade deal then on 10:57 - Nov 27 by StokieBlue | Nobody is having a meltdown. I've said if it's genuine and describes what has been written then he has some explaining to do. You don't agree that is the case? SB |
Which I totally agree with. No doubt the entire document will be pulled apart in the next 24 hours by all sides so will wait and see how it all falls but sounds like a massive own goal if what is being claimed is in fact true. | |
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So any US trade deal then on 11:09 - Nov 27 with 1377 views | homer_123 |
So any US trade deal then on 10:45 - Nov 27 by StokieBlue | Rubbish from the Tories once again. Going to assume the documents are genuine in which case Boris has rather a lot of explaining to do. Again. SB [Post edited 27 Nov 2019 10:46]
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And yet it'll be deflected and people will be moved onto something else. | |
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So any US trade deal then on 11:10 - Nov 27 with 1374 views | homer_123 |
So any US trade deal then on 10:32 - Nov 27 by Herbivore | This should be the end of Johnson and the Tories, not only have they lied but they are heading towards destroying the NHS. It won't make a jot of difference though, sadly. |
No offence Herbs but the end of the Tories should have come a long time ago. The fact of the matter is - they'll end up with a sodding majority. | |
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So any US trade deal then on 11:10 - Nov 27 with 1369 views | BloomBlue |
So any US trade deal then on 10:38 - Nov 27 by chicoazul | Anyone who doesn't think the NHS would be "on the table" in trade talks with anyone, anywhere, but especially the USA, is insane. |
I don't have a problem with it, if we can get the same quality of drugs cheaper from the US which saves the NHS money I'm all for it. We're stuck in a non radical world, Germans, Dutch people seem very very happy with their health service which is very much private/public. I've always felt we should look at all options. | | | |
So any US trade deal then on 11:12 - Nov 27 with 1356 views | DanTheMan |
So any US trade deal then on 11:02 - Nov 27 by StokieBlue | Unfortunately this seems to be the case for most sides on most subjects. Depressing isn't it. SB [Post edited 27 Nov 2019 11:03]
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I'm not sure that's entirely true. Sure, some people will do the same for Corbyn but you only need to look at the front pages of the newspaper to see he certainly gets a fair share of criticism. I'd say the same also goes for Swinson. Maybe that's my own bias though. | |
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So any US trade deal then on 11:15 - Nov 27 with 1338 views | lowhouseblue | reallysorry to link to guido, but it does look as if the documents don't say what corbyn alleges. ignore the source and read the content. https://order-order.com/2019/11/27/corbyns-redacted-negotiation-documents-dont-m | |
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So any US trade deal then on 11:15 - Nov 27 with 1332 views | footers |
So any US trade deal then on 11:10 - Nov 27 by BloomBlue | I don't have a problem with it, if we can get the same quality of drugs cheaper from the US which saves the NHS money I'm all for it. We're stuck in a non radical world, Germans, Dutch people seem very very happy with their health service which is very much private/public. I've always felt we should look at all options. |
Looking at all the options is certainly wise, but choosing, by far, the most expensive of them would be madness. You only have to look at how big pharma operates in the States to see what would happen here too. | |
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So any US trade deal then on 11:15 - Nov 27 with 1335 views | Steve_M | Labour may have overplayed the NHS aspects of this but there are other areas of concern:
That Johnson is keen on maximum divergence from the EU points in the same direction: deregulation and lower food and safety standards. | |
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