| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. 08:45 - Dec 12 with 1795 views | Pinewoodblue |
No falsehoods, no fake news.
Just a reminder that even if your vote isn’t going to make difference just do it. VOTE |  |
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 08:46 - Dec 12 with 1282 views | Kropotkin123 |
No. I refuse to vote for things that I don't believe in. |  |
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 08:47 - Dec 12 with 1278 views | itfcjoe |
Too many people have given up too much for someone to not be bothered to go to the ballot box and put a tick in a box |  |
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 08:51 - Dec 12 with 1247 views | Darth_Koont |
| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 08:46 - Dec 12 by Kropotkin123 |
No. I refuse to vote for things that I don't believe in. |
I respect that.
I think our fetishization of voting while not being that interested in actual day-to-day democracy is a little silly and self-defeating. |  |
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 08:53 - Dec 12 with 1235 views | SaleAway |
| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 08:46 - Dec 12 by Kropotkin123 |
No. I refuse to vote for things that I don't believe in. |
turn up and spoil your ballot then....
one of the things we need is a "none of the above" option, but its only by spoiling ballots, that the discrepancy between turnout and valid votes will start to be noticed...
if you don't turn up, then they think you just don't care.... |  |
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 08:54 - Dec 12 with 1227 views | Kropotkin123 |
| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 08:47 - Dec 12 by itfcjoe |
Too many people have given up too much for someone to not be bothered to go to the ballot box and put a tick in a box |
I wouldn't do them the disservice of assuming they gave up things to achieve this. [Post edited 12 Dec 2019 8:55]
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 08:54 - Dec 12 with 1225 views | hampstead_blue |
Definitely the first time I've voted whilst pinching my nose.
Not very pleasant. |  |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
| | Poll: | Best Blackpool goal |
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 08:57 - Dec 12 with 1200 views | Pinewoodblue |
| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 08:54 - Dec 12 by hampstead_blue |
Definitely the first time I've voted whilst pinching my nose.
Not very pleasant. |
Agreed but it has to be done. | |
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 08:58 - Dec 12 with 1200 views | Kropotkin123 |
| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 08:53 - Dec 12 by SaleAway |
turn up and spoil your ballot then....
one of the things we need is a "none of the above" option, but its only by spoiling ballots, that the discrepancy between turnout and valid votes will start to be noticed...
if you don't turn up, then they think you just don't care.... |
I don't care if they think I care or not. It a fallacy to think it makes a difference to how they act. They will try and go after my vote next time whether I vote or not. | |
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:00 - Dec 12 with 1191 views | GeoffSentence |
| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 08:53 - Dec 12 by SaleAway |
turn up and spoil your ballot then....
one of the things we need is a "none of the above" option, but its only by spoiling ballots, that the discrepancy between turnout and valid votes will start to be noticed...
if you don't turn up, then they think you just don't care.... |
Not voting is a valid statement, so as long as you are registered to vote.
A low turnout shows that people are not invested in the system and the system needs to be changed. If you spoil your vote you will still be counted in the turnout figures and the world will believe that everything is hunky-dory because people are turning up to vote.
By the way, telling people to vote IS preaching. [Post edited 12 Dec 2019 9:02]
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:06 - Dec 12 with 1161 views | brazil1982 |
| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 08:46 - Dec 12 by Kropotkin123 |
No. I refuse to vote for things that I don't believe in. |
Vote for an Independent? | | | |
| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:14 - Dec 12 with 1134 views | SaleAway |
| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:00 - Dec 12 by GeoffSentence |
Not voting is a valid statement, so as long as you are registered to vote.
A low turnout shows that people are not invested in the system and the system needs to be changed. If you spoil your vote you will still be counted in the turnout figures and the world will believe that everything is hunky-dory because people are turning up to vote.
By the way, telling people to vote IS preaching. [Post edited 12 Dec 2019 9:02]
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I disagree. There are any number of reasons that you may have been unable to vote - sick on the day - stuck in traffic, family emergency...
if you turn up and spoil that makes a definitive point....
I'd also say this:
Voting isn't marriage - you're not looking for the perfect match - its a bus - you get on the one that's going closest to where you want to go.
edited: yes - I know this is preaching... [Post edited 12 Dec 2019 9:14]
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:17 - Dec 12 with 1108 views | GeoffSentence |
| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:14 - Dec 12 by SaleAway |
I disagree. There are any number of reasons that you may have been unable to vote - sick on the day - stuck in traffic, family emergency...
if you turn up and spoil that makes a definitive point....
I'd also say this:
Voting isn't marriage - you're not looking for the perfect match - its a bus - you get on the one that's going closest to where you want to go.
edited: yes - I know this is preaching... [Post edited 12 Dec 2019 9:14]
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No I'd not say you were preaching, My point about telling people to vote being preaching was aimed at Piney in his OP, as he started off saying he wasn't preaching and then ended by instructing people to vote. | |
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:19 - Dec 12 with 1103 views | Pinewoodblue |
| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:17 - Dec 12 by GeoffSentence |
No I'd not say you were preaching, My point about telling people to vote being preaching was aimed at Piney in his OP, as he started off saying he wasn't preaching and then ended by instructing people to vote. |
And a point well made sir. | |
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:21 - Dec 12 with 1094 views | chicoazul |
| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 08:46 - Dec 12 by Kropotkin123 |
No. I refuse to vote for things that I don't believe in. |
Exactly right. This is what people should reflect on. |  |
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:22 - Dec 12 with 1088 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 08:54 - Dec 12 by hampstead_blue |
Definitely the first time I've voted whilst pinching my nose.
Not very pleasant. |
"They died that we might settle for mediocrity !" |  |
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:22 - Dec 12 with 1086 views | GeoffSentence |
| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:19 - Dec 12 by Pinewoodblue |
And a point well made sir. |
Thank you. You are a gentleman and a scholar. | |
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:25 - Dec 12 with 1070 views | Pinewoodblue |
| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:22 - Dec 12 by GeoffSentence |
Thank you. You are a gentleman and a scholar. |
Let’s hope we can all be nice to each other after 10pm this evening.
That maybe wishful thinking. | |
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:29 - Dec 12 with 1065 views | GeoffSentence |
| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:25 - Dec 12 by Pinewoodblue |
Let’s hope we can all be nice to each other after 10pm this evening.
That maybe wishful thinking. |
Graciousness in victory, magnanimity in defeat. I have high hopes for TWTD, it is a generally decent space. | |
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:30 - Dec 12 with 1056 views | SaleAway |
| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:29 - Dec 12 by GeoffSentence |
Graciousness in victory, magnanimity in defeat. I have high hopes for TWTD, it is a generally decent space. |
to be fair - even if we win, I'm still going to complain that we didn't play very well, should have been beating these opposition by more, and that the team rotation is a bad idea ;-) | |
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:32 - Dec 12 with 1050 views | hampstead_blue |
| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 08:57 - Dec 12 by Pinewoodblue |
Agreed but it has to be done. |
I know and I shall turn-up with my nostrils stuffed with tissue. It's a good look you know!!! | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
| | Poll: | Best Blackpool goal |
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:32 - Dec 12 with 1048 views | Pinewoodblue |
| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:29 - Dec 12 by GeoffSentence |
Graciousness in victory, magnanimity in defeat. I have high hopes for TWTD, it is a generally decent space. |
Someone is sure to post, in frustration , “ you lost get over it” | |
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:33 - Dec 12 with 1045 views | hampstead_blue |
| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:22 - Dec 12 by BanksterDebtSlave |
"They died that we might settle for mediocrity !" |
Who said that? I've never heard it.
It's a sad state of affairs.
Peace and love. | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
| | Poll: | Best Blackpool goal |
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:34 - Dec 12 with 1040 views | Kropotkin123 |
| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:14 - Dec 12 by SaleAway |
I disagree. There are any number of reasons that you may have been unable to vote - sick on the day - stuck in traffic, family emergency...
if you turn up and spoil that makes a definitive point....
I'd also say this:
Voting isn't marriage - you're not looking for the perfect match - its a bus - you get on the one that's going closest to where you want to go.
edited: yes - I know this is preaching... [Post edited 12 Dec 2019 9:14]
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Okay... it's a bus.
Currently, all the buses are heading in the opposite direction to where I want to go.
I'm not going to invest my time in getting on them.
If you want to get on a bus that takes you 10 stops further away from where you are looking to end up, that is your choice.
But I think it gives you less right to complain when you see the distance you have to travel at the start of the next election... | |
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:41 - Dec 12 with 1026 views | Kropotkin123 |
"Just a reminder that even if your vote isn’t going to make difference just do it. VOTE"
From a slightly different angle. I think it is sad that we implicitly recognise that some people's votes don't make a difference.
It is indicative of the system that fails its citizens at the core fundamental principle of democracy that each vote should be equal in worth. It clearly isn't. [Post edited 12 Dec 2019 9:42]
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| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:42 - Dec 12 with 1019 views | noggin |
| No preaching involved in the writing of this post. on 09:34 - Dec 12 by Kropotkin123 |
Okay... it's a bus.
Currently, all the buses are heading in the opposite direction to where I want to go.
I'm not going to invest my time in getting on them.
If you want to get on a bus that takes you 10 stops further away from where you are looking to end up, that is your choice.
But I think it gives you less right to complain when you see the distance you have to travel at the start of the next election... |
So as someone else said, vote for an independent candidate. There are no buses but they'll give you the directions so you can walk. |  |
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