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Ken Livingstone 07:58 - Dec 13 with 2001 viewsGlasgowBlue

Vile.

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Ken Livingstone on 07:59 - Dec 13 with 1306 viewswkj

Consistent though

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Ken Livingstone on 08:00 - Dec 13 with 1310 viewsStokieBlue

What's he done now?

Caused quite an argument last time I made that point.

Edit: I see now. Exactly what you'd expect from him.

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Ken Livingstone on 08:01 - Dec 13 with 1295 viewstractordownsouth

That's one area re:anti- semitism that we agree. I couldn't believe that he was the one moaning about the issue not being dealt with. He's the biggest anti- semite in the party.

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Ken Livingstone on 08:03 - Dec 13 with 1269 viewsBlueBadger

Ken Livingstone on 08:00 - Dec 13 by StokieBlue

What's he done now?

Caused quite an argument last time I made that point.

Edit: I see now. Exactly what you'd expect from him.

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[Post edited 13 Dec 2019 8:01]


I'm sure somebody will be along in a minute to tell us how 'it was all a Jewish conspiracy' isn't in any wasy anti-semitic, it's just criticism of the Israeli government.

These people are called idiots and BB is their leader.
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Ken Livingstone on 08:04 - Dec 13 with 1260 viewsBlueBadger

Ken Livingstone on 08:01 - Dec 13 by tractordownsouth

That's one area re:anti- semitism that we agree. I couldn't believe that he was the one moaning about the issue not being dealt with. He's the biggest anti- semite in the party.


And emblematic of the utterly inept way the Dear Leader has handled things both on this issue and in general. In stead of coming out firmly, making a stand and making an example of him, he was allowed to quietly slither away on his own terms, with his head held high.

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Ken Livingstone on 08:07 - Dec 13 with 1255 viewstractordownsouth

Ken Livingstone on 08:04 - Dec 13 by BlueBadger

And emblematic of the utterly inept way the Dear Leader has handled things both on this issue and in general. In stead of coming out firmly, making a stand and making an example of him, he was allowed to quietly slither away on his own terms, with his head held high.


Yeah. Like I said, I've defended accusations against Corbyn being an anti semite himself as I'm not sure there's concrete evidence for it, but Livingstone should have been kicked out years ago.

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Ken Livingstone on 08:14 - Dec 13 with 1223 viewsBlueBadger

Ken Livingstone on 08:07 - Dec 13 by tractordownsouth

Yeah. Like I said, I've defended accusations against Corbyn being an anti semite himself as I'm not sure there's concrete evidence for it, but Livingstone should have been kicked out years ago.


For me, he's in the Farage camp, maybe not actually racist himself, but hanging around with too many nasty types for too long to avoid being tarred with the same brush.

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Ken Livingstone on 08:16 - Dec 13 with 1213 viewstractordownsouth

Ken Livingstone on 08:14 - Dec 13 by BlueBadger

For me, he's in the Farage camp, maybe not actually racist himself, but hanging around with too many nasty types for too long to avoid being tarred with the same brush.


Farage has said numerous racist things so I wouldn't quite put him on that level but it's all academic now. He'll be gone in a few hours.

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Ken Livingstone on 08:18 - Dec 13 with 1202 viewsBlueBadger

Ken Livingstone on 08:16 - Dec 13 by tractordownsouth

Farage has said numerous racist things so I wouldn't quite put him on that level but it's all academic now. He'll be gone in a few hours.


It's the nearest analogy I could think of to hand.
'One of those berks on here who insist they're not racist then defend Stephen Yaxley-Lennon to the hilt' would have been a lot more cack-handed.

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Ken Livingstone on 08:25 - Dec 13 with 1180 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

“The Jewish vote wasn’t very helpful. Jeremy should have tackled that issue far earlier than he did.It looks like the end for Jeremy, which is disappointing for me since I’m a close ally. I’m sure he’ll have to resign tomorrow.The ongoing issues around my suspension from the Labour Party have become a distraction from the key political issue of our time – which is to replace a Tory government overseeing falling living standards and spiralling poverty, while starving our schools and the NHS of the vital resources they need.”

....so I don't much like the bloke....but which bit is vile or even incorrect?

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Ken Livingstone on 08:27 - Dec 13 with 1170 viewsBlueBadger

Ken Livingstone on 08:25 - Dec 13 by BanksterDebtSlave

“The Jewish vote wasn’t very helpful. Jeremy should have tackled that issue far earlier than he did.It looks like the end for Jeremy, which is disappointing for me since I’m a close ally. I’m sure he’ll have to resign tomorrow.The ongoing issues around my suspension from the Labour Party have become a distraction from the key political issue of our time – which is to replace a Tory government overseeing falling living standards and spiralling poverty, while starving our schools and the NHS of the vital resources they need.”

....so I don't much like the bloke....but which bit is vile or even incorrect?


It's an astounding self-awareness failure, since he's a glowing example himself of the Dear Leader's failure to tackle the issue.

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Ken Livingstone on 08:28 - Dec 13 with 1164 viewstractordownsouth

Ken Livingstone on 08:25 - Dec 13 by BanksterDebtSlave

“The Jewish vote wasn’t very helpful. Jeremy should have tackled that issue far earlier than he did.It looks like the end for Jeremy, which is disappointing for me since I’m a close ally. I’m sure he’ll have to resign tomorrow.The ongoing issues around my suspension from the Labour Party have become a distraction from the key political issue of our time – which is to replace a Tory government overseeing falling living standards and spiralling poverty, while starving our schools and the NHS of the vital resources they need.”

....so I don't much like the bloke....but which bit is vile or even incorrect?


It's not really about that quote, it's more to do with the fact that he's saying Labour needed to deal with a problem of which he was the biggest part.

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Ken Livingstone on 08:40 - Dec 13 with 1119 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Ken Livingstone on 08:27 - Dec 13 by BlueBadger

It's an astounding self-awareness failure, since he's a glowing example himself of the Dear Leader's failure to tackle the issue.


But our resident expert called it vile...the question remains....

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Ken Livingstone on 09:15 - Dec 13 with 1068 viewsBlueBadger

Ken Livingstone on 08:40 - Dec 13 by BanksterDebtSlave

But our resident expert called it vile...the question remains....


'It was all a Jewish conspiracy' is pretty indefensible.

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Ken Livingstone on 09:17 - Dec 13 with 1057 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Ken Livingstone on 09:15 - Dec 13 by BlueBadger

'It was all a Jewish conspiracy' is pretty indefensible.


Who said that yesterday?
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Ken Livingstone on 09:28 - Dec 13 with 1033 viewsWacko

Ken Livingstone on 08:40 - Dec 13 by BanksterDebtSlave

But our resident expert called it vile...the question remains....


It's pretty much exactly the same thing he posts on this site every day. I guess that makes him also vile

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Ken Livingstone on 09:30 - Dec 13 with 1018 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Ken Livingstone on 09:28 - Dec 13 by Wacko

It's pretty much exactly the same thing he posts on this site every day. I guess that makes him also vile


I imagine the uppies he got are from people that hadn't read any quotes either.

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Ken Livingstone on 09:32 - Dec 13 with 1000 viewsSwansea_Blue

Yep vile.

Gove and his weaponizing of the issue isn't much better either. I bet the relatively few Jews in this country would like to be left alone, both from the genuine cases of antisemitism and from from constantly being told by the right that they need to be terrified.

If I was jewish, I'd be telling the lot of them to burger off.

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Ken Livingstone on 15:40 - Dec 13 with 874 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Ken Livingstone on 08:40 - Dec 13 by BanksterDebtSlave

But our resident expert called it vile...the question remains....


Still nothing Mr Glasgow?

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Ken Livingstone on 15:46 - Dec 13 with 860 viewsDarth_Koont

Ken Livingstone on 08:27 - Dec 13 by BlueBadger

It's an astounding self-awareness failure, since he's a glowing example himself of the Dear Leader's failure to tackle the issue.


I think Livingstone means more that the issue should have been tackled earlier through a stronger and more public defence against the wider charge of being an antisemitic party (while of course taking antisemitic incidents seriously and dealing with them).

So I agree with Livingstone there. But as always his borderline offensive/trolling way of making his point does him and the issue a discredit.
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Ken Livingstone on 16:58 - Dec 13 with 778 viewslowhouseblue

Ken Livingstone on 15:46 - Dec 13 by Darth_Koont

I think Livingstone means more that the issue should have been tackled earlier through a stronger and more public defence against the wider charge of being an antisemitic party (while of course taking antisemitic incidents seriously and dealing with them).

So I agree with Livingstone there. But as always his borderline offensive/trolling way of making his point does him and the issue a discredit.


so the problem was not denying it strongly enough. jeez.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Ken Livingstone on 17:02 - Dec 13 with 763 viewsLord_Lucan

Ken Livingstone on 08:25 - Dec 13 by BanksterDebtSlave

“The Jewish vote wasn’t very helpful. Jeremy should have tackled that issue far earlier than he did.It looks like the end for Jeremy, which is disappointing for me since I’m a close ally. I’m sure he’ll have to resign tomorrow.The ongoing issues around my suspension from the Labour Party have become a distraction from the key political issue of our time – which is to replace a Tory government overseeing falling living standards and spiralling poverty, while starving our schools and the NHS of the vital resources they need.”

....so I don't much like the bloke....but which bit is vile or even incorrect?


Same same

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Ken Livingstone on 17:09 - Dec 13 with 732 viewsDarth_Koont

Ken Livingstone on 16:58 - Dec 13 by lowhouseblue

so the problem was not denying it strongly enough. jeez.


Absolutely. The narrative has been characterised by smeary accusations, not the incidents of antisemitism or the actual level across the party.

Expecting that the truth would win out was a naive approach. Meanwhile it let the Tories completely off the hook for their worse record on racism (incidents and the handling of them, not to mention policies).

When the Labour Party just doesn't have the media platform of the Tories (or even the accusers themselves) they needed to be a LOT louder on this.
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Ken Livingstone on 17:14 - Dec 13 with 696 viewslowhouseblue

Ken Livingstone on 17:09 - Dec 13 by Darth_Koont

Absolutely. The narrative has been characterised by smeary accusations, not the incidents of antisemitism or the actual level across the party.

Expecting that the truth would win out was a naive approach. Meanwhile it let the Tories completely off the hook for their worse record on racism (incidents and the handling of them, not to mention policies).

When the Labour Party just doesn't have the media platform of the Tories (or even the accusers themselves) they needed to be a LOT louder on this.


you really are a one track, obsessed loon.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Ken Livingstone on 17:16 - Dec 13 with 687 viewsDarth_Koont

Ken Livingstone on 17:14 - Dec 13 by lowhouseblue

you really are a one track, obsessed loon.


Coming from you that's laughable.

I look at the evidence. You dodge the evidence.
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