| Corners - what is our thinking on these? 01:05 - Dec 27 with 1118 views | hoppy |
When we get a corner:
a) why do we so often struggle to beat the first or second defender?
b) why do we never have anyone deep, in case of any knock ons, to be able to quickly put the ball back in from the other side?
When defending a corner:
Why do we always bring absolutely everyone back without leaving anyone in a more advanced position up the pitch to enable a quick break out?
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| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 01:16 - Dec 27 with 1099 views | WicklowBlue |
When did we last have a decent corner setup? Been kicking the ball into the head of the first defender for decades. |  | | |
| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 01:44 - Dec 27 with 1071 views | blueconscience |
| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 01:16 - Dec 27 by WicklowBlue |
When did we last have a decent corner setup? Been kicking the ball into the head of the first defender for decades. |
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| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 01:46 - Dec 27 with 1072 views | StNeotsBlue |
Your last point about having everyone back for corners, it makes my head hurt totally counter productive and is nonsense we seem have stuck with since the Keane days. |  | | |
| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 02:06 - Dec 27 with 1051 views | lmfcblue |
Yep absolute shambles from corners for and against |  | | |
| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 02:32 - Dec 27 with 1038 views | Stenvict |
Stick Holy in goal.
Leave Jackson on the halfway line when defending corners.
Get Holy to attempt to catch the ball, quickly throw it out to Jackson who hopefully has acres of space to first take the 10 minutes or so he needs to control the ball, then sprint towards goal and fingers crossed by this time he's used his pace to get 1 on 1. Hopefully Norwood isn't up there to give him an option when he needs to just shoot.
Instead, what we are doing if our GK, whoever it is, catches the ball, we tend to hang onto it and allow the opposition to get their shape back and we're back to square one of trying to walk the ball in starting from the back.
It's infuriating | |
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| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 08:39 - Dec 27 with 909 views | IpswichKnight |
| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 01:44 - Dec 27 by blueconscience |
Neil Thompson |
Waghorn? Used to fire them in, some did hit the first defender but those that didn't were often headed either, slightly over, on target or even scored from. We've scored I think only one from a corner this season, from a El-Miz corner at Posh, before and since then we've looked about as likely to score from one as I have about scoring with Taylor Swift! | | | |
| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 09:04 - Dec 27 with 891 views | factual_blue |
They are a necessary and well-established part of establishing the cause of death in appropriate cases.
I didn't realise they were in any way controversial.
Oh - sorry I thought you said 'coroners'. |  |
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| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 09:08 - Dec 27 with 878 views | hoppy |
| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 09:04 - Dec 27 by factual_blue |
They are a necessary and well-established part of establishing the cause of death in appropriate cases.
I didn't realise they were in any way controversial.
Oh - sorry I thought you said 'coroners'. |
I guess for some, they’re more likely to be in attendance with a successful coroner than to see a successful corner...
But at least we know you’re still with us presently. | |
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| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 09:10 - Dec 27 with 868 views | textbackup |
our corners are pathetic.
when we defend its a shambles that Jackson isn't left up top |  |
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| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 09:11 - Dec 27 with 861 views | factual_blue |
| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 09:08 - Dec 27 by hoppy |
I guess for some, they’re more likely to be in attendance with a successful coroner than to see a successful corner...
But at least we know you’re still with us presently. |
It's only a matter of time. | |
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| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 09:12 - Dec 27 with 859 views | Swansea_Blue |
(a) is the curse of Leadbitter. Exorcism would sort that out, def info.
It’s amazing how many players can’t take a decent set piece. Even if the PL you see loads of corners fail to beat the first man. And I don’t mean attempted near post flick ons, just rubbish corners. |  |
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| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 09:20 - Dec 27 with 834 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 02:06 - Dec 27 by lmfcblue |
Yep absolute shambles from corners for and against |
Against? We’ve only conceded 2 goals from set pieces this season. Equal lowest in the division. |  |
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| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 09:23 - Dec 27 with 822 views | hoppy |
| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 09:11 - Dec 27 by factual_blue |
It's only a matter of time. |
Shame we can’t say the same about the corners... | |
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| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 09:25 - Dec 27 with 814 views | hoppy |
| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 09:20 - Dec 27 by WestStanderLaLaLa |
Against? We’ve only conceded 2 goals from set pieces this season. Equal lowest in the division. |
How many chances have we created from a quick break after successfully defending a corner against by having someone further upfield? | |
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| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 09:41 - Dec 27 with 783 views | rfretwell |
| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 09:25 - Dec 27 by hoppy |
How many chances have we created from a quick break after successfully defending a corner against by having someone further upfield? |
Gillingham left a striker up front during our corners. Also we had no defender on either post during theirs. We seem to be getting away with that with the poor strikers in this league. | | | |
| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 09:45 - Dec 27 with 771 views | Bluebell |
| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 02:32 - Dec 27 by Stenvict |
Stick Holy in goal.
Leave Jackson on the halfway line when defending corners.
Get Holy to attempt to catch the ball, quickly throw it out to Jackson who hopefully has acres of space to first take the 10 minutes or so he needs to control the ball, then sprint towards goal and fingers crossed by this time he's used his pace to get 1 on 1. Hopefully Norwood isn't up there to give him an option when he needs to just shoot.
Instead, what we are doing if our GK, whoever it is, catches the ball, we tend to hang onto it and allow the opposition to get their shape back and we're back to square one of trying to walk the ball in starting from the back.
It's infuriating |
Well said.
This has been my gripe for years. Other teams do it, why can't we? It's not as if the short players make any difference at corners.
The keeper holding onto the ball really annoys me. He (both Norris and Holy) stand holding the ball watching all the opposing players get back into position before hoofing it up the pitch. Invarably it goes to an opposing player, their keeper or out of play!
As for 'our' corners. Why can't we have players with the talent of Tommy Smith and Christoph Berra who could get up high and flick the ball into the net. If it goes past the first man it either goes to the keeper or so far past the goal that the players are nowhere near it! |  | | |
| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 09:49 - Dec 27 with 761 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 09:25 - Dec 27 by hoppy |
How many chances have we created from a quick break after successfully defending a corner against by having someone further upfield? |
None because we don’t leave anyone upfield. I’m not unopposed to leaving someone up front but We’re hardly alone in bringing everyone back and the stats show we defend corners well. Peterborough have scored most goals on the counterattack with 4. No idea if any are from corners defended but it’s hardly a rich seam of goal opportunity we’re missing out on. Many more important issues to address rather than this. | |
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| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 10:01 - Dec 27 with 728 views | hoppy |
| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 09:45 - Dec 27 by Bluebell |
Well said.
This has been my gripe for years. Other teams do it, why can't we? It's not as if the short players make any difference at corners.
The keeper holding onto the ball really annoys me. He (both Norris and Holy) stand holding the ball watching all the opposing players get back into position before hoofing it up the pitch. Invarably it goes to an opposing player, their keeper or out of play!
As for 'our' corners. Why can't we have players with the talent of Tommy Smith and Christoph Berra who could get up high and flick the ball into the net. If it goes past the first man it either goes to the keeper or so far past the goal that the players are nowhere near it! |
Exactly... that’s often been the case where, if the ball does go beyond the first or second man or gets flicked on, we’re so narrow that there’s nobody out beyond the goal to whip it back in . | |
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| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 10:12 - Dec 27 with 720 views | hoppy |
| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 09:49 - Dec 27 by WestStanderLaLaLa |
None because we don’t leave anyone upfield. I’m not unopposed to leaving someone up front but We’re hardly alone in bringing everyone back and the stats show we defend corners well. Peterborough have scored most goals on the counterattack with 4. No idea if any are from corners defended but it’s hardly a rich seam of goal opportunity we’re missing out on. Many more important issues to address rather than this. |
But by bringing everyone back, it’s inviting the opposition to bring more of their guys up for their corners rather than leaving some back to defend against Jackson, for example, if he were left up.
There’s more chance of ‘getting it away’ from defending a corner if we’ve got options further out to utilise more quickly. | |
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| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 10:35 - Dec 27 with 693 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
| Corners - what is our thinking on these? on 10:12 - Dec 27 by hoppy |
But by bringing everyone back, it’s inviting the opposition to bring more of their guys up for their corners rather than leaving some back to defend against Jackson, for example, if he were left up.
There’s more chance of ‘getting it away’ from defending a corner if we’ve got options further out to utilise more quickly. |
Like I said, I’m not unopposed to it. Just pointing out we defend corners well under this system. | |
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