| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? 15:26 - Jan 23 with 4762 views | PremierBlue |
I wonder who were the foresighted people responsible for bringing Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Ipswich and Portman Road? Does anyone know? |  | | |  |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 15:27 - Jan 23 with 3741 views | Illinoisblue |
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| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 15:29 - Jan 23 with 3729 views | catch74 |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 15:27 - Jan 23 by Illinoisblue |
Russell Osman |
I think you’ll find it was MM. |  |
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| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 15:30 - Jan 23 with 3726 views | PremierBlue |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 15:27 - Jan 23 by Illinoisblue |
Russell Osman |
I know he is good, but wow, didn't know he was that good for us and at such an early age. | | | |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 15:32 - Jan 23 with 3720 views | factual_blue |
The illuminati. |  |
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| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 15:38 - Jan 23 with 3710 views | Guthrum |
Shame that they would never have been in a position to own and run a top level football club in the current era, with just the money from a small regional brewery and a bit of farmland. The sport has been robbed of something, excluding people like the Cobbolds, long established in the county and involved in the club for generations. |  |
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| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 15:40 - Jan 23 with 3695 views | PremierBlue |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 15:32 - Jan 23 by factual_blue |
The illuminati. |
Same faction that brought ME? | | | |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 15:43 - Jan 23 with 3681 views | itfcjoe |
Sir Bobby was something like 3rd or 4th choice when he got the job, how different things could have been |  |
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| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 15:51 - Jan 23 with 3652 views | PremierBlue |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 15:43 - Jan 23 by itfcjoe |
Sir Bobby was something like 3rd or 4th choice when he got the job, how different things could have been |
I think maybe both Ipswich and Sir Bobby were lucky that it came through though. Some things are a good match and meant to be. | | | |
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| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 15:53 - Jan 23 with 3644 views | PJH |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 15:43 - Jan 23 by itfcjoe |
Sir Bobby was something like 3rd or 4th choice when he got the job, how different things could have been |
Yes, there is some debate as to how many people were actually offered the job as the only certainty seems to be Frank O'Farrell but there were up to three more considered before Bobby Robson was at the front of the queue. |  | | |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 15:55 - Jan 23 with 3636 views | PremierBlue |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 15:38 - Jan 23 by Guthrum |
Shame that they would never have been in a position to own and run a top level football club in the current era, with just the money from a small regional brewery and a bit of farmland. The sport has been robbed of something, excluding people like the Cobbolds, long established in the county and involved in the club for generations. |
Totally agree. The sport is not what it once was.
It was more about values and now it is about money. | | | |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 15:57 - Jan 23 with 3617 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 15:53 - Jan 23 by PJH |
Yes, there is some debate as to how many people were actually offered the job as the only certainty seems to be Frank O'Farrell but there were up to three more considered before Bobby Robson was at the front of the queue. |
Wasn't Billy Bingham on our radar too? |  |
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| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 15:59 - Jan 23 with 3611 views | PJH |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 15:57 - Jan 23 by gainsboroughblue |
Wasn't Billy Bingham on our radar too? |
Yes he was one of the other three I had in mind.
He was due to have an interview before Bobby Robson was spoken to but I think he decided to stay at Plymouth before actually having an interview. | | | |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 16:10 - Jan 23 with 3598 views | Tommyparker |
Dave Sexton was managing Chelsea, asked Bobby to scout for him at a Ipswich Town v Nottingham Forest game. At Portman Road that night, a chap called Murray Sangster approached and introduced himself as one of the Ipswich Town directors. They got on and Bobby took an instant shine to him. So Bobby applied in writing for the vacant manager's job at Ipswich Town. Bobby then met up with Ken Brightwell, Harold Smith and John Cobbold, the three directors near Liverpool Street station. They gave Bobby the job but they couldn't offer Bobby a contract, Bobby accepted the offer. |  | | |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 16:24 - Jan 23 with 3558 views | Radlett_blue |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 16:10 - Jan 23 by Tommyparker |
Dave Sexton was managing Chelsea, asked Bobby to scout for him at a Ipswich Town v Nottingham Forest game. At Portman Road that night, a chap called Murray Sangster approached and introduced himself as one of the Ipswich Town directors. They got on and Bobby took an instant shine to him. So Bobby applied in writing for the vacant manager's job at Ipswich Town. Bobby then met up with Ken Brightwell, Harold Smith and John Cobbold, the three directors near Liverpool Street station. They gave Bobby the job but they couldn't offer Bobby a contract, Bobby accepted the offer. |
Hard to know if it was good judgement or luck - Mr John didn't have a clue about football. The positive was that the Cobbolds didn't believe in sacking managers so they must have been peeved when McGarry walked. Robson wouldn't have been an acclaimed appointment at the time as his only experience was a short & very unsuccessful period at Fulham (plus a short spell coaching the mediocre Vancouver Royals).
Imagine the melt-down if we made a similar appointment these days! |  |
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| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 17:10 - Jan 23 with 3470 views | Churchman |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 16:24 - Jan 23 by Radlett_blue |
Hard to know if it was good judgement or luck - Mr John didn't have a clue about football. The positive was that the Cobbolds didn't believe in sacking managers so they must have been peeved when McGarry walked. Robson wouldn't have been an acclaimed appointment at the time as his only experience was a short & very unsuccessful period at Fulham (plus a short spell coaching the mediocre Vancouver Royals).
Imagine the melt-down if we made a similar appointment these days! |
The Cobbolds may not have had a clue about football, but they clearly did about people. Ok they got it wrong with Jackie Milburn, but to employ 2 England managers in their last 4 appointments (5 if Ferguson was employed in their time) is pretty phenomenal.
With McGarry I suspect it was more disappointment than peeved. That was certainly the case when they heard Robson had agreed a move to Everton. I don’t think they ever did peeved. It wasn’t their style. They were pretty unique by all accounts |  | | |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 17:46 - Jan 23 with 3418 views | PremierBlue |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 16:10 - Jan 23 by Tommyparker |
Dave Sexton was managing Chelsea, asked Bobby to scout for him at a Ipswich Town v Nottingham Forest game. At Portman Road that night, a chap called Murray Sangster approached and introduced himself as one of the Ipswich Town directors. They got on and Bobby took an instant shine to him. So Bobby applied in writing for the vacant manager's job at Ipswich Town. Bobby then met up with Ken Brightwell, Harold Smith and John Cobbold, the three directors near Liverpool Street station. They gave Bobby the job but they couldn't offer Bobby a contract, Bobby accepted the offer. |
So, did Murray Sangster act on behalf of the other Town directors when approaching Sir Bobby at the game? How did they know he would be at the game? | | | |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 17:56 - Jan 23 with 3400 views | allezlesbleus |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 17:10 - Jan 23 by Churchman |
The Cobbolds may not have had a clue about football, but they clearly did about people. Ok they got it wrong with Jackie Milburn, but to employ 2 England managers in their last 4 appointments (5 if Ferguson was employed in their time) is pretty phenomenal.
With McGarry I suspect it was more disappointment than peeved. That was certainly the case when they heard Robson had agreed a move to Everton. I don’t think they ever did peeved. It wasn’t their style. They were pretty unique by all accounts |
I think the Cobbold's strengths were that they left the footballing side of things to the manager and (his appointed) assistant / coaching staff, they supported him when some senior players and fans wanted him out and they also didn't stop him doing "risky business" such as signing 2 relatively (in English circles) unknown Dutch players.
Some of the newer breed of Chairmen could learn a thing or two from Mr John and Mr Patrick. |  | | |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 18:14 - Jan 23 with 3361 views | BloomBlue |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 17:56 - Jan 23 by allezlesbleus |
I think the Cobbold's strengths were that they left the footballing side of things to the manager and (his appointed) assistant / coaching staff, they supported him when some senior players and fans wanted him out and they also didn't stop him doing "risky business" such as signing 2 relatively (in English circles) unknown Dutch players.
Some of the newer breed of Chairmen could learn a thing or two from Mr John and Mr Patrick. |
They ignored the fans most of the time, correctly may I aid, they wouldn't survive now in the social media age fans would be calling them various names for ignoring their entitlements. |  | | |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 18:23 - Jan 23 with 3349 views | Tommyparker |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 17:46 - Jan 23 by PremierBlue |
So, did Murray Sangster act on behalf of the other Town directors when approaching Sir Bobby at the game? How did they know he would be at the game? |
They were thrown together by chance and a connection was made. Bobby took a instant shine to Murray Sangster straight away, he was exceptionally friendly towards Bobby. | | | |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 18:31 - Jan 23 with 3345 views | Tommyparker |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 17:56 - Jan 23 by allezlesbleus |
I think the Cobbold's strengths were that they left the footballing side of things to the manager and (his appointed) assistant / coaching staff, they supported him when some senior players and fans wanted him out and they also didn't stop him doing "risky business" such as signing 2 relatively (in English circles) unknown Dutch players.
Some of the newer breed of Chairmen could learn a thing or two from Mr John and Mr Patrick. |
They knew nothing about football or the players. When buying Paul Mariner from Plymouth, he thought Bobby was buying a sailor. At Leicester one afternoon he patted Bobby on the shoulder when we were 2-0 down, John said the team is playing frightfully well, Bobby. Have you been doing something special in training, Bobby was confused then it clicked, he thought my God , he thinks we're winning two-nil. Bobby replied to Mr John and said we're losing two-nil. We're the away side, we've changed to yellow. Leicester are playing in blue. | | | |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 18:41 - Jan 23 with 3334 views | Churchman |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 18:14 - Jan 23 by BloomBlue |
They ignored the fans most of the time, correctly may I aid, they wouldn't survive now in the social media age fans would be calling them various names for ignoring their entitlements. |
They were extraordinary even by the standards of the day. Socially, ITFC was the best club in the country. Teetotal directors of other clubs or people with medical conditions were advised not to go anywhere near the place.
However - Robson was getting pelters at a 3-1 loss game against Man U when Best etc tore us to bits. At the following days board meeting Bobby Robson thought he was for the chop. Instead John Cobbold apologised for the crowds behaviour and extended his contract.
He put faith in his/the Board’s judgement in his manager and backed him. And the rest is history. [Post edited 23 Jan 2020 19:32]
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| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 19:34 - Jan 23 with 3280 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 18:41 - Jan 23 by Churchman |
They were extraordinary even by the standards of the day. Socially, ITFC was the best club in the country. Teetotal directors of other clubs or people with medical conditions were advised not to go anywhere near the place.
However - Robson was getting pelters at a 3-1 loss game against Man U when Best etc tore us to bits. At the following days board meeting Bobby Robson thought he was for the chop. Instead John Cobbold apologised for the crowds behaviour and extended his contract.
He put faith in his/the Board’s judgement in his manager and backed him. And the rest is history. [Post edited 23 Jan 2020 19:32]
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I've often thought the Cobbold's would make a brilliant subject of a feature film, like the Damned United for e.g.
As eccentric and enigmatic as any football characters. So proud of their long association to the club. [Post edited 23 Jan 2020 19:35]
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| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 19:51 - Jan 23 with 3251 views | Trequartista |
Hawk Express? |  |
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| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 19:52 - Jan 23 with 3244 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 19:51 - Jan 23 by Trequartista |
Hawk Express? |
More likely Robin Hood taxis for Bobby's era. | |
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| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 20:06 - Jan 23 with 3224 views | Meadowlark |
| Who brought Sir Alf and Sir Bobby to Portman Rd? on 18:41 - Jan 23 by Churchman |
They were extraordinary even by the standards of the day. Socially, ITFC was the best club in the country. Teetotal directors of other clubs or people with medical conditions were advised not to go anywhere near the place.
However - Robson was getting pelters at a 3-1 loss game against Man U when Best etc tore us to bits. At the following days board meeting Bobby Robson thought he was for the chop. Instead John Cobbold apologised for the crowds behaviour and extended his contract.
He put faith in his/the Board’s judgement in his manager and backed him. And the rest is history. [Post edited 23 Jan 2020 19:32]
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Did you see that match?
George Best second half was unplayable! First half he'd done nothing except sulk when the North Stand sang "Georgie's lost his handbag." Second half was something special. |  | | |
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