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So, that the Test Series won then... 14:51 - Jan 27 with 2500 viewshomer_123

.....how do we assess that performance then?

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So, that the Test Series won then... on 14:53 - Jan 27 with 2121 viewsGuthrum

Pretty comprehensive. Bouncing back from the problems in the first test.

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So, that the Test Series won then... on 14:54 - Jan 27 with 2120 viewshomer_123

So, that the Test Series won then... on 14:53 - Jan 27 by Guthrum

Pretty comprehensive. Bouncing back from the problems in the first test.


It's quite a turnaround isn't it?

Lots of problems, illness etc.

I still can't quite work out how decent SA are though?

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So, that the Test Series won then... on 14:57 - Jan 27 with 2105 viewsGuthrum

So, that the Test Series won then... on 14:54 - Jan 27 by homer_123

It's quite a turnaround isn't it?

Lots of problems, illness etc.

I still can't quite work out how decent SA are though?


SA are struggling. A team in transition, not yet sorted out their problems, not enough discipline or tactical leadership.

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So, that the Test Series won then... on 14:57 - Jan 27 with 2102 viewsitfcjoe

About as good a series as you could hope for after the shambolic 1st test brought on by inadequate preparation adn a ridiculous illness bug

Contributions from everyone, but too many of the batsmen didn't make themselves undroppable when opportunity seemed there to do so - a shame Burns got injured

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So, that the Test Series won then... on 14:59 - Jan 27 with 2081 viewsHerbivore

So, that the Test Series won then... on 14:54 - Jan 27 by homer_123

It's quite a turnaround isn't it?

Lots of problems, illness etc.

I still can't quite work out how decent SA are though?


SA are not great. Their bowling attack is weak in comparison to years gone by, though Nortje looks good. Lots of unproven or out of form batsmen in their line up as well.

That said, we've had issues ourselves and to win a series on conditions we usually falter in is praiseworthy. We look to have found some batting in the top order at last and we're blessed with good depth in our seam bowling. Only time will tell if this series is seen as an anomaly or whether it will be looked at as the start of the next potential world number 1 England test side.

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So, that the Test Series won then... on 15:04 - Jan 27 with 2063 viewsFunge

The Saffers are terrible - poor old QdK, reminiscent of Chanderpaul's last few years with the Windies (albeit with a completely different style).

That said, this England side took a bit of a bruising in NZ, and to come back from that with Burns/ Archer/ Leach all injured, and Anderson injured for half the series, is pretty impressive.

Pope looks terrific, and Crawley and Sibley both look assured. Sibley, in particular, can bat time, which no-one since Sir Cook has been able to do.

Issues are Denly (crap) and Buttler - not a test player. Would also love to see Root overcome his inability to turn 50s into 100s.

Interesting to see Silverwood's patience begin to manifest into this team; very different to the crash-bang-wallop of the Bayliss/ Farbrace era.

Still a way behind the Indians, I think, and, annoyingly, as we improve, so do the Aussies. Labuschagne is going to p1ss us off for years. Hopefully Pope and Sibley can reciprocate.
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So, that the Test Series won then... on 15:10 - Jan 27 with 2036 viewsChrisd

So, that the Test Series won then... on 14:59 - Jan 27 by Herbivore

SA are not great. Their bowling attack is weak in comparison to years gone by, though Nortje looks good. Lots of unproven or out of form batsmen in their line up as well.

That said, we've had issues ourselves and to win a series on conditions we usually falter in is praiseworthy. We look to have found some batting in the top order at last and we're blessed with good depth in our seam bowling. Only time will tell if this series is seen as an anomaly or whether it will be looked at as the start of the next potential world number 1 England test side.


Disagree about their bowling, that's their strength currently Nortje and Radabe both speedsters and Maharaj a solid spin option. Their batting is very lightweight once 4 wickets down you know you're into them, but van der Dussen looks a find. They need some additions in both areas as they look a weak Test nation, but England should be encouraged with an overseas series win.

From England's point of view, they look like they are beginning to string together a very decent looking Test side. Crawley, Sibley and Pope all look very good batting options and the bowling department suddenly looks like it has some depth with some variety too. Anderson and Broad can be slowly phased out over the next couple of years with less reliance on them both and I'd like to see Ben Foakes picked for the Sri Lanka series, he's the country's best wicketkeeper IMO. You need your best glovesman behind the stumps on those types of dusty wickets in the sub continent.

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So, that the Test Series won then... on 15:12 - Jan 27 with 2031 viewsJakeITFC

Overall it has been a great success, regardless of South Africa’s troubles.

Runs and time in the middle for Sibley and Crawley, who still have questions marks of strike rate and playing of spin respectively, but with Burns and potentially Keaton Jennings we finally have a relatively competent stable of openers to call upon.

Root getting runs and captaining brightly an obvious highlight - his bowling a bonus.

Pope looks a natural, Stokes remains a gun and I’ve enjoyed Buttler winding them up.

Bowling has to be the biggest positive, with Mark Wood the really good thing to take away from the series.

There are still questions - Denly and Buttler probably being the biggest, but I’d say this is a strong statement series from a young side.
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So, that the Test Series won then... on 15:23 - Jan 27 with 2003 viewsloyalblue

So, that the Test Series won then... on 15:12 - Jan 27 by JakeITFC

Overall it has been a great success, regardless of South Africa’s troubles.

Runs and time in the middle for Sibley and Crawley, who still have questions marks of strike rate and playing of spin respectively, but with Burns and potentially Keaton Jennings we finally have a relatively competent stable of openers to call upon.

Root getting runs and captaining brightly an obvious highlight - his bowling a bonus.

Pope looks a natural, Stokes remains a gun and I’ve enjoyed Buttler winding them up.

Bowling has to be the biggest positive, with Mark Wood the really good thing to take away from the series.

There are still questions - Denly and Buttler probably being the biggest, but I’d say this is a strong statement series from a young side.


Was discussing this earlier, a team of the below looks good, assuming Anderson/Broad wont play on for too much longer;

Burns
Sibley
Crawley
Root
Stokes
Pope
Foakes
Woakes
Wood
Bess
Archer
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So, that the Test Series won then... on 15:24 - Jan 27 with 2000 viewsdavblue

promising signs from the openers and the team but South Africa are in a state of flux and their batting line up is pretty average to say the least.

Things to work on still but an encouraging start.
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So, that the Test Series won then... on 15:27 - Jan 27 with 1965 viewsSharkey

I like cricket but never follow England.

Would they have beaten a full-strength SA team? (i.e. one not drained by Kolpak.)
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So, that the Test Series won then... on 15:31 - Jan 27 with 1949 viewshomer_123

So, that the Test Series won then... on 15:24 - Jan 27 by davblue

promising signs from the openers and the team but South Africa are in a state of flux and their batting line up is pretty average to say the least.

Things to work on still but an encouraging start.


Yes, slightly more promising in terms of openers for us...SA have a decent bowling attack but given they are so all over the shop, overall very hard to judge.

That said, considering the start a decent series win.

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So, that the Test Series won then... on 15:31 - Jan 27 with 1942 viewsStokieBlue

So, that the Test Series won then... on 14:54 - Jan 27 by homer_123

It's quite a turnaround isn't it?

Lots of problems, illness etc.

I still can't quite work out how decent SA are though?


They have lost 4 out of their last 5 test series.

SB

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So, that the Test Series won then... on 15:32 - Jan 27 with 1940 viewshomer_123

So, that the Test Series won then... on 14:57 - Jan 27 by Guthrum

SA are struggling. A team in transition, not yet sorted out their problems, not enough discipline or tactical leadership.


I quite like the decent signs from our openers and we do seem to have some choice now with our seam bowling, and we'll face sterner sides as well.

But, given the mess of the 1st match, that's a very decent turnaround I think.

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So, that the Test Series won then... on 15:33 - Jan 27 with 1936 viewshomer_123

So, that the Test Series won then... on 15:31 - Jan 27 by StokieBlue

They have lost 4 out of their last 5 test series.

SB


Doesn't always tell the whole story though (albeit it does in terms of results).

Maybe they brought us down to their level?

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So, that the Test Series won then... on 15:33 - Jan 27 with 1936 viewsStokieBlue

So, that the Test Series won then... on 15:33 - Jan 27 by homer_123

Doesn't always tell the whole story though (albeit it does in terms of results).

Maybe they brought us down to their level?


It was only with regards to your point on how good are SA.

Whether that took us down to our level isn't really relevant in that question.

Good series win though.

SB
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So, that the Test Series won then... on 15:54 - Jan 27 with 1900 viewschicoazul

I hate to do the England thing of hyping people up after they have been around for fewer than 5 minutes but maybe we have found 4 batsmen now - Pope, Burns, Crawly and Sibley. At last we may finally have a top order.

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So, that the Test Series won then... on 15:56 - Jan 27 with 1892 viewschicoazul

So, that the Test Series won then... on 15:23 - Jan 27 by loyalblue

Was discussing this earlier, a team of the below looks good, assuming Anderson/Broad wont play on for too much longer;

Burns
Sibley
Crawley
Root
Stokes
Pope
Foakes
Woakes
Wood
Bess
Archer


Foakes apparently isnt playing well at the mo. Surely Bairstow a better bet than Buttler in there right now? Although as someone else alluded to Buttler is a grade-A aggravation specialist and every team needs one.

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So, that the Test Series won then... on 15:58 - Jan 27 with 1892 viewsSteve_D

So, that the Test Series won then... on 15:31 - Jan 27 by StokieBlue

They have lost 4 out of their last 5 test series.

SB


And ranked alongside Bangladesh in test ranking , hardly a force
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So, that the Test Series won then... on 16:02 - Jan 27 with 1880 viewsitfcjoe

So, that the Test Series won then... on 15:54 - Jan 27 by chicoazul

I hate to do the England thing of hyping people up after they have been around for fewer than 5 minutes but maybe we have found 4 batsmen now - Pope, Burns, Crawly and Sibley. At last we may finally have a top order.


I'm not convinced fully by Crawley and Sibley yet, but they are at least worth persisting with which seems a rarity for young English batsmen

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So, that the Test Series won then... on 16:12 - Jan 27 with 1862 viewsDevereuxxx

Really enjoyable test series, with England actually performing well.

Positives were Sibley and Pope getting maidan centuries, Stokes being peak Ben Stokes with both ball, bat and mouth, while Mark Wood's return was most welcome. Personal highlights were probably Root getting smacked for 28 in one over when chasing a fivefer and then taking himself out of the attack, and Jonny Bairstow with the binoculars.

Only real proper negative (apart from the first test) was Buttler's form. Can't help but feel Foakes must be knocking on the door pretty hard by now.
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So, that the Test Series won then... on 16:22 - Jan 27 with 1839 viewsSharkey

So, that the Test Series won then... on 16:12 - Jan 27 by Devereuxxx

Really enjoyable test series, with England actually performing well.

Positives were Sibley and Pope getting maidan centuries, Stokes being peak Ben Stokes with both ball, bat and mouth, while Mark Wood's return was most welcome. Personal highlights were probably Root getting smacked for 28 in one over when chasing a fivefer and then taking himself out of the attack, and Jonny Bairstow with the binoculars.

Only real proper negative (apart from the first test) was Buttler's form. Can't help but feel Foakes must be knocking on the door pretty hard by now.


Foakes had a pretty miserable season for Surrey, I think. (Sorry to say, as he's 'one of our own'.)
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So, that the Test Series won then... on 16:34 - Jan 27 with 1822 viewsChrisd

So, that the Test Series won then... on 16:02 - Jan 27 by itfcjoe

I'm not convinced fully by Crawley and Sibley yet, but they are at least worth persisting with which seems a rarity for young English batsmen


Sibley has already shown he can bat time and that’s an important commodity in the test match arena. Crawley I feel has more to prove, but I like what I’ve seen of him; needs work on the short ball.
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So, that the Test Series won then... on 16:45 - Jan 27 with 1809 viewsHerbivore

So, that the Test Series won then... on 15:10 - Jan 27 by Chrisd

Disagree about their bowling, that's their strength currently Nortje and Radabe both speedsters and Maharaj a solid spin option. Their batting is very lightweight once 4 wickets down you know you're into them, but van der Dussen looks a find. They need some additions in both areas as they look a weak Test nation, but England should be encouraged with an overseas series win.

From England's point of view, they look like they are beginning to string together a very decent looking Test side. Crawley, Sibley and Pope all look very good batting options and the bowling department suddenly looks like it has some depth with some variety too. Anderson and Broad can be slowly phased out over the next couple of years with less reliance on them both and I'd like to see Ben Foakes picked for the Sri Lanka series, he's the country's best wicketkeeper IMO. You need your best glovesman behind the stumps on those types of dusty wickets in the sub continent.


Their bowling might be their strength but it's still weak compared to when they had Steijn, Morkel and Philander in his prime. Past Rabada and Nortje, who is new to test cricket, there isn't a lot of quality. They really toiled at times with the ball. Agree that batting is an even bigger issue but I don't think I'd trade their bowling options for ours, it's still relatively weak for a top level test side.

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So, that the Test Series won then... on 18:01 - Jan 27 with 1717 viewsChrisd

So, that the Test Series won then... on 16:45 - Jan 27 by Herbivore

Their bowling might be their strength but it's still weak compared to when they had Steijn, Morkel and Philander in his prime. Past Rabada and Nortje, who is new to test cricket, there isn't a lot of quality. They really toiled at times with the ball. Agree that batting is an even bigger issue but I don't think I'd trade their bowling options for ours, it's still relatively weak for a top level test side.


Without a doubt, I wouldn't trade the bowling either, but Radabe and Nortje are 90mph+ bowlers, which is scary for batsmen. Rory Burns was saying the other day on Sky how intimidating their speed was. It's a pity Philander is now the age he is, in his pomp he was a top quality performer. His quality and consistent line and length would be an ideal foil. The batting is more a mess and needs plenty of surgery. If they can't post a total, then they are always going to be playing catch up. SA used to churn the test batsmen out: Kirsten, Smith, Kallis, Amla etc. they would score heavily and have the mental fortitude to enjoy the battle. That's going to be a real struggle, we've found it hard enough over recent years.

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