| Tommy Smith 16:12 - Jan 27 with 3811 views | uefacup81 |
What is this absolute obsession with signing him again? He doesn't fit in with the style that Lambert wants to play, and there's no room in the squad/budget for another first-team CB to be just hanging around on the off-chance of an injury/change of tactics. |  |
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| Tommy Smith on 16:13 - Jan 27 with 3249 views | Garv |
Thank the Lord for this post. |  |
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| Tommy Smith on 16:16 - Jan 27 with 3223 views | Bluefish |
I find the excitement by some fairly odd. I'm sure we'd all have him back but I am not sure where he fits in and why are we so desperate to sign cover? The only place I see him is the central role because Chambers and Woolfenden are simply better on the ball and covering full backs. I am not an big Wilson fan but he is doing a job and Skuse would equally do that job well too. Tommy had some limitations when he was here and I'm not convinced that he will have got better while playing out in the hole of the MLS. I'm not against him and it would be lovely for cover and sentimentality but I can think of better ways to spend money. |  |
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| Tommy Smith on 16:22 - Jan 27 with 3178 views | itfcjoe |
We are short of CBs and there is one on our doorstep who is proven at a higher level |  |
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| Tommy Smith on 16:23 - Jan 27 with 3163 views | homer_123 |
| Tommy Smith on 16:22 - Jan 27 by itfcjoe |
We are short of CBs and there is one on our doorstep who is proven at a higher level |
We are not short - we are merely light if injuries hit us and we wish to persist with 3 at the back.
Earl is in, Donacien and Skuse can all play there. |  |
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| Tommy Smith on 16:38 - Jan 27 with 3115 views | PJH |
| Tommy Smith on 16:23 - Jan 27 by homer_123 |
We are not short - we are merely light if injuries hit us and we wish to persist with 3 at the back.
Earl is in, Donacien and Skuse can all play there. |
Just about how I see it.
Is he actually a free agent in which case he could presumably be signed outside the transfer window????
As things stand at this moment I do not think that another central defender is necessary. |  | | |
| Tommy Smith on 16:40 - Jan 27 with 3105 views | itfcjoe |
| Tommy Smith on 16:23 - Jan 27 by homer_123 |
We are not short - we are merely light if injuries hit us and we wish to persist with 3 at the back.
Earl is in, Donacien and Skuse can all play there. |
I personally don't want to see Donacien or Skuse there, Lambert doesn't rate JD at all it seems and Skuse won't work with how we are playing.
When you look at the CM options compared to CB options then I'm surprised anyone thinks we aren't ligh there
We'll see what lambert things come Friday | |
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| Tommy Smith on 16:41 - Jan 27 with 3090 views | hampstead_blue |
Rose tinted.....
We're well stocked if we get an injury or two. |  |
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| Tommy Smith on 16:46 - Jan 27 with 3066 views | uefacup81 |
| Tommy Smith on 16:40 - Jan 27 by itfcjoe |
I personally don't want to see Donacien or Skuse there, Lambert doesn't rate JD at all it seems and Skuse won't work with how we are playing.
When you look at the CM options compared to CB options then I'm surprised anyone thinks we aren't ligh there
We'll see what lambert things come Friday |
So you argue that Skuse wouldn't work at CB given how we're playing, but advocate bringing in Tommy Smith, who also wouldn't work at CB given how we're playing.
Odd. | |
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| Tommy Smith on 16:47 - Jan 27 with 3059 views | MrTown |
I don't think there is an obsession to get Tommy Smith here, but more a sensible suggestion that currently we have 4 CB's when we play 3. And in the central midfield we have about 8.
Where is the balance there?
Tommy Smith is solid defender, more than capable at League 1.
a fully capped international, a left-footed balance, would fit the central role of a back three very well in that more robust and conservative approach compared to the overlapping full backs, played nearly 250 games for Town, 29 years old, settled in Ipswich and free agent, seems bloody sensible business to me...... IF the wages can be sorted. |  |
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| Tommy Smith on 16:51 - Jan 27 with 3028 views | homer_123 |
| Tommy Smith on 16:40 - Jan 27 by itfcjoe |
I personally don't want to see Donacien or Skuse there, Lambert doesn't rate JD at all it seems and Skuse won't work with how we are playing.
When you look at the CM options compared to CB options then I'm surprised anyone thinks we aren't ligh there
We'll see what lambert things come Friday |
There is a significant difference between light (which I have said applies if injuries come in) and short. | |
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| Tommy Smith on 16:52 - Jan 27 with 3019 views | homer_123 |
| Tommy Smith on 16:46 - Jan 27 by uefacup81 |
So you argue that Skuse wouldn't work at CB given how we're playing, but advocate bringing in Tommy Smith, who also wouldn't work at CB given how we're playing.
Odd. |
Indeed - Tommy (I really like him by the way) was never great with the ball at his feet. | |
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| Tommy Smith on 17:05 - Jan 27 with 2965 views | Illinoisblue |
| Tommy Smith on 16:16 - Jan 27 by Bluefish |
I find the excitement by some fairly odd. I'm sure we'd all have him back but I am not sure where he fits in and why are we so desperate to sign cover? The only place I see him is the central role because Chambers and Woolfenden are simply better on the ball and covering full backs. I am not an big Wilson fan but he is doing a job and Skuse would equally do that job well too. Tommy had some limitations when he was here and I'm not convinced that he will have got better while playing out in the hole of the MLS. I'm not against him and it would be lovely for cover and sentimentality but I can think of better ways to spend money. |
Your point about the quality of MLS is spot on. It, much like League One, is mostly pisspoor |  |
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| Tommy Smith on 17:18 - Jan 27 with 2931 views | itfcjoe |
| Tommy Smith on 16:46 - Jan 27 by uefacup81 |
So you argue that Skuse wouldn't work at CB given how we're playing, but advocate bringing in Tommy Smith, who also wouldn't work at CB given how we're playing.
Odd. |
Skuse isn’t a CB, Smith is - he could quite easily cover the role Wilson has been playing with no changes.
He has spent his whole NZ career and the majority of his time at the Rapids playing in a back 3 | |
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| Tommy Smith on 17:41 - Jan 27 with 2863 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| Tommy Smith on 16:22 - Jan 27 by itfcjoe |
We are short of CBs and there is one on our doorstep who is proven at a higher level |
We are light on CB's but I don't think this is the way to go.
Loved Tommy when he was here and he loved the club but that is in the past( doubt he would be able to run that far now ).
For the future I believe we need scope two Centre Backs for the team. We have one young upcoming CB,one veteran and one journeyman. The veteran will need to be phased out in the not to distant future. We need to cultivate/acquire two further young mobile CB's and blood them with the experienced players. Short term we should go with what we have with maybe a loaner for cover. Not sure Tommy fancies pay for play option. |  | | |
| Tommy Smith on 17:51 - Jan 27 with 2843 views | GeoffSentence |
| Tommy Smith on 16:23 - Jan 27 by homer_123 |
We are not short - we are merely light if injuries hit us and we wish to persist with 3 at the back.
Earl is in, Donacien and Skuse can all play there. |
I know little about Earl, but Skuse is a makeshift centre back and Donacien is a not particularly good centre back.
Tommy is a good centre back, has played at a higher level indeed he has played in a World Cup - one in which his team was unbeaten.
As for the question of whether he can play out of the back or not, that is a hardish one to answer simply because he played under MM where lumping out from the back was the order of the day. That said he did do it and do it very well on occasion.
He is simply a better option than any of the options we already have at the club, outside of the current three encumbents, whether it is worth taking him on could only come down to the money side of things. |  |
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| Tommy Smith on 17:54 - Jan 27 with 2834 views | Bluefish |
| Tommy Smith on 17:18 - Jan 27 by itfcjoe |
Skuse isn’t a CB, Smith is - he could quite easily cover the role Wilson has been playing with no changes.
He has spent his whole NZ career and the majority of his time at the Rapids playing in a back 3 |
Kompany wasn't a CB either. Mustafi is | |
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| Tommy Smith on 17:54 - Jan 27 with 2833 views | GeoffSentence |
| Tommy Smith on 16:52 - Jan 27 by homer_123 |
Indeed - Tommy (I really like him by the way) was never great with the ball at his feet. |
I have seen him play it with the ball at his feet more than adequately, he's certainly no worse than WIlson or JD in that respect, but his senior career with us was under Mick's management, playing the ball out of defence was not a priority. | |
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| Tommy Smith on 18:01 - Jan 27 with 2800 views | itfcjoe |
| Tommy Smith on 17:54 - Jan 27 by Bluefish |
Kompany wasn't a CB either. Mustafi is |
are you comparing Kompany, who came through as a CB and had played plenty there, to 34 year old Cole Skuse who has played about 5 games at CB in this career? | |
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| Tommy Smith on 18:14 - Jan 27 with 2747 views | Bluefish |
| Tommy Smith on 18:01 - Jan 27 by itfcjoe |
are you comparing Kompany, who came through as a CB and had played plenty there, to 34 year old Cole Skuse who has played about 5 games at CB in this career? |
Don't underestimate Kompany | |
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| Tommy Smith on 19:11 - Jan 27 with 2663 views | LeoMuff |
| Tommy Smith on 17:18 - Jan 27 by itfcjoe |
Skuse isn’t a CB, Smith is - he could quite easily cover the role Wilson has been playing with no changes.
He has spent his whole NZ career and the majority of his time at the Rapids playing in a back 3 |
Totally agree, a season ending injury to one of our first team CBs and we are down to Donacian and Skuse which for the rest of the season is a disaster, we have no back up, as we have nothing to go on with Earl.
Smith is better than Wilson and would upgrade the team, and has a few years left in him. He would also give the club a huge lift as an recent years legend. |  |
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| Tommy Smith on 19:27 - Jan 27 with 2620 views | Hullblue |
We’re short on numbers and he would be a significant upgrade on Wilson for the central role - that’s why. |  |
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| Tommy Smith on 21:59 - Jan 27 with 2425 views | lmfcblue |
It’s the same lot who wanted Burley to come in place of PL, some people need to move on |  | | |
| Tommy Smith on 22:01 - Jan 27 with 2415 views | Bluefish |
| Tommy Smith on 21:59 - Jan 27 by lmfcblue |
It’s the same lot who wanted Burley to come in place of PL, some people need to move on |
I reckon Burley could get a game in the MLS as well | |
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| Tommy Smith on 22:10 - Jan 27 with 2384 views | Coastalblue |
Whole hearted, honest player who I will confess did add something in the attacking third at set pieces, but while I never had a real problem with him, neither did I really get the Smith love in when he was here.
I'd feel a bit meh either way if I'm honest, not that it matters of course, cos I have sod all say in it. |  |
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| Tommy Smith on 00:06 - Jan 28 with 2194 views | lmfcblue |
| Tommy Smith on 19:27 - Jan 27 by Hullblue |
We’re short on numbers and he would be a significant upgrade on Wilson for the central role - that’s why. |
I think Wilson is doing a great job | | | |
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