| Sajid Javid is gone 12:00 - Feb 13 with 27032 views | tractordownsouth |
There are reports that it's because he and Cummings fell out and wanted to sack all of Javid's SpAds. Glad we got rid of the influence of unelected burueacrats! [Post edited 13 Jul 2020 14:03]
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| Sajid Javid is gone on 14:55 - Feb 14 with 7778 views | HARRY10 |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 14:02 - Feb 14 by r2d2 |
I understand very well thank you. Leave her where she is. She made her choices. We shouldnt waste any money on having her back. |
Unfortunately International law does not follow the bigotry of Daily Mail readers.
However odious I find her behaviour , I find the idea that we pursue a brexiteer line of approach whereby law can be manipulated to suit, just as odious and scary.
She should face a trial in the country the crime was committed - but be aware there will be plenty of sabre rattling over this as usual.
Any trial is likely to be based on what advantage either country can gain |  | | |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 15:13 - Feb 14 with 7759 views | GaryCooper |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 14:25 - Feb 14 by The_Last_Baron |
No!
She was a fully fledged terrorist, sewing bombs into the vests of 'volunteers'. We have no idea what else she was up to when she was out there. She spoke about seeing severed heads on streets and in bins and thinking nothing of it. Let her rot where she is.
As for losing the babies, there is no way of knowing this, and in any case this is irrelevant to her actions.
I'm pretty confident that the vast majority of people in the country would back me on this. |
The majority would be wrong, in this instance. If you have a 16 year old daughter as I have had, then I'm sure you would have seen that they can be ideologically mis guided at this age.
Anyway the country needs to obey the laws not cherry pick.
As for sewing up bombs in suicide vests what is the proof of this? |  | | |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 15:40 - Feb 14 with 7731 views | r2d2 |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 14:18 - Feb 14 by GaryCooper |
Begum needs to come back, she was 16 FFS, she has lost 3 children, I believe it would benefit the nation in the long term to show careful, fully monitored compassion, now. |
No she doesnt. We shouldnt waste any money on her whatsoever. She made her bed. She isnt a UK citizen now anyway. You have to make examples or people get the wrong idea, like you have. Its the right decision. |  | | |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 15:41 - Feb 14 with 7725 views | Darth_Koont |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 15:13 - Feb 14 by GaryCooper |
The majority would be wrong, in this instance. If you have a 16 year old daughter as I have had, then I'm sure you would have seen that they can be ideologically mis guided at this age.
Anyway the country needs to obey the laws not cherry pick.
As for sewing up bombs in suicide vests what is the proof of this? |
More or less "ideologically misguided" than middle-aged blokes who drive all the way from Cardiff so they can drive into people outside a mosque?
There's a perception of the young as extremists and impressionable but in reality extremists are all ages, colours and religions. Certainly going by the recent terrorism cases in this country.
Although it does seem that grown men are much, much more likely to be involved than teenage girls. |  |
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| Sajid Javid is gone on 16:24 - Feb 14 with 7689 views | Churchman |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 12:48 - Feb 14 by The_Last_Baron |
Happy Friday Harry.
Up The Town. |
Not sure he really does happy. Might have given it a go if Jeremy had got the nod on 12 Dec. Still, while the great man ‘winning the argument’ seems not to have stemmed the rage, the desperate hope of Boris’s failure and the collapse of the nation seems to be sustaining him. |  | | |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 17:43 - Feb 14 with 7641 views | The_Last_Baron |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 15:13 - Feb 14 by GaryCooper |
The majority would be wrong, in this instance. If you have a 16 year old daughter as I have had, then I'm sure you would have seen that they can be ideologically mis guided at this age.
Anyway the country needs to obey the laws not cherry pick.
As for sewing up bombs in suicide vests what is the proof of this? |
CIA and Dutch Military Intelligence. Google it. There are witnesses to her deeds. She also carried a AK 47 and was an ISIS enforcer of their deranged morality laws. |  |
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| Sajid Javid is gone on 17:44 - Feb 14 with 7640 views | hampstead_blue |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 11:19 - Feb 14 by blueislander |
If that’s how you feel then fair enough, but it doesn’t sit well with our traditional democratic governance. I don’t but the Blair analogy at all. Do you have examples of this type of behavior.? Sure Campbell had quite a lot of power, but never used it the way that Cummings appears to. |
I don’t but the Blair analogy at all. Do you have examples of this type of behavior.? Sure Campbell had quite a lot of power, but never used it the way that Cummings appears to.
It's common knowledge. Blair admits it, Powell admits it. There is even a photo of TB perched on a sofa in #10 with his closed shop around him.
I'm not sure you asked the right question.
Blair had no control over Brown at all. It was mentioned today on R4 that 24hrs before a budget TB asked GB.....Any hints yet? Utterly dysfunctional.
Boris wants to avoid this at all costs. He has a very bright team who are properly beginning long awaited reform of Westminster.
Too many warm and spreading backsides plumping-up a great final salary pension scheme.
They are now going to have to perform or go! |  |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| Sajid Javid is gone on 17:46 - Feb 14 with 7636 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 17:43 - Feb 14 by The_Last_Baron |
CIA and Dutch Military Intelligence. Google it. There are witnesses to her deeds. She also carried a AK 47 and was an ISIS enforcer of their deranged morality laws. |
She is still our problem and our responsibility. |  |
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| Sajid Javid is gone on 17:49 - Feb 14 with 7628 views | Darth_Koont |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 17:44 - Feb 14 by hampstead_blue |
I don’t but the Blair analogy at all. Do you have examples of this type of behavior.? Sure Campbell had quite a lot of power, but never used it the way that Cummings appears to.
It's common knowledge. Blair admits it, Powell admits it. There is even a photo of TB perched on a sofa in #10 with his closed shop around him.
I'm not sure you asked the right question.
Blair had no control over Brown at all. It was mentioned today on R4 that 24hrs before a budget TB asked GB.....Any hints yet? Utterly dysfunctional.
Boris wants to avoid this at all costs. He has a very bright team who are properly beginning long awaited reform of Westminster.
Too many warm and spreading backsides plumping-up a great final salary pension scheme.
They are now going to have to perform or go! |
"(Boris) has a very bright team"
Any evidence of that? Or are we just doing Jackanory?
Politicians really don't need to be or do anything special when there's "useful idiots" out there making up stuff on their behalf. | |
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| Sajid Javid is gone on 18:38 - Feb 14 with 7598 views | The_Last_Baron |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 17:46 - Feb 14 by GlasgowBlue |
She is still our problem and our responsibility. |
I'm afraid not. She's her own responsibility, let ISIS look after her. I couldn't give a fig about her. | |
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| Sajid Javid is gone on 19:06 - Feb 14 with 7580 views | m14_blue |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 17:44 - Feb 14 by hampstead_blue |
I don’t but the Blair analogy at all. Do you have examples of this type of behavior.? Sure Campbell had quite a lot of power, but never used it the way that Cummings appears to.
It's common knowledge. Blair admits it, Powell admits it. There is even a photo of TB perched on a sofa in #10 with his closed shop around him.
I'm not sure you asked the right question.
Blair had no control over Brown at all. It was mentioned today on R4 that 24hrs before a budget TB asked GB.....Any hints yet? Utterly dysfunctional.
Boris wants to avoid this at all costs. He has a very bright team who are properly beginning long awaited reform of Westminster.
Too many warm and spreading backsides plumping-up a great final salary pension scheme.
They are now going to have to perform or go! |
It’s nothing to do with how they perform, was the NI secretary not performing?
You just have to be willing to do exactly what Cummings tells you, that’s not strong leadership either, it’s all about ego and insecurity.
Do you really just want lapdogs in the cabinet being told what to do by ‘very smart’ unelected beaurocrats?
Is that what Brexit was all about? | | | |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 19:12 - Feb 14 with 7569 views | hampstead_blue |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 19:06 - Feb 14 by m14_blue |
It’s nothing to do with how they perform, was the NI secretary not performing?
You just have to be willing to do exactly what Cummings tells you, that’s not strong leadership either, it’s all about ego and insecurity.
Do you really just want lapdogs in the cabinet being told what to do by ‘very smart’ unelected beaurocrats?
Is that what Brexit was all about? |
Please re-read my post.
I was referring to civil servants. The hardest to fire when under performing. Not MP's who come and go.
The NI chap was a shame. He had pushed water uphill. He did incredibly well but BJ want's a something else.
It would be nice if you could re-read with the context of my post.
Thanks. | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| Sajid Javid is gone on 19:29 - Feb 14 with 7554 views | tractordownsouth |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 11:02 - Feb 14 by hampstead_blue |
I think that you and your kin will never be happy unless you get a hard left terror loving government.
I guess you'll have to either
1) Explode
2) Suck it up
3) Move to Venezuala
4) Pipe down
5) Block me
I can't help you I'm afraid. Not sure what else to suggest.
We've been saved from bankruptcy. So many people are coming out telling us the JC/JM's policies were bonkers and not deliverable. Maybe you are in the very small circle who thought it might work.
Javid didn't want to have his power eroded.
BJ wants a closer team
Simple.
The chap they have in now is a very bright lad. I'd rather have him than JC. |
Do you idiots even have any clue about Venezuela? Their corporation tax is 10% higher than what Corbyn proposed and their problems are down to a lack of export diversification and poor governance, as well as extreme left wing policies which are in no way comparable to the UK Labour Party. Read up on the situation before spouting nonsense.
As for bankruptcy, a lot of economic analysis suggests that Brexit will do more damage than a Labour government ever could. And trying to paint people who disagree with you as terrorist sympathisers is pretty disgraceful. [Post edited 14 Feb 2020 19:31]
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| Sajid Javid is gone on 19:32 - Feb 14 with 7550 views | HARRY10 |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 17:44 - Feb 14 by hampstead_blue |
I don’t but the Blair analogy at all. Do you have examples of this type of behavior.? Sure Campbell had quite a lot of power, but never used it the way that Cummings appears to.
It's common knowledge. Blair admits it, Powell admits it. There is even a photo of TB perched on a sofa in #10 with his closed shop around him.
I'm not sure you asked the right question.
Blair had no control over Brown at all. It was mentioned today on R4 that 24hrs before a budget TB asked GB.....Any hints yet? Utterly dysfunctional.
Boris wants to avoid this at all costs. He has a very bright team who are properly beginning long awaited reform of Westminster.
Too many warm and spreading backsides plumping-up a great final salary pension scheme.
They are now going to have to perform or go! |
You really don't understand any of this and so are grasping at straws. The Chancellor acting seperately from the PM is what happens. Look at why Howe resigned.
What Johnson has around him are 3rd rate yes men/women. Cummings is where he is so as to ensure Johnson does as he is instructed. Ever wondered why so much of the shyte he spouts get retracted a day or so after.
Could it simply be that 'others' have reined him in. For a man of his ignorance and incompetence tp have reached the levels he has suggests other hands at work.
What you will now see is what the intention behind brexit was all along. Johnson's desperation for his supposed 'place in history' makes him a very suitable candidate to be used. And if you still don't grasp that read up on how clueless he was a mayor, and MP before that and recently as Foreign Secretary.
The same flaws throughout that are now coming to the fore again. Badly read, unable to think on his feet so relies upon made up stuff to bluff his way out. I pointed out weeks back how it would all slowly fall apart. I was wrong in that claim only that I did not think he would be as bad so quickly as has been shown.
A man with so many failures behind is not likely to stop now - as the past sux weeks have already shown. | | | |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 19:57 - Feb 14 with 7515 views | hampstead_blue |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 19:32 - Feb 14 by HARRY10 |
You really don't understand any of this and so are grasping at straws. The Chancellor acting seperately from the PM is what happens. Look at why Howe resigned.
What Johnson has around him are 3rd rate yes men/women. Cummings is where he is so as to ensure Johnson does as he is instructed. Ever wondered why so much of the shyte he spouts get retracted a day or so after.
Could it simply be that 'others' have reined him in. For a man of his ignorance and incompetence tp have reached the levels he has suggests other hands at work.
What you will now see is what the intention behind brexit was all along. Johnson's desperation for his supposed 'place in history' makes him a very suitable candidate to be used. And if you still don't grasp that read up on how clueless he was a mayor, and MP before that and recently as Foreign Secretary.
The same flaws throughout that are now coming to the fore again. Badly read, unable to think on his feet so relies upon made up stuff to bluff his way out. I pointed out weeks back how it would all slowly fall apart. I was wrong in that claim only that I did not think he would be as bad so quickly as has been shown.
A man with so many failures behind is not likely to stop now - as the past sux weeks have already shown. |
you're talking about other things outside the OP and my post.
We disagree. I'm relaxed at that and don't like spats.
Oh, England beat SA in the cricket! That's cool....
Have a good evening. | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| Sajid Javid is gone on 20:06 - Feb 14 with 7503 views | Churchman |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 19:32 - Feb 14 by HARRY10 |
You really don't understand any of this and so are grasping at straws. The Chancellor acting seperately from the PM is what happens. Look at why Howe resigned.
What Johnson has around him are 3rd rate yes men/women. Cummings is where he is so as to ensure Johnson does as he is instructed. Ever wondered why so much of the shyte he spouts get retracted a day or so after.
Could it simply be that 'others' have reined him in. For a man of his ignorance and incompetence tp have reached the levels he has suggests other hands at work.
What you will now see is what the intention behind brexit was all along. Johnson's desperation for his supposed 'place in history' makes him a very suitable candidate to be used. And if you still don't grasp that read up on how clueless he was a mayor, and MP before that and recently as Foreign Secretary.
The same flaws throughout that are now coming to the fore again. Badly read, unable to think on his feet so relies upon made up stuff to bluff his way out. I pointed out weeks back how it would all slowly fall apart. I was wrong in that claim only that I did not think he would be as bad so quickly as has been shown.
A man with so many failures behind is not likely to stop now - as the past sux weeks have already shown. |
Your first paragraph is completely incorrect.
Regardless of BJs many failings, he is not an ignorant man. If you think that, I suggest you read up on him.
Clueless as Mayor of London? He was elected for two goes at it so he must have had something going for him. Perhaps it’s because he was in my view considerably better than his predecessor (or indeed his successor)?
You keep using this expression ‘fall apart’. What’s fallen apart’? The country has left the EU. A new Cabinet is being formed, HS2 in to continue.
If in a years time there is no food in the shops, no petrol, stagflation has taken hold and the economy has collapsed, you will have cause to celebrate. | | | |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 20:50 - Feb 14 with 7471 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 10:30 - Feb 14 by No9 |
A very scary appointment
Another brown-nose with intent |
Daft racist |  |
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| Sajid Javid is gone on 09:43 - Feb 15 with 7368 views | r2d2 |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 17:46 - Feb 14 by GlasgowBlue |
She is still our problem and our responsibility. |
She ceased being our responsibility when she chose to go out there. | | | |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 10:19 - Feb 15 with 7343 views | Herbivore |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 09:43 - Feb 15 by r2d2 |
She ceased being our responsibility when she chose to go out there. |
No she didn't. |  |
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| Sajid Javid is gone on 10:52 - Feb 15 with 7328 views | tractordownsouth |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 09:43 - Feb 15 by r2d2 |
She ceased being our responsibility when she chose to go out there. |
So then these Jamaican criminals are our responsibility... it's not difficult to work out | |
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| Sajid Javid is gone on 11:01 - Feb 15 with 7312 views | The_Last_Baron |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 10:19 - Feb 15 by Herbivore |
No she didn't. |
It's a good job Corbyn didn't take power or else she'd be back already with a token suspended sentence to boot and all the trimmings of a tax payer funded lifestyle.
She won't be coming back, I know its upsetting for some but the people at large don't like terrorists very much.
I'm off to drink a large tangible gin...very strong stuff, 52% proof. | |
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| Sajid Javid is gone on 11:05 - Feb 15 with 7299 views | r2d2 |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 10:52 - Feb 15 by tractordownsouth |
So then these Jamaican criminals are our responsibility... it's not difficult to work out |
There is no argument, she isnt a UK citizen. No more of tax payers money should be wasted on it. | | | |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 11:07 - Feb 15 with 7297 views | tractordownsouth |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 11:05 - Feb 15 by r2d2 |
There is no argument, she isnt a UK citizen. No more of tax payers money should be wasted on it. |
Because we stripped her of it... she was a UK citizen when she committed the crimes, and these Jamaicans were Jamaican citizens when they committed their crimes. We accept responsibility one or the other, not neither. | |
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| Sajid Javid is gone on 11:08 - Feb 15 with 7289 views | tractordownsouth |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 11:01 - Feb 15 by The_Last_Baron |
It's a good job Corbyn didn't take power or else she'd be back already with a token suspended sentence to boot and all the trimmings of a tax payer funded lifestyle.
She won't be coming back, I know its upsetting for some but the people at large don't like terrorists very much.
I'm off to drink a large tangible gin...very strong stuff, 52% proof. |
No one is upset that terrorists aren't coming back, we're just asking for consistency. To suggest we are is pretty disgraceful on your part.
Got those Brexit benefits yet? | |
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| Sajid Javid is gone on 11:14 - Feb 15 with 7277 views | r2d2 |
| Sajid Javid is gone on 11:07 - Feb 15 by tractordownsouth |
Because we stripped her of it... she was a UK citizen when she committed the crimes, and these Jamaicans were Jamaican citizens when they committed their crimes. We accept responsibility one or the other, not neither. |
Time to get tough. This country has been soft for far too long. Its about time we stood up and said enough is enough. Still wringing your hands over brexit no doubt ?! | | | |
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