Where does constantly calling oppo players..... on 12:08 - Feb 21 with 3130 views | Bloots |
Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 10:17 - Feb 21 by BrixtonBlue | We haven't played Brighton in a few years so my point stands there. I've personally never heard the Toto chant and wouldn't know about it if it hadn't been discussed on here. The Delia song doesn't fit under any of racist, homophobic or Xenophobic. Not even sure it's misogynistic is it? |
....refs and linos a "nonce" fit? I've heard that on numerous occasions recently. Seems to be the "go to" insult for kids these days. | |
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Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 12:09 - Feb 21 with 3134 views | Chondzoresk | Quite interesting reading “it doesn’t happen” my step son was verbally abused and being told he was an IRA sympathiser...for holding an Irish flag up. LSBR. We complained to the club, they are aware. And the perpetrator tracked down. So, yes it does happen, even when you do bleed blue. | | | |
Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 12:26 - Feb 21 with 3090 views | jayessess |
Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 09:55 - Feb 21 by BrixtonBlue | I must say, in Lower North I haven't heard anything homophobic in years, and don't think I've ever heard anything racist or Xenophobic. Surprising. |
I heard the "hanging in his shed" song about Justin Fashanu a couple of times last season. | |
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Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 12:33 - Feb 21 with 3068 views | Ryorry |
Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 12:09 - Feb 21 by Chondzoresk | Quite interesting reading “it doesn’t happen” my step son was verbally abused and being told he was an IRA sympathiser...for holding an Irish flag up. LSBR. We complained to the club, they are aware. And the perpetrator tracked down. So, yes it does happen, even when you do bleed blue. |
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/LSBR Thread brief detour - curious to know which of the above, or alternative, LSBR is! | |
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Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 12:34 - Feb 21 with 3065 views | MattinLondon |
Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 09:55 - Feb 21 by 26_Paz | Now that is abuse. |
I’m not sure if you’ve ever been racially abused but it’s not nice. In fact it’s degrading and really quite humiliating. Thankfully it doesn’t happen all that often at all at PR - in my experience that is. But one or two racist, homophobic etc chants is too many and deserves to be stamped upon. I do recall reading a thread from a poster on here (sorry I’ve forgotten the name) but he happened to be gay and was fearful to go to matches because of a couple of ‘fans’ who knew that he was gay. That is totally unacceptable. The club has a duty to raise this and if necessary ban the culprit(s) for life. Calling a player s**t is one thing but abusing his colour or sexuality is abhorrent. In one of your comments you mentioned that it’s ridiculous to say that all four parts of the stadium are hotbeds of hate - just because people aren’t throwing bananas at black players it does not mean that more subtle forms of racism or xenophobia doesn’t happen. The RAF song directed at German players, the continued chants of ENGLAND directed at foreign players all just as bad. In the past I’ve heard the ‘get your tits out’ directed towards some women - again awful. Everything has a beginning and an end. The end is the monkey chants the beginning is casual abuse. Nip it in the bud before it starts. I don’t think that Ipswich has a large scale problem but we all know that we have ema dozen or so idiots. Please don’t think I’m targeting you but some of your threads do seem to downplay the clubs right to take action. | | | |
nice straw man on 12:38 - Feb 21 with 3048 views | Ryorry |
nice straw man on 09:28 - Feb 21 by artsbossbeard | Bring some books Saturday (or comics) and we can burn them on the practice pitch. |
Thread detour #2 - any suggestions for books or comics to burn? 🤔 My first choice would be | |
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Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 12:46 - Feb 21 with 3015 views | 26_Paz |
Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 12:34 - Feb 21 by MattinLondon | I’m not sure if you’ve ever been racially abused but it’s not nice. In fact it’s degrading and really quite humiliating. Thankfully it doesn’t happen all that often at all at PR - in my experience that is. But one or two racist, homophobic etc chants is too many and deserves to be stamped upon. I do recall reading a thread from a poster on here (sorry I’ve forgotten the name) but he happened to be gay and was fearful to go to matches because of a couple of ‘fans’ who knew that he was gay. That is totally unacceptable. The club has a duty to raise this and if necessary ban the culprit(s) for life. Calling a player s**t is one thing but abusing his colour or sexuality is abhorrent. In one of your comments you mentioned that it’s ridiculous to say that all four parts of the stadium are hotbeds of hate - just because people aren’t throwing bananas at black players it does not mean that more subtle forms of racism or xenophobia doesn’t happen. The RAF song directed at German players, the continued chants of ENGLAND directed at foreign players all just as bad. In the past I’ve heard the ‘get your tits out’ directed towards some women - again awful. Everything has a beginning and an end. The end is the monkey chants the beginning is casual abuse. Nip it in the bud before it starts. I don’t think that Ipswich has a large scale problem but we all know that we have ema dozen or so idiots. Please don’t think I’m targeting you but some of your threads do seem to downplay the clubs right to take action. |
I don't think you are targeting me at all and there's some very good points in here. Thanks, its certainly food for thought. Far more so than those on here who just call me 'thick'. | |
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Where does constantly calling oppo players..... on 13:21 - Feb 21 with 2976 views | BrixtonBlue |
Where does constantly calling oppo players..... on 12:08 - Feb 21 by Bloots | ....refs and linos a "nonce" fit? I've heard that on numerous occasions recently. Seems to be the "go to" insult for kids these days. |
Not sure it fits any of those categories does it? Not personally heard it myself. | |
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Hear it a lot..... on 13:27 - Feb 21 with 2976 views | Bloots |
Where does constantly calling oppo players..... on 13:21 - Feb 21 by BrixtonBlue | Not sure it fits any of those categories does it? Not personally heard it myself. |
....a specific occasion was Col U away in the Trophy match. Their keeper was getting it fairly consistently from about a dozen or so divs, as was the ref. Strange bunch really. | |
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Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 13:56 - Feb 21 with 2934 views | GeoffSentence |
Not sure if I am due a whoosh here, but Lower Sir Bobby Robson, clearly given the context. | |
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Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 13:57 - Feb 21 with 2921 views | BrixtonBlue |
Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 12:26 - Feb 21 by jayessess | I heard the "hanging in his shed" song about Justin Fashanu a couple of times last season. |
I've not heard that for about 20 years, thankfully. | |
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Hear it a lot..... on 14:00 - Feb 21 with 2904 views | BrixtonBlue |
Hear it a lot..... on 13:27 - Feb 21 by Bloots | ....a specific occasion was Col U away in the Trophy match. Their keeper was getting it fairly consistently from about a dozen or so divs, as was the ref. Strange bunch really. |
Strange indeed. | |
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Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 14:03 - Feb 21 with 2899 views | Swailsey |
Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 13:57 - Feb 21 by BrixtonBlue | I've not heard that for about 20 years, thankfully. |
I think this is the difficult thing. In the last year I've heard: Shed song Toto song Homophobic slurs Sexist slurs Racist slurs I'm not remotely saying that there is an epidemic within ITFC fans, but it DOES happen. If I have heard it, others will have too - given the reports. It happens everywhere, in all walks of life. I'm not saying you're saying this, but the attitude of "I haven't heard it, so it isn't a thing" is really problematic. It happens. It should get called out. I truly don't understand why people are so quick to find any reason to discredit these things (again not directed at you). They occur. People say these things. It doesn't have to be a chant. [Post edited 21 Feb 2020 14:15]
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Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 14:21 - Feb 21 with 2852 views | Ryorry |
Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 13:56 - Feb 21 by GeoffSentence | Not sure if I am due a whoosh here, but Lower Sir Bobby Robson, clearly given the context. |
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Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 14:26 - Feb 21 with 2840 views | artsbossbeard |
Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 14:03 - Feb 21 by Swailsey | I think this is the difficult thing. In the last year I've heard: Shed song Toto song Homophobic slurs Sexist slurs Racist slurs I'm not remotely saying that there is an epidemic within ITFC fans, but it DOES happen. If I have heard it, others will have too - given the reports. It happens everywhere, in all walks of life. I'm not saying you're saying this, but the attitude of "I haven't heard it, so it isn't a thing" is really problematic. It happens. It should get called out. I truly don't understand why people are so quick to find any reason to discredit these things (again not directed at you). They occur. People say these things. It doesn't have to be a chant. [Post edited 21 Feb 2020 14:15]
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fair points, well made. Have I heard any? No. Do I believe that such chants/shout happen? Yes. | |
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Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 14:44 - Feb 21 with 2804 views | carlisleaway |
Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 14:21 - Feb 21 by Ryorry | |
The hard core are in the EOE lower stand amongst the senior and junior fans..... what will we hear next. | | | |
Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 15:18 - Feb 21 with 2760 views | BrixtonBlue |
Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 14:03 - Feb 21 by Swailsey | I think this is the difficult thing. In the last year I've heard: Shed song Toto song Homophobic slurs Sexist slurs Racist slurs I'm not remotely saying that there is an epidemic within ITFC fans, but it DOES happen. If I have heard it, others will have too - given the reports. It happens everywhere, in all walks of life. I'm not saying you're saying this, but the attitude of "I haven't heard it, so it isn't a thing" is really problematic. It happens. It should get called out. I truly don't understand why people are so quick to find any reason to discredit these things (again not directed at you). They occur. People say these things. It doesn't have to be a chant. [Post edited 21 Feb 2020 14:15]
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I agree, I'm just cautioning that we don't need to make this a bigger thing than it is. I guess by not having heard this stuff then it seems to me to be a small number of idiots that don't happen to be near me. Absolutely they should be dealt with, even just one of these offensive chants/shouts is one too many, but we should be careful not to come across like ITFC has a real problem which may put people off attending. I guess it's a fine line. I also guess if reports have come in from all 4 stands then it must be a bigger thing than I've realised, so I could be barking up the wrong tree here. | |
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Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 15:24 - Feb 21 with 2753 views | Swailsey |
Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 15:18 - Feb 21 by BrixtonBlue | I agree, I'm just cautioning that we don't need to make this a bigger thing than it is. I guess by not having heard this stuff then it seems to me to be a small number of idiots that don't happen to be near me. Absolutely they should be dealt with, even just one of these offensive chants/shouts is one too many, but we should be careful not to come across like ITFC has a real problem which may put people off attending. I guess it's a fine line. I also guess if reports have come in from all 4 stands then it must be a bigger thing than I've realised, so I could be barking up the wrong tree here. |
Hard as well as there's also echo-room syndrome isn't it. The people I hang around with wouldn't say these things, so it can be easy to think it doesn't happen. When I do hear something it's shocking and very out of the norm and I imagine it happens around me more than I have heard as well. | |
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Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 17:23 - Feb 21 with 2678 views | Doctor_Earman | It would be nice if we could actually be given some solid evidence of this happening on repeated occasions. Otherwise it just looks like virtue signalling from the club. | | | |
Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 19:06 - Feb 21 with 2643 views | MattinLondon |
Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 17:23 - Feb 21 by Doctor_Earman | It would be nice if we could actually be given some solid evidence of this happening on repeated occasions. Otherwise it just looks like virtue signalling from the club. |
No it doesn’t. I’m guessing the club would rather not do this as it looks bad | | | |
Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 19:10 - Feb 21 with 2635 views | mrshallisfit |
Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 09:36 - Feb 21 by BlueBadger | Why be so defensive over this? surely it's a good thing that the club are acting on this and being honest about it? |
Methinks the cretin protests too much. | | | |
Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 19:14 - Feb 21 with 2624 views | mrshallisfit |
Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 10:40 - Feb 21 by 26_Paz | Where have I said the club are lying?! They've clearly had reports, I'm not saying they've made it up! I'm just saying I don't think its a massive issue. Perhaps they are over reacting to a few busy body over sensitive fans? |
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Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 00:30 - Feb 22 with 2544 views | jeera |
Racist, homophobic & Xenophobic chants at Fortress PR on the increase on 17:23 - Feb 21 by Doctor_Earman | It would be nice if we could actually be given some solid evidence of this happening on repeated occasions. Otherwise it just looks like virtue signalling from the club. |
Holy Sh1t. That doesn't even make sense. 'Virtual signalling by the club'? You think the club wants to advertise its own fans as racist or xenophobic or homophobic or whatever? Then you cry when people call you stupid. [Post edited 22 Feb 2020 0:39]
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nice straw man on 07:41 - Feb 22 with 2487 views | blueconscience |
nice straw man on 09:26 - Feb 21 by 26_Paz | Don't go near that Britannia stand mate, its lawless. Welcome to hell. |
I have heard that the Britannia stand is like a scene from “The Purge” on Amazon prime!!! [Post edited 22 Feb 2020 7:42]
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