| Mid table championship 08:04 - Feb 26 with 4167 views | londontractorboy57 |
2 seasons ago we were a mid table championship club that some fans in their Infinite wisdom decided they didn't like the style of football so they hounded the manager out.
2 seasons later a relegated league 1 team still playing hoof ball that can only beat teams below us.
Where is the benefit in we would be better being relegated?
There's more chance of league 2 than getting back in championship let alone
Premier league.
Welcome back to toxic Portman Rd.
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| Mid table championship on 08:12 - Feb 26 with 3473 views | Chrisd |
These types of posts are quite pointless. We all know where we've fallen from. It's how we're going to get back there where our energy should be focused on, not on this historical nonsense. | |
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| Mid table championship on 08:14 - Feb 26 with 3458 views | artsbossbeard |
| Mid table championship on 08:12 - Feb 26 by Chrisd |
These types of posts are quite pointless. We all know where we've fallen from. It's how we're going to get back there where our energy should be focused on, not on this historical nonsense. |
They're only pointless if the fans don't hold their collective hands up and say "yeah, you know what? A lot of this is on us". |  |
| Please note: prior to hitting the post button, I've double checked for anything that could be construed as "Anti Semitic" and to the best of my knowledge it isn't. Anything deemed to be of a Xenophobic nature is therefore purely accidental or down to your own misconstruing. | | Poll: | Raining in IP8 - shall I get the washing in? |
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| Mid table championship on 08:18 - Feb 26 with 3426 views | Chrisd |
| Mid table championship on 08:14 - Feb 26 by artsbossbeard |
They're only pointless if the fans don't hold their collective hands up and say "yeah, you know what? A lot of this is on us". |
Yes, because that's going to make a huge difference. If we all admit that, will it instantly catapult us back to the Championship? Just wasted, negative energy. Lets keep going over the past and dwell on that. Sounds a terrific idea! | |
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| Mid table championship on 08:20 - Feb 26 with 3419 views | artsbossbeard |
| Mid table championship on 08:18 - Feb 26 by Chrisd |
Yes, because that's going to make a huge difference. If we all admit that, will it instantly catapult us back to the Championship? Just wasted, negative energy. Lets keep going over the past and dwell on that. Sounds a terrific idea! |
Well, it's all pretty positive on here without this getting dragged up.
Please feel free to ignore this though. | |
| Please note: prior to hitting the post button, I've double checked for anything that could be construed as "Anti Semitic" and to the best of my knowledge it isn't. Anything deemed to be of a Xenophobic nature is therefore purely accidental or down to your own misconstruing. | | Poll: | Raining in IP8 - shall I get the washing in? |
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| Mid table championship on 08:23 - Feb 26 with 3401 views | Metal_Hacker |
End of a bell |  |
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| Mid table championship on 08:23 - Feb 26 with 3399 views | Chrisd |
| Mid table championship on 08:20 - Feb 26 by artsbossbeard |
Well, it's all pretty positive on here without this getting dragged up.
Please feel free to ignore this though. |
Will do! | |
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| Mid table championship on 08:31 - Feb 26 with 3359 views | Ftnfwest |
Wanting a better style of football is asking for too much and we deserve League 2 Football as a result? Should have just sat down, shut up and wished for nothing. |  | | |
| Mid table championship on 08:34 - Feb 26 with 3338 views | WarkTheWarkITFC |
What would you do if stuck in an unhappy relationship?
Or if you were miserable in your job?
Or life in general?
Making a decision to move on from a relationship, job, football manager is fine on its merits. Our issue is what came next.
We are entitled to not be happy with being a boring mid-table side. Fans tolerated being a boring play off side and would have tolerated being an entertaining mid-table side.
But it's not wrong to dream of more. A club that stands around 25th in the all time English table and is essentially, historically a top half Championship team with the odd top flight season is allowed to dream of making a jump of 5 or 6 places to get back there don't you think?
It's not exactly Charlton wanting Curbs out when 7th in the Premier League.
The damage has been made in appointing Hurst and Lambert, not getting rid of Mick. | |
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| Mid table championship on 13:21 - Feb 26 with 3178 views | londontractorboy57 |
| Mid table championship on 08:34 - Feb 26 by WarkTheWarkITFC |
What would you do if stuck in an unhappy relationship?
Or if you were miserable in your job?
Or life in general?
Making a decision to move on from a relationship, job, football manager is fine on its merits. Our issue is what came next.
We are entitled to not be happy with being a boring mid-table side. Fans tolerated being a boring play off side and would have tolerated being an entertaining mid-table side.
But it's not wrong to dream of more. A club that stands around 25th in the all time English table and is essentially, historically a top half Championship team with the odd top flight season is allowed to dream of making a jump of 5 or 6 places to get back there don't you think?
It's not exactly Charlton wanting Curbs out when 7th in the Premier League.
The damage has been made in appointing Hurst and Lambert, not getting rid of Mick. |
If they hadnt honded mick out you would not of had to make the mistake of Employing Hurst or Lambert. | | | |
| Mid table championship on 13:34 - Feb 26 with 3133 views | RonFearonsHair |
| Mid table championship on 13:21 - Feb 26 by londontractorboy57 |
If they hadnt honded mick out you would not of had to make the mistake of Employing Hurst or Lambert. |
It’s patently obvious that Mick had no interest in a new contract and would have left anyway. To be fair, he played the fans and the media brilliantly over the final six months, as can still be seen today. |  | | |
| Mid table championship on 13:37 - Feb 26 with 3126 views | SouperJim |
| Mid table championship on 08:14 - Feb 26 by artsbossbeard |
They're only pointless if the fans don't hold their collective hands up and say "yeah, you know what? A lot of this is on us". |
Oh do behave. We have to be one of the most tolerant sets of fans in the world. Attributing our current plight to the fans in any significant way is frankly rather silly. Are you actually arguing that we should have been content with 10+ years of mediocrity in the second tier? The only person ultimately responsible for how the club have performed in the face of mild supporter unrest is... Marcus Evans. |  |
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| Mid table championship on 13:44 - Feb 26 with 3115 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
Ah man, this is becoming a boring repetitive topic. Some fans wanted change, to save themselves from boredom and a mundane cycle every week at Portman Road, some people wanted to roll the dice and see if there was different direction the club could have gone in. Is that terrible as a fan? Not really.
Look, Mick did a great job on a budget here, but its ok for football fans to see if the grass is greener. It didn't work out, we went with a young, up and coming manager who had a great CV but walked into the changing room and dropped a grenade.
I'm not a ranter or raver at games, I don't boo nor shout, however, ultimately Evans and MM got the message that fans wanted MM to leave because they voiced there opinions louder whilst the rest sat in silence or wrote a thread on it.
This is 2 years ago, a club continually moves on after managers. I love now things have gone wrong people come out of the woodwork posting BCWYWF.
We are club, up or down together. [Post edited 26 Feb 2020 13:45]
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| Mid table championship on 13:48 - Feb 26 with 3091 views | rickw |
| Mid table championship on 13:44 - Feb 26 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
Ah man, this is becoming a boring repetitive topic. Some fans wanted change, to save themselves from boredom and a mundane cycle every week at Portman Road, some people wanted to roll the dice and see if there was different direction the club could have gone in. Is that terrible as a fan? Not really.
Look, Mick did a great job on a budget here, but its ok for football fans to see if the grass is greener. It didn't work out, we went with a young, up and coming manager who had a great CV but walked into the changing room and dropped a grenade.
I'm not a ranter or raver at games, I don't boo nor shout, however, ultimately Evans and MM got the message that fans wanted MM to leave because they voiced there opinions louder whilst the rest sat in silence or wrote a thread on it.
This is 2 years ago, a club continually moves on after managers. I love now things have gone wrong people come out of the woodwork posting BCWYWF.
We are club, up or down together. [Post edited 26 Feb 2020 13:45]
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I couldn't say it better! |  |
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| Mid table championship on 13:49 - Feb 26 with 3082 views | marchy |
| Mid table championship on 13:21 - Feb 26 by londontractorboy57 |
If they hadnt honded mick out you would not of had to make the mistake of Employing Hurst or Lambert. |
no b/c mick wud of stayed 4ever b/c he loved us so much he wud of turnd down the irland job 2 stay n help us 4ever if we just b nice 2 him | | | |
| Mid table championship on 13:58 - Feb 26 with 3025 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| Mid table championship on 08:14 - Feb 26 by artsbossbeard |
They're only pointless if the fans don't hold their collective hands up and say "yeah, you know what? A lot of this is on us". |
I've never quite understood this approach on here, that some look for apologies as an effort to prove they were right all along. It is a discussion board where some opinions will be proven right and some will be proven wrong at different times.
It seems a very egotistical approach. [Post edited 26 Feb 2020 14:01]
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| Mid table championship on 14:02 - Feb 26 with 3006 views | artsbossbeard |
| Mid table championship on 13:37 - Feb 26 by SouperJim |
Oh do behave. We have to be one of the most tolerant sets of fans in the world. Attributing our current plight to the fans in any significant way is frankly rather silly. Are you actually arguing that we should have been content with 10+ years of mediocrity in the second tier? The only person ultimately responsible for how the club have performed in the face of mild supporter unrest is... Marcus Evans. |
This argument works if we're still in the same division or even promoted to the PL.
It was time for Mick to go, agreed. What is apparent is that Mick could handle both 1st team affairs and DoF type stuff.
Evans trusting PH to do the same was asking for trouble especially when you couple this with losing a couple of big players as they couldn't work with PH and replacing them with, well players we've got now. | |
| Please note: prior to hitting the post button, I've double checked for anything that could be construed as "Anti Semitic" and to the best of my knowledge it isn't. Anything deemed to be of a Xenophobic nature is therefore purely accidental or down to your own misconstruing. | | Poll: | Raining in IP8 - shall I get the washing in? |
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| Mid table championship on 14:20 - Feb 26 with 2957 views | 44_not_out |
| Mid table championship on 13:44 - Feb 26 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
Ah man, this is becoming a boring repetitive topic. Some fans wanted change, to save themselves from boredom and a mundane cycle every week at Portman Road, some people wanted to roll the dice and see if there was different direction the club could have gone in. Is that terrible as a fan? Not really.
Look, Mick did a great job on a budget here, but its ok for football fans to see if the grass is greener. It didn't work out, we went with a young, up and coming manager who had a great CV but walked into the changing room and dropped a grenade.
I'm not a ranter or raver at games, I don't boo nor shout, however, ultimately Evans and MM got the message that fans wanted MM to leave because they voiced there opinions louder whilst the rest sat in silence or wrote a thread on it.
This is 2 years ago, a club continually moves on after managers. I love now things have gone wrong people come out of the woodwork posting BCWYWF.
We are club, up or down together. [Post edited 26 Feb 2020 13:45]
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Much of what you say is spot on!
However, it would be much more productive if your final sentence is highlighted....
‘We are a club, up or down together’
Sadly the toxicity that is now prevalent within the stadium is having an effect in the players and will ultimately be our downfall. The players were visibly not wanting the ball the longer the game went on against Oxford.
We have 11 games to overhaul 9 points...... it is very doable but needs everyone behind it. We often hear that the crowd can be that ‘12th man’; sadly our ‘12th man’ was no where to be seen in the final 15 minutes on Saturday.
I suppose it too easy for some to just give up! | | | |
| Mid table championship on 14:28 - Feb 26 with 2938 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Idiots like you looking forward to struggling in the second division again rather than taking it for granted?
That's quite a big plus. | |
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| Mid table championship on 14:37 - Feb 26 with 2899 views | artsbossbeard |
| Mid table championship on 13:49 - Feb 26 by marchy |
no b/c mick wud of stayed 4ever b/c he loved us so much he wud of turnd down the irland job 2 stay n help us 4ever if we just b nice 2 him |
Anyone speak Jive? | |
| Please note: prior to hitting the post button, I've double checked for anything that could be construed as "Anti Semitic" and to the best of my knowledge it isn't. Anything deemed to be of a Xenophobic nature is therefore purely accidental or down to your own misconstruing. | | Poll: | Raining in IP8 - shall I get the washing in? |
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| Mid table championship on 14:37 - Feb 26 with 2893 views | SouperJim |
| Mid table championship on 14:02 - Feb 26 by artsbossbeard |
This argument works if we're still in the same division or even promoted to the PL.
It was time for Mick to go, agreed. What is apparent is that Mick could handle both 1st team affairs and DoF type stuff.
Evans trusting PH to do the same was asking for trouble especially when you couple this with losing a couple of big players as they couldn't work with PH and replacing them with, well players we've got now. |
I agree completely - the fans didn't appoint Paul Hurst, Evans did. We succeed or fail as a result of his appointments. The fact that he was trying to do what he thought the fans wanted is academic. The fans don't get to interview candidates, do any homework on them and decide whether or not to appoint. Neither are they expected to be competent at doing so, or have the power to appoint someone who is to lead the club in their stead.
It's akin to punching someone in the face for saying "surprise me", then telling them it's their own fault. BCWYWF!
Evans is a crap owner. Deep pockets and he means well, but he's clueless. | |
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| Mid table championship on 14:43 - Feb 26 with 2868 views | braveblue |
Yawn. By the way two years ago we had fallen to our worst position in 50 years. So don’t pretend all was good. | | | |
| Mid table championship on 14:46 - Feb 26 with 2846 views | PJH |
| Mid table championship on 14:43 - Feb 26 by braveblue |
Yawn. By the way two years ago we had fallen to our worst position in 50 years. So don’t pretend all was good. |
No, a lot better but agree not all was good.
That lowest finish thingy has now been "improved" upon twice since. |  | | |
| Mid table championship on 14:49 - Feb 26 with 2835 views | WarkTheWarkITFC |
| Mid table championship on 14:46 - Feb 26 by PJH |
No, a lot better but agree not all was good.
That lowest finish thingy has now been "improved" upon twice since. |
That's a helpful indicator of recent performance by Evans and the last three managers for you.
The last three seasons (by the time this one is completed) would have seen us to our lowest finish in 50 years in each of them.
If that's not enough for fans to turn on Evans then what is? It's his strategy that has allowed that to be possible and his managerial appointments that have confirmed it as inevitable. | |
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| Mid table championship on 16:48 - Feb 26 with 2708 views | norfsufblue |
| Mid table championship on 08:34 - Feb 26 by WarkTheWarkITFC |
What would you do if stuck in an unhappy relationship?
Or if you were miserable in your job?
Or life in general?
Making a decision to move on from a relationship, job, football manager is fine on its merits. Our issue is what came next.
We are entitled to not be happy with being a boring mid-table side. Fans tolerated being a boring play off side and would have tolerated being an entertaining mid-table side.
But it's not wrong to dream of more. A club that stands around 25th in the all time English table and is essentially, historically a top half Championship team with the odd top flight season is allowed to dream of making a jump of 5 or 6 places to get back there don't you think?
It's not exactly Charlton wanting Curbs out when 7th in the Premier League.
The damage has been made in appointing Hurst and Lambert, not getting rid of Mick. |
Absolutely this! Nailed it |  | | |
| Mid table championship on 20:38 - Feb 26 with 2594 views | londontractorboy57 |
| Mid table championship on 08:12 - Feb 26 by Chrisd |
These types of posts are quite pointless. We all know where we've fallen from. It's how we're going to get back there where our energy should be focused on, not on this historical nonsense. |
gets people talking though | | | |
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