| Never ever ever say a manager has a 23:07 - Feb 29 with 7261 views | Bluefish |
Free hit of over half a season again. It was ridiculously tin pot and we are still being destroyed because of it.
Worst manager ever. It didn't need 9th place in league 1 to see that |  |
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| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 23:11 - Feb 29 with 4625 views | MrTown |
We are tinpot? |  |
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| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 23:18 - Feb 29 with 4581 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Oooooooh, get you. |  |
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| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 00:32 - Mar 1 with 4499 views | Illinoisblue |
We won 3 games less than bankrupt Bolton. Nae normal. |  |
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| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 00:46 - Mar 1 with 4468 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
Probably a little harsh to say worst manager ever, certainly a terrible way this season has turned out.
Club is in a sorry state whoever comes and goes as manager though.
Unfortunately though, you’re going to have to get used to him, I think he’ll be here long term, rightly or wrongly, Evans has backed him with a 5 year deal. |  |
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| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 01:50 - Mar 1 with 4407 views | Guthrum |
The free hit was not the problem. McCarthy had similar when he first arrived. It's the complete balls-up he's making of the subsequent season, when we should have been (and, for the first part, were*) very competitive in a lower division.
* Which only makes it worse. [Post edited 1 Mar 2020 1:51]
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| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 04:20 - Mar 1 with 4308 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 01:50 - Mar 1 by Guthrum |
The free hit was not the problem. McCarthy had similar when he first arrived. It's the complete balls-up he's making of the subsequent season, when we should have been (and, for the first part, were*) very competitive in a lower division.
* Which only makes it worse. [Post edited 1 Mar 2020 1:51]
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McCarthy didn’t have a free hit. He was hired to keep us up, and did so with aplomb. Lambert was hired under the same circumstances, failed abysmally, and yet had people bending over themselves to make excuses for him when actually all the warning signs were there that he’s simply no longer a good football manager |  |
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| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 07:56 - Mar 1 with 4054 views | homer_123 |
| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 01:50 - Mar 1 by Guthrum |
The free hit was not the problem. McCarthy had similar when he first arrived. It's the complete balls-up he's making of the subsequent season, when we should have been (and, for the first part, were*) very competitive in a lower division.
* Which only makes it worse. [Post edited 1 Mar 2020 1:51]
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As I have said. He's now had two runs where, any other club would have sacked him. [Post edited 1 Mar 2020 7:58]
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| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 08:06 - Mar 1 with 3976 views | itfcjoe |
Think it is more what it became rather than what it was intended to be |  |
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| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 08:30 - Mar 1 with 3845 views | Bluefish |
| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 08:06 - Mar 1 by itfcjoe |
Think it is more what it became rather than what it was intended to be |
I find the posters turning on PRP en masse now to be bizarre. Everything is exactly the same as what he served up last season where they adored him. Now they say it is awful football and a mess etc. It always was and the denial how to fuel the spiral. | |
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| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 08:53 - Mar 1 with 3769 views | Ftnfwest |
| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 00:46 - Mar 1 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
Probably a little harsh to say worst manager ever, certainly a terrible way this season has turned out.
Club is in a sorry state whoever comes and goes as manager though.
Unfortunately though, you’re going to have to get used to him, I think he’ll be here long term, rightly or wrongly, Evans has backed him with a 5 year deal. |
With Evans record, even if he did sack him, what confidence could we have that the right replacement would be appointed |  | | |
| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 09:18 - Mar 1 with 3689 views | Mullet |
| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 04:20 - Mar 1 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
McCarthy didn’t have a free hit. He was hired to keep us up, and did so with aplomb. Lambert was hired under the same circumstances, failed abysmally, and yet had people bending over themselves to make excuses for him when actually all the warning signs were there that he’s simply no longer a good football manager |
Quite, a lot of people gave Mick no chance and this then became "he had the best squad / DJ Campbell / better XYZ" than Hurst or Lambert. The fact is what he did was sensational because he's a much better manager.
Lambert took us down with zero fight and spending big money, he said "judge me after 3 windows" and the only verdict can be he's failed dismally. The squad is in a perilous state because he inherited that way in a Championship context, but he has continued that by not showing a clear plan for those who he bought or moving on those not good enough or needed.
Plenty buried their heads to the warning signs with Hurst and are repeating that with Lambert because they are still invested in anti-MM posturing and their own egos. Those who clapped the players off yesterday so gleefully absolutely baffle me.
It wasn't necessarily that this game deserved violent disdain, but the fact it was season over and the failures of this season writ large that some still seem to be ignoring. |  |
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| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 09:27 - Mar 1 with 3645 views | jayessess |
I do genuinely think it's weird how sanguine the club was about last season. We all decided Hurst was an absolute fraud who had to be sacked after a 13 games because he'd lost the dressing room, recruited badly and was tactically inept. The next guy comes in and we take *even fewer points*. Alarm bells should be ringing at that point. |  |
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| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 09:50 - Mar 1 with 3579 views | Guthrum |
| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 09:18 - Mar 1 by Mullet |
Quite, a lot of people gave Mick no chance and this then became "he had the best squad / DJ Campbell / better XYZ" than Hurst or Lambert. The fact is what he did was sensational because he's a much better manager.
Lambert took us down with zero fight and spending big money, he said "judge me after 3 windows" and the only verdict can be he's failed dismally. The squad is in a perilous state because he inherited that way in a Championship context, but he has continued that by not showing a clear plan for those who he bought or moving on those not good enough or needed.
Plenty buried their heads to the warning signs with Hurst and are repeating that with Lambert because they are still invested in anti-MM posturing and their own egos. Those who clapped the players off yesterday so gleefully absolutely baffle me.
It wasn't necessarily that this game deserved violent disdain, but the fact it was season over and the failures of this season writ large that some still seem to be ignoring. |
That's what i meant about McCarthy having a free hit. Nobody much would have blamed him if he had failed to keep us up, given the circumstances and morale of the squad. However he not only succeeded, but did so handsomely. | |
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| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 10:38 - Mar 1 with 3513 views | Guthrum |
| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 08:30 - Mar 1 by Bluefish |
I find the posters turning on PRP en masse now to be bizarre. Everything is exactly the same as what he served up last season where they adored him. Now they say it is awful football and a mess etc. It always was and the denial how to fuel the spiral. |
But that is to ignore both the fundamentally changed circumstances and the way things started this season.
Lambert has now had a summer window to rearrange his squad (during which he brought in the top scorer in the EFL and an excellent young fullback), plus we are in a lower division, which should be of an easier standard than the Championship. Not saying it should have been a walk in the park, but certainly a more favourable environment.
And we did start very well. Eleven games undefeated. Clear at the top of the table with the tightest defence in the division. Things started to go wrong, we had a bad spell, but even as late as 25th January, not much more than a month ago, we had risen back to the top of League One. We were still doing the job even then.
It's the following run of five losses from seven games - also including a goalless draw at 20th-placed Wimbledon - which has really turned almost everyone now. The precipitous plummet down the table and out of the play-off places.
You can claim to having foretold events, yes. But up until just thirty-six days ago, you were the one being proved wrong. | |
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| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 10:45 - Mar 1 with 3489 views | Bluefish |
| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 10:38 - Mar 1 by Guthrum |
But that is to ignore both the fundamentally changed circumstances and the way things started this season.
Lambert has now had a summer window to rearrange his squad (during which he brought in the top scorer in the EFL and an excellent young fullback), plus we are in a lower division, which should be of an easier standard than the Championship. Not saying it should have been a walk in the park, but certainly a more favourable environment.
And we did start very well. Eleven games undefeated. Clear at the top of the table with the tightest defence in the division. Things started to go wrong, we had a bad spell, but even as late as 25th January, not much more than a month ago, we had risen back to the top of League One. We were still doing the job even then.
It's the following run of five losses from seven games - also including a goalless draw at 20th-placed Wimbledon - which has really turned almost everyone now. The precipitous plummet down the table and out of the play-off places.
You can claim to having foretold events, yes. But up until just thirty-six days ago, you were the one being proved wrong. |
Utterly bizarre take. You seem to be carrying on the thought that the bad times are the blip. We have been an absolute mess under PRP from the start to now, we have never looked convincing and never looked as though we have any direction or strategy on the pitch. Take away the PR stunts and he has been a disaster. A few of us were explaining how concerning theblacknof fight was and how the free hit wasn't being used to build something progressive. This season we explained the performances weren't and it wouldn't last, it is ridiculous to all jump on board how and say those comments don't count. It has been the Emporer's New Clothes throughout it is time to get some reality of what you have been supporting. | |
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| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 10:55 - Mar 1 with 3462 views | Guthrum |
| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 10:45 - Mar 1 by Bluefish |
Utterly bizarre take. You seem to be carrying on the thought that the bad times are the blip. We have been an absolute mess under PRP from the start to now, we have never looked convincing and never looked as though we have any direction or strategy on the pitch. Take away the PR stunts and he has been a disaster. A few of us were explaining how concerning theblacknof fight was and how the free hit wasn't being used to build something progressive. This season we explained the performances weren't and it wouldn't last, it is ridiculous to all jump on board how and say those comments don't count. It has been the Emporer's New Clothes throughout it is time to get some reality of what you have been supporting. |
Were we or were we not top of the division on 25th January? Have we not suffered a drastic crash since that date, resulting in us dropping even out of the playoff places?
You were asking why people are only turning en masse now. That is your answer.
There was still a general feeling that we could get out of League One up to that point, even if there was growing uneasiness about tactics and performances. Now it looks pretty certain we will not do it, being unlikely to succeed even if we did scrape into the play-offs. All in the space of about a month.
I wasn't saying anything about blips, it's that the chance of promotion has pretty much gone. | |
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| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 10:58 - Mar 1 with 3454 views | Bluefish |
| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 10:55 - Mar 1 by Guthrum |
Were we or were we not top of the division on 25th January? Have we not suffered a drastic crash since that date, resulting in us dropping even out of the playoff places?
You were asking why people are only turning en masse now. That is your answer.
There was still a general feeling that we could get out of League One up to that point, even if there was growing uneasiness about tactics and performances. Now it looks pretty certain we will not do it, being unlikely to succeed even if we did scrape into the play-offs. All in the space of about a month.
I wasn't saying anything about blips, it's that the chance of promotion has pretty much gone. |
It is a terrible take to support obvious failings because of the league table when it was so obvious it wasn't sustainable. All comments in the future about managers and teams could be done by just looking at the tables, I realise that football isn't for everyone but that just isn't football. | |
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| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 11:00 - Mar 1 with 3440 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 08:53 - Mar 1 by Ftnfwest |
With Evans record, even if he did sack him, what confidence could we have that the right replacement would be appointed |
Zero. Absolutely zero. | |
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| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 11:02 - Mar 1 with 3432 views | goalhanger |
Shambert has to be the most overrated manager in the PL. A specialist in failure. Everywhere he goes he fails, resigns or leaves by mutual consent. A total clown.
He is Damien of The Omen. A walking disaster area.
Wycombe, Colchester, Norwich, Villa, Blackburn, Wolves and Stoke. Failure every time.
He needs only one more season to usher us into Lg.2.
Cut our losses now and get rid. |  | | |
| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 11:03 - Mar 1 with 3427 views | upandatem |
to be honest it doesn't matter what length his contract is, if the vast majority of the crowd turns on him, vocally at games, the owner will have very little choice but to get rid.
I'm interested what you guys think would be an acceptable outcome of the season for you to give him "a free hit at next season"
Promotion or finishing in playoffs and not quite making it? | | | |
| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 11:05 - Mar 1 with 3419 views | Bluefish |
| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 11:02 - Mar 1 by goalhanger |
Shambert has to be the most overrated manager in the PL. A specialist in failure. Everywhere he goes he fails, resigns or leaves by mutual consent. A total clown.
He is Damien of The Omen. A walking disaster area.
Wycombe, Colchester, Norwich, Villa, Blackburn, Wolves and Stoke. Failure every time.
He needs only one more season to usher us into Lg.2.
Cut our losses now and get rid. |
When you tell people outside EA that you support Ipswich:
Under Mick - "Mick will always get it right"
Under Hurst - "who? Never heard of him"
Under Shambert - "oh dear" followed by a sympathetic look | |
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| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 11:11 - Mar 1 with 3392 views | Guthrum |
| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 10:58 - Mar 1 by Bluefish |
It is a terrible take to support obvious failings because of the league table when it was so obvious it wasn't sustainable. All comments in the future about managers and teams could be done by just looking at the tables, I realise that football isn't for everyone but that just isn't football. |
The league table is the ultimate arbiter of a team's (and a manager's) success. Literally nothing else counts come the end of the season.
I'm not saying you were wrong about performances and sustainability, but for the first couple of months of the season and again in January, results were pointing the other way. It looked like we would succeed even despite the issues you were pointing out. They were things which could be dealt with later. | |
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| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 11:24 - Mar 1 with 3366 views | SonOfSpock |
| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 04:20 - Mar 1 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
McCarthy didn’t have a free hit. He was hired to keep us up, and did so with aplomb. Lambert was hired under the same circumstances, failed abysmally, and yet had people bending over themselves to make excuses for him when actually all the warning signs were there that he’s simply no longer a good football manager |
We were relegated before Lambert arrived.
You simply can't allow the amount of players to leave of championship quality before Hurst arrived, to then be replaced by tat quality - some of which is so poor they've been loaned out. |  | | |
| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 11:48 - Mar 1 with 3322 views | jayessess |
| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 11:24 - Mar 1 by SonOfSpock |
We were relegated before Lambert arrived.
You simply can't allow the amount of players to leave of championship quality before Hurst arrived, to then be replaced by tat quality - some of which is so poor they've been loaned out. |
No one is relegated after 13 games. I have a lot of sympathy with the idea that the squad was so poor that it was unlikely anyone would've kept us up. What I don't get is why Lambert was given such a pass for taking fewer points per game than Hurst did.
You have - via motivation, organisation, tactics, team selection, shrewd recruitment - lots of different ways of having *some* impact on a below standard squad. He had none. | |
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| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 12:07 - Mar 1 with 3280 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Never ever ever say a manager has a on 10:38 - Mar 1 by Guthrum |
But that is to ignore both the fundamentally changed circumstances and the way things started this season.
Lambert has now had a summer window to rearrange his squad (during which he brought in the top scorer in the EFL and an excellent young fullback), plus we are in a lower division, which should be of an easier standard than the Championship. Not saying it should have been a walk in the park, but certainly a more favourable environment.
And we did start very well. Eleven games undefeated. Clear at the top of the table with the tightest defence in the division. Things started to go wrong, we had a bad spell, but even as late as 25th January, not much more than a month ago, we had risen back to the top of League One. We were still doing the job even then.
It's the following run of five losses from seven games - also including a goalless draw at 20th-placed Wimbledon - which has really turned almost everyone now. The precipitous plummet down the table and out of the play-off places.
You can claim to having foretold events, yes. But up until just thirty-six days ago, you were the one being proved wrong. |
Well said. I've logged in just to up-arrow this. I think we're all fed up of Blubfish and his pathetic look-at-me posturing. Even a stopped clock's right sometimes. |  |
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