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Is this cartoon racist? 07:24 - Mar 9 with 12332 viewsGlasgowBlue


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Is this cartoon racist? on 07:26 - Mar 9 with 3822 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Nope....a little unfair on pigs regarding Boris though. Next.

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Is this cartoon racist? on 07:28 - Mar 9 with 3805 viewsitfcjoe

I don’t like how it’s been cropped as like that does look bad, but the cartoonist, I presume deliberately, included Johnson in full which somewhat changes it

I personally would say it is crass, but not sure why it is racist


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Is this cartoon racist? on 07:29 - Mar 9 with 3800 viewsstickymockwell

No!
The context is that they think she evil and If my thinking is right, the racist part is that the cow is sacred in her religion but It wasn’t probably even thought of by the cartoonist so how can it be racist?

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Is this cartoon racist? on 07:30 - Mar 9 with 3779 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Is this cartoon racist? on 07:28 - Mar 9 by itfcjoe

I don’t like how it’s been cropped as like that does look bad, but the cartoonist, I presume deliberately, included Johnson in full which somewhat changes it

I personally would say it is crass, but not sure why it is racist



Oh Boris is a bull too....shame!

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Is this cartoon racist? on 07:34 - Mar 9 with 3763 viewsGlasgowBlue

Is this cartoon racist? on 07:29 - Mar 9 by stickymockwell

No!
The context is that they think she evil and If my thinking is right, the racist part is that the cow is sacred in her religion but It wasn’t probably even thought of by the cartoonist so how can it be racist?


Steve Bell has form for racist cartoons so to say that her religion didn’t come into his thinking is naive.

I don’t see any difference between this portrayal of Hindi woman and that of Serena Williams last year.
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Is this cartoon racist? on 07:36 - Mar 9 with 3752 viewsGlasgowBlue

Is this cartoon racist? on 07:28 - Mar 9 by itfcjoe

I don’t like how it’s been cropped as like that does look bad, but the cartoonist, I presume deliberately, included Johnson in full which somewhat changes it

I personally would say it is crass, but not sure why it is racist



If a cartoonist drew Diane Abbott as a monkey but also included Corbyn portrayed in the same way next to her, would that change it?

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Is this cartoon racist? on 07:36 - Mar 9 with 3747 viewsfooters

Is this cartoon racist? on 07:34 - Mar 9 by GlasgowBlue

Steve Bell has form for racist cartoons so to say that her religion didn’t come into his thinking is naive.

I don’t see any difference between this portrayal of Hindi woman and that of Serena Williams last year.
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Or they're just being portrayed as bulls in a china shop?

It's really not racist.

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Is this cartoon racist? on 07:38 - Mar 9 with 3738 viewsHerbivore

Is this cartoon racist? on 07:36 - Mar 9 by GlasgowBlue

If a cartoonist drew Diane Abbott as a monkey but also included Corbyn portrayed in the same way next to her, would that change it?


Black people being monkeys is a racist trope. I'm not aware of Asian people as bulls being a racist trope.

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Is this cartoon racist? on 07:40 - Mar 9 with 3720 viewsGlasgowBlue

Is this cartoon racist? on 07:38 - Mar 9 by Herbivore

Black people being monkeys is a racist trope. I'm not aware of Asian people as bulls being a racist trope.


A bull is sacred in Priti Patel’s religion. Bell is not a stupid man.

What was your view of the Serena Williams cartoon?
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Is this cartoon racist? on 07:43 - Mar 9 with 3703 viewsHerbivore

Is this cartoon racist? on 07:40 - Mar 9 by GlasgowBlue

A bull is sacred in Priti Patel’s religion. Bell is not a stupid man.

What was your view of the Serena Williams cartoon?
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That clearly also drew on racist tropes. Are Asian people ever referred to as bulls as a way of demeaning them? Are they frequently portrayed as bulls as a means of dehumanising them? I'm not aware that they are.

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Is this cartoon racist? on 07:46 - Mar 9 with 3676 viewsGlasgowBlue

Is this cartoon racist? on 07:43 - Mar 9 by Herbivore

That clearly also drew on racist tropes. Are Asian people ever referred to as bulls as a way of demeaning them? Are they frequently portrayed as bulls as a means of dehumanising them? I'm not aware that they are.


It would be offensive to portray a Jew or a Muslim as a pig. Portraying a Hindi as a cow/bull applies equally imo.

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Is this cartoon racist? on 07:47 - Mar 9 with 3667 viewsvapour_trail

Is this cartoon racist? on 07:43 - Mar 9 by Herbivore

That clearly also drew on racist tropes. Are Asian people ever referred to as bulls as a way of demeaning them? Are they frequently portrayed as bulls as a means of dehumanising them? I'm not aware that they are.


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Is this cartoon racist? on 07:48 - Mar 9 with 3655 viewsHerbivore

Is this cartoon racist? on 07:46 - Mar 9 by GlasgowBlue

It would be offensive to portray a Jew or a Muslim as a pig. Portraying a Hindi as a cow/bull applies equally imo.


I don't disagree that it's offensive.

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Is this cartoon racist? on 07:50 - Mar 9 with 3640 viewsGlasgowBlue

Is this cartoon racist? on 07:47 - Mar 9 by vapour_trail

Whilst this is a reply to you, it’s a request to the wider board community, please don’t feed the monkey.








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Is this cartoon racist? on 07:51 - Mar 9 with 3627 viewsGlasgowBlue

Is this cartoon racist? on 07:48 - Mar 9 by Herbivore

I don't disagree that it's offensive.


Fair enough.

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Is this cartoon racist? on 07:51 - Mar 9 with 3627 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Is this cartoon racist? on 07:36 - Mar 9 by GlasgowBlue

If a cartoonist drew Diane Abbott as a monkey but also included Corbyn portrayed in the same way next to her, would that change it?


If he drew Patel as a monkey it would change things....epic fail GB.

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Is this cartoon racist? on 07:51 - Mar 9 with 3618 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Is this cartoon racist? on 07:40 - Mar 9 by GlasgowBlue

A bull is sacred in Priti Patel’s religion. Bell is not a stupid man.

What was your view of the Serena Williams cartoon?
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The sound of goal posts being moved.

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Is this cartoon racist? on 07:55 - Mar 9 with 3591 viewsGlasgowBlue

Is this cartoon racist? on 07:51 - Mar 9 by BanksterDebtSlave

If he drew Patel as a monkey it would change things....epic fail GB.


The British Tamil Conservatives added: ‘This cartoon is offensive on every level. — It’s anti-Hindu. It portrays the Home Secretary, of Hindu origin as a cow. A sacred symbol for Hindus. — Its racist and — misogynist. It’s plainly unacceptable! It may constitute a hate crime.’

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Is this cartoon racist? on 07:55 - Mar 9 with 3587 viewsNo9

Is this cartoon racist? on 07:34 - Mar 9 by GlasgowBlue

Steve Bell has form for racist cartoons so to say that her religion didn’t come into his thinking is naive.

I don’t see any difference between this portrayal of Hindi woman and that of Serena Williams last year.
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Isn't it the Cow that has sanctity in Hinduism ?

The Bull has meanings in other religions / mythology as Taurus
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Is this cartoon racist? on 08:06 - Mar 9 with 3503 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Is this cartoon racist? on 07:55 - Mar 9 by GlasgowBlue

The British Tamil Conservatives added: ‘This cartoon is offensive on every level. — It’s anti-Hindu. It portrays the Home Secretary, of Hindu origin as a cow. A sacred symbol for Hindus. — Its racist and — misogynist. It’s plainly unacceptable! It may constitute a hate crime.’


Which....

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Is this cartoon racist? on 08:07 - Mar 9 with 3499 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Is this cartoon racist? on 07:55 - Mar 9 by GlasgowBlue

The British Tamil Conservatives added: ‘This cartoon is offensive on every level. — It’s anti-Hindu. It portrays the Home Secretary, of Hindu origin as a cow. A sacred symbol for Hindus. — Its racist and — misogynist. It’s plainly unacceptable! It may constitute a hate crime.’


....makes them wrong....

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Is this cartoon racist? on 08:07 - Mar 9 with 3492 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Is this cartoon racist? on 07:55 - Mar 9 by GlasgowBlue

The British Tamil Conservatives added: ‘This cartoon is offensive on every level. — It’s anti-Hindu. It portrays the Home Secretary, of Hindu origin as a cow. A sacred symbol for Hindus. — Its racist and — misogynist. It’s plainly unacceptable! It may constitute a hate crime.’


...too!

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Is this cartoon racist? on 08:11 - Mar 9 with 3468 viewsGlasgowBlue

Is this cartoon racist? on 08:07 - Mar 9 by BanksterDebtSlave

...too!


Not like you to tell a minority group that they are wrong about the racism that affects them Banksy.

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Is this cartoon racist? on 08:15 - Mar 9 with 3439 viewsitfcjoe

Is this cartoon racist? on 07:36 - Mar 9 by GlasgowBlue

If a cartoonist drew Diane Abbott as a monkey but also included Corbyn portrayed in the same way next to her, would that change it?


I think that's a stretch to conflate the two personally.

I could see more racism, by far, in the Serena Williams one - but even that wasn't one that I thought was actually racist. Again just crass

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Is this cartoon racist? on 08:20 - Mar 9 with 3391 viewsvapour_trail

Is this cartoon racist? on 07:50 - Mar 9 by GlasgowBlue







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A little ironic.

You might want to leave a little longer for these sort of retorts. It might otherwise give the impression that you’ve prepared them in advance, which isn’t a great look.

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