Question about enforced closures..... 21:10 - Mar 14 with 1892 views | allezlesbleus | If a lockdown occurs and only essential businesses are allowed to remain open, what happens about pay for staff who aren't allowed to go to work? Obviously the government announced earlier in the week that if you had symptons of the virus, you need to self-isolate for 1 week and you would receive the statutory sick pay from day one. So if the government forces shops, offices, bars, restaurants etc to close, does the employer still have to pay their staff their full daily wage? | | | | |
Question about enforced closures..... on 21:13 - Mar 14 with 1846 views | noggin | Why are the UK advising 1 week isolation, when other countries are enforcing 2 weeks? | |
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Question about enforced closures..... on 21:15 - Mar 14 with 1828 views | WD19 | Depends on the terms under which they are engaged. | | | |
Question about enforced closures..... on 21:15 - Mar 14 with 1828 views | allezlesbleus |
Question about enforced closures..... on 21:13 - Mar 14 by noggin | Why are the UK advising 1 week isolation, when other countries are enforcing 2 weeks? |
As I was typing this, I put 2 weeks and then thought I'd better double check and it is only 1 week. | | | |
Question about enforced closures..... on 21:17 - Mar 14 with 1821 views | allezlesbleus |
Question about enforced closures..... on 21:15 - Mar 14 by WD19 | Depends on the terms under which they are engaged. |
I assume if the employees are contracted, then the employer is liable to pay the full pay. I can see a lot of small companies going under very quickly if that is the case. | | | |
Question about enforced closures..... on 21:17 - Mar 14 with 1828 views | Guthrum | Statutory Sick Pay (£94.25 per week). Which is not enough to live on if you have to pay rent, etc. Unless you don't qualify or are self-employed. In which case you get nothing until (or if) Universal Credit pays out after 6 weeks. Possibility of Employment Support Allowance if you're actually sick (£73.10 for over 25s, £57.90 if under) and can get through the assessment process without losing your marbles. | |
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Question about enforced closures..... on 21:19 - Mar 14 with 1822 views | Guthrum |
Question about enforced closures..... on 21:13 - Mar 14 by noggin | Why are the UK advising 1 week isolation, when other countries are enforcing 2 weeks? |
Because the UK is more concerned about not trashing its economy than dealing with the disease as effectively as possible with minimum casualties. | |
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Question about enforced closures..... on 21:19 - Mar 14 with 1808 views | noggin |
Question about enforced closures..... on 21:17 - Mar 14 by Guthrum | Statutory Sick Pay (£94.25 per week). Which is not enough to live on if you have to pay rent, etc. Unless you don't qualify or are self-employed. In which case you get nothing until (or if) Universal Credit pays out after 6 weeks. Possibility of Employment Support Allowance if you're actually sick (£73.10 for over 25s, £57.90 if under) and can get through the assessment process without losing your marbles. |
That is awful. | |
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Question about enforced closures..... on 21:19 - Mar 14 with 1810 views | vapour_trail |
Question about enforced closures..... on 21:13 - Mar 14 by noggin | Why are the UK advising 1 week isolation, when other countries are enforcing 2 weeks? |
2 weeks if you have it or have been to certain parts of the world, 1 week if you are untested but have symptoms of some sort - anyone with a new cough for example. | |
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Question about enforced closures..... on 21:19 - Mar 14 with 1808 views | allezlesbleus |
Question about enforced closures..... on 21:17 - Mar 14 by Guthrum | Statutory Sick Pay (£94.25 per week). Which is not enough to live on if you have to pay rent, etc. Unless you don't qualify or are self-employed. In which case you get nothing until (or if) Universal Credit pays out after 6 weeks. Possibility of Employment Support Allowance if you're actually sick (£73.10 for over 25s, £57.90 if under) and can get through the assessment process without losing your marbles. |
There are going to be some massive social / personal problems all over. Hard to know what the answer is. | | | |
Question about enforced closures..... on 21:20 - Mar 14 with 1788 views | vapour_trail | To the OP, short answer is no. | |
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Question about enforced closures..... on 21:20 - Mar 14 with 1787 views | Guthrum |
Question about enforced closures..... on 21:13 - Mar 14 by noggin | Why are the UK advising 1 week isolation, when other countries are enforcing 2 weeks? |
Actually, to be fair, the average incubation period for C-19 is 5 days. | |
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Question about enforced closures..... on 21:22 - Mar 14 with 1772 views | Trequartista |
Question about enforced closures..... on 21:13 - Mar 14 by noggin | Why are the UK advising 1 week isolation, when other countries are enforcing 2 weeks? |
I think if you have the symptoms, you have contracted the virus 5 days earlier, and your infectiousness falls off a cliff 5 days after you show symptoms (average figures). | |
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Question about enforced closures..... on 21:22 - Mar 14 with 1761 views | J2BLUE |
Question about enforced closures..... on 21:20 - Mar 14 by Guthrum | Actually, to be fair, the average incubation period for C-19 is 5 days. |
95% of cases within 5.2 days apparently | |
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Question about enforced closures..... on 22:01 - Mar 14 with 1629 views | Melford |
Question about enforced closures..... on 21:17 - Mar 14 by Guthrum | Statutory Sick Pay (£94.25 per week). Which is not enough to live on if you have to pay rent, etc. Unless you don't qualify or are self-employed. In which case you get nothing until (or if) Universal Credit pays out after 6 weeks. Possibility of Employment Support Allowance if you're actually sick (£73.10 for over 25s, £57.90 if under) and can get through the assessment process without losing your marbles. |
I'm lucky in that I've still got 3 weeks holiday left to take, so hopefully any if any closure happens I can ride it out on that. I don't know how it's going to work, we can't just shut down the kitchen with a couple of grand in stock in the fridges left to rot for potentially a couple of weeks. There would have to be a couple of days grace before it kicks into to prepare otherwise every kitchen is going to be a massive public health risk on when we're let back open again, it's not like closing an office down. All perishable items will have to be removed. | |
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Question about enforced closures..... on 22:04 - Mar 14 with 1618 views | noggin |
Question about enforced closures..... on 22:01 - Mar 14 by Melford | I'm lucky in that I've still got 3 weeks holiday left to take, so hopefully any if any closure happens I can ride it out on that. I don't know how it's going to work, we can't just shut down the kitchen with a couple of grand in stock in the fridges left to rot for potentially a couple of weeks. There would have to be a couple of days grace before it kicks into to prepare otherwise every kitchen is going to be a massive public health risk on when we're let back open again, it's not like closing an office down. All perishable items will have to be removed. |
My local pub (closed indefinitely) has donated all the perishable food to the needy locals. | |
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Question about enforced closures..... on 22:12 - Mar 14 with 1597 views | monytowbray |
Question about enforced closures..... on 21:19 - Mar 14 by Guthrum | Because the UK is more concerned about not trashing its economy than dealing with the disease as effectively as possible with minimum casualties. |
That’s the long and short of it. Never has the divide we’ve created between the rich and the rest of us ever been so exposed. And still 36% of people still trust Boris. We’re in a dystopian novel I swear. | |
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Question about enforced closures..... on 22:12 - Mar 14 with 1598 views | Guthrum |
Question about enforced closures..... on 22:01 - Mar 14 by Melford | I'm lucky in that I've still got 3 weeks holiday left to take, so hopefully any if any closure happens I can ride it out on that. I don't know how it's going to work, we can't just shut down the kitchen with a couple of grand in stock in the fridges left to rot for potentially a couple of weeks. There would have to be a couple of days grace before it kicks into to prepare otherwise every kitchen is going to be a massive public health risk on when we're let back open again, it's not like closing an office down. All perishable items will have to be removed. |
I think one of the problems with the tone of what the Government is doing to prepare for isolation/lockdown is an assumption that everyone is an employee, works in an office and can do their job remotely. There's a fair chunk of the workforce not in that position. | |
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Question about enforced closures..... on 22:18 - Mar 14 with 1574 views | WD19 |
Question about enforced closures..... on 22:12 - Mar 14 by monytowbray | That’s the long and short of it. Never has the divide we’ve created between the rich and the rest of us ever been so exposed. And still 36% of people still trust Boris. We’re in a dystopian novel I swear. |
Callis, protecting the economy is not about the rich and the poor. It is about ensuring we are in the best possible place to take care of as many people as possible long into the future. | | | |
Question about enforced closures..... on 22:28 - Mar 14 with 1536 views | jaykay |
Question about enforced closures..... on 22:12 - Mar 14 by Guthrum | I think one of the problems with the tone of what the Government is doing to prepare for isolation/lockdown is an assumption that everyone is an employee, works in an office and can do their job remotely. There's a fair chunk of the workforce not in that position. |
also they think we all have a min. of 2 bathrooms | |
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