Finish the season now 12:22 - Mar 16 with 5448 views | itfcjoe | Top 3 go up Bottom 3 go down Roll on 20/21 Life isn’t fair, pandemics aren’t fair, football isn’t fair - why the need to over complicate it if it goes on for much longer I think either void or finish the season as is, and finishing it as is seems much fairer | |
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Finish the season now on 12:26 - Mar 16 with 2803 views | tractorboy1978 | Just started a similar thread - I agree. The approach will have to be agreed right across Europe though (or France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Netherlands anyway) so that we stay roughly on the same season timeframe. | | | |
Finish the season now on 12:36 - Mar 16 with 2722 views | TheTrueBlue1878 | That isn't going to happen. The amount of lawsuits that will be slapped at the Premier League and EFL would be ridiculous. Finish the season behind closed doors is my honest answer. But the longer it goes on, the more likely it will be Null and Void. | |
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Finish the season now on 12:38 - Mar 16 with 2723 views | JakeITFC | I would say of all the possible scenarios, this is the one that makes the least sense. | | | |
Finish the season now on 12:39 - Mar 16 with 2711 views | Lesta_Tractor | Have the top and bottom 3 played the same number of games? If not, it should be done on average points. GD could also be averaged. | |
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Finish the season now on 12:40 - Mar 16 with 2702 views | itfcjoe |
Finish the season now on 12:38 - Mar 16 by JakeITFC | I would say of all the possible scenarios, this is the one that makes the least sense. |
Really? Less sense than null and void? | |
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Finish the season now on 12:40 - Mar 16 with 2702 views | PJH |
Finish the season now on 12:38 - Mar 16 by JakeITFC | I would say of all the possible scenarios, this is the one that makes the least sense. |
Any scenario that gets Naarwich out of the top division is fine with me. | | | |
Finish the season now on 12:42 - Mar 16 with 2685 views | tractorboy1978 |
Finish the season now on 12:36 - Mar 16 by TheTrueBlue1878 | That isn't going to happen. The amount of lawsuits that will be slapped at the Premier League and EFL would be ridiculous. Finish the season behind closed doors is my honest answer. But the longer it goes on, the more likely it will be Null and Void. |
If the decision is made above their heads (i.e by UEFA) then any lawsuits can't be aimed at them. You are right that the Premier League/EFL won't make that decision though. There will be complaints whatever is done to be honest. Behind closed doors and 'home advantage' is lost, clubs still have to incur certain costs to put the game on but have no revenue making opportunity etc. And all of this is before even considering contracts for players run until 30 June. [Post edited 16 Mar 2020 12:43]
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Finish the season now on 12:42 - Mar 16 with 2687 views | itfcjoe |
Finish the season now on 12:36 - Mar 16 by TheTrueBlue1878 | That isn't going to happen. The amount of lawsuits that will be slapped at the Premier League and EFL would be ridiculous. Finish the season behind closed doors is my honest answer. But the longer it goes on, the more likely it will be Null and Void. |
There are going to be lawsuits either way - but at some point Football needs to start again across Europe basically in some form of unison. Where teams are now seems fairest, if this is going to drag on for months which seems likely, finishing the season becomes almost impossible (and unnecessary given how much could change in squad make ups, contracts etc) | |
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Finish the season now on 12:43 - Mar 16 with 2680 views | clive_baker |
Finish the season now on 12:39 - Mar 16 by Lesta_Tractor | Have the top and bottom 3 played the same number of games? If not, it should be done on average points. GD could also be averaged. |
If you're going to start adjusting for that, you might aswell factor in who teams have played and got left. Arguments around how hard the different run ins etc are could get very sticky. I don't see a good reason to sack this season off to be honest, we might as well conclude it when that time comes and compromise elements of next season, depending on timings. The priority must be to finish this season credibly and without compromise. Why should a season that hasn't started yet take priority over concluding this one? It's all a bit of a moot point until timings are better known anyway. | |
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Finish the season now on 12:43 - Mar 16 with 2672 views | hampstead_blue | I like the sentiment but imagine the queue to the Law Courts! Lawyers will be rubbing their hands if that happened. | |
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But think of teams like Oxford, Fulham or Chelsea on 12:45 - Mar 16 with 2655 views | unstableblue | In better form than the team in the position above, and close to replacing them | |
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Finish the season now on 12:45 - Mar 16 with 2649 views | JakeITFC |
Finish the season now on 12:40 - Mar 16 by itfcjoe | Really? Less sense than null and void? |
Yeah, from a sporting integrity point of view it’s just not right imo - can’t see it not being challenged in the courts. | | | |
Finish the season now on 12:46 - Mar 16 with 2641 views | tractorboy1978 |
Finish the season now on 12:43 - Mar 16 by clive_baker | If you're going to start adjusting for that, you might aswell factor in who teams have played and got left. Arguments around how hard the different run ins etc are could get very sticky. I don't see a good reason to sack this season off to be honest, we might as well conclude it when that time comes and compromise elements of next season, depending on timings. The priority must be to finish this season credibly and without compromise. Why should a season that hasn't started yet take priority over concluding this one? It's all a bit of a moot point until timings are better known anyway. |
Can it finish credibly? I am not sure it can. And you then run into next season being a bit of a farce as well - seen suggestions of playing every team once, either home or away. That's not a credible competition. | | | |
Finish the season now on 12:47 - Mar 16 with 2631 views | TRUE_BLUE123 | No way. Void it if anything. Imagine a team is one point in the relegation zone and goes down, where their fixtures may be favourable. Same for teams close to automatics. Clubs lose money and people lose their jobs. | |
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Finish the season now on 12:48 - Mar 16 with 2625 views | Hullblue | I agree with you in principle, but how will EFL teams survive without the cash from the remaining games? I think we have to play the games ASAP - in front of crowds too - even if that means restarting the rest of this season in September. The Premier League could loan clubs money until then. Ideally they'd just give them the money, of course, but I can't see that happening. Then we'd just have to ditch the league cup and EFL trophy for next year - still a bit of a revenue hit but nowhere near the same impact as ten league games. We'd have too many games next year but that's what U23/academy players are for. The contract situation is difficult - I think we'd just have to let them run out as normal, and have a transfer window at the normal time. Not ideal because this could drastically affect the end of the season but I don't see a better way, as you can't make players stay past their expiry dates. | |
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Finish the season now on 12:49 - Mar 16 with 2610 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
Finish the season now on 12:42 - Mar 16 by tractorboy1978 | If the decision is made above their heads (i.e by UEFA) then any lawsuits can't be aimed at them. You are right that the Premier League/EFL won't make that decision though. There will be complaints whatever is done to be honest. Behind closed doors and 'home advantage' is lost, clubs still have to incur certain costs to put the game on but have no revenue making opportunity etc. And all of this is before even considering contracts for players run until 30 June. [Post edited 16 Mar 2020 12:43]
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I would have thought behind closed doors will bring the least complaints, but financially clubs at the lower end of the spectrum would need to be financially subsidised. | |
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Finish the season now on 12:51 - Mar 16 with 2608 views | Swansea_Blue | Sounds like a great idea to me. The trouble is, as others have pointed out, there's so much to lose through relegation. I'd argue that that teams have had 3/4 season , so the current tables are a fair reflection of level. But you just know that teams in the relegation spots would fight against it. Yet again, it's the massive financial inequality in the game that's causing the problems. | |
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Finish the season now on 12:55 - Mar 16 with 2578 views | PrideOfTheEast |
Finish the season now on 12:40 - Mar 16 by itfcjoe | Really? Less sense than null and void? |
Null and void makes more sense to me given it's incomplete. | | | |
Finish the season now on 12:58 - Mar 16 with 2562 views | Vaughan8 | Nah I don't think that's right. Just move the transfer window to a different time (so if free transfers want to move in July, they can but can't play!) until a certain time and finish the season at a later date. Then the 20-21 season has to be some weird season which I have no idea what to do. Play each other only once? Glad I don't have to decide this. Whatever happens it will be "unfair" to some people. EDIT: Also, in the lower leagues, not everyone has played the same number of games. .e Doncaster or Wycombe could argue they could get up to 3rd. Maybe you just do a massive league "playoff" or something. God knows. [Post edited 16 Mar 2020 13:12]
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Finish the season now on 13:00 - Mar 16 with 2545 views | itfcjoe |
Finish the season now on 12:55 - Mar 16 by PrideOfTheEast | Null and void makes more sense to me given it's incomplete. |
The simplest solution is often the best. Null and void achieves nothing for me and doesn’t let things move on. Every club in the promotion or relegation positions should have begun preparations for next season as it is. | |
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Finish the season now on 13:01 - Mar 16 with 2539 views | BiGDonnie | How about we take the form table from the last 20 games and promote and relegate those in the top/bottom three? Probably fairer. | |
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Finish the season now on 13:02 - Mar 16 with 2535 views | tractorboy1978 |
Finish the season now on 12:58 - Mar 16 by Vaughan8 | Nah I don't think that's right. Just move the transfer window to a different time (so if free transfers want to move in July, they can but can't play!) until a certain time and finish the season at a later date. Then the 20-21 season has to be some weird season which I have no idea what to do. Play each other only once? Glad I don't have to decide this. Whatever happens it will be "unfair" to some people. EDIT: Also, in the lower leagues, not everyone has played the same number of games. .e Doncaster or Wycombe could argue they could get up to 3rd. Maybe you just do a massive league "playoff" or something. God knows. [Post edited 16 Mar 2020 13:12]
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Whatever happens, the approach will have to be unanimously agreed across Europe, which probably means this decision will ultimately fall above the heads of anybody in this country (irony not lost on me given the past couple of years!). | | | |
Finish the season now on 13:02 - Mar 16 with 2536 views | vapour_trail |
Finish the season now on 12:40 - Mar 16 by itfcjoe | Really? Less sense than null and void? |
Null and void the only possible outcome for me. It’s nowhere near certain we will be able to play football in time for the new season as it is. The bigger worry, from a football perspective is the number of clubs, right down through the pyramid, who will go to the wall by then. | |
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Finish the season now on 13:04 - Mar 16 with 2516 views | monty_radio | So, for example, Bournemouth go down by virtue of one goal, having expected to have 9 games left to redeem themselves. Life isn't fair perhaps, but sport has rules to ensure that opportunity on the pitch is equal, even if form and skill-levels dictate otherwise. Using Bournemouth as my example still, I've always thought that when they do eventually drop, they'll fall, never again to rise to such levels - as in the case of such as Wimbledon, Notts County, Oldham etc. Imagine then, being a Cherries fan, if that fall is brought on by a curtailment that sends them down as things currently stand, by one goal, with the remaining nine chances scotched. | |
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Finish the season now on 13:06 - Mar 16 with 2502 views | gordon | I think that this season is likely just going to be finished next season, and then a smaller competition (without relegation and promotion) added in next year if there is time. | | | |
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