| Wow 17:21 - Mar 20 with 9008 views | itfcjoe |
Incredible package there from the Govt, hopefully helps a lot of people out |  |
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| Wow on 18:24 - Mar 20 with 2917 views | monytowbray |
| Wow on 18:17 - Mar 20 by itfcjoe |
Self assessment deferred until next year, as is VAT which may help some of the bigger ones
Then just removal of income floor so they can claim SSP etc
A tough demographic to look after though |
It is as some freelancers make a killing and some don’t. Would be hard to work out an average salary for me as I have no set hours and it differs month to month.
I am lucky I can still work really.
I also hope that these measures get split equally in the recovery phase and we close tax loopholes too. The last thing we need is deeper austerity after a recession.
I’m glad businesses I love will still be alive when we are out. Would have been sh1t to come back to a life of less culture and entertainment. |  |
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| Wow on 18:28 - Mar 20 with 2908 views | vapour_trail |
| Wow on 18:22 - Mar 20 by Oxford_Blue |
You’re not serious???
They’ve just announced measures that are staggering and will cost hundreds and hundreds of billions but benefit millions.
Yet you criticise? |
It is ok the look for the gaps I think. |  |
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| Wow on 18:33 - Mar 20 with 2894 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| Wow on 18:24 - Mar 20 by monytowbray |
It is as some freelancers make a killing and some don’t. Would be hard to work out an average salary for me as I have no set hours and it differs month to month.
I am lucky I can still work really.
I also hope that these measures get split equally in the recovery phase and we close tax loopholes too. The last thing we need is deeper austerity after a recession.
I’m glad businesses I love will still be alive when we are out. Would have been sh1t to come back to a life of less culture and entertainment. |
Which tax loopholes are you referring to? |  | | |
| Wow on 18:35 - Mar 20 with 2883 views | monytowbray |
| Wow on 18:33 - Mar 20 by PrideOfTheEast |
Which tax loopholes are you referring to? |
Is this a serious question? | |
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| Wow on 18:53 - Mar 20 with 2816 views | PrideOfTheEast |
So you’re referring, I think (since you’ve just linked a very vague article from a long time ago and the tax world has moved on more than ever in that period), to profit shifting which is of course largely being addressed by the OECD’s BEPs actions that the UK government is committed to implementing. | | | |
| Wow on 19:01 - Mar 20 with 2797 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Yes and no. It appears to be of no help to people on zero hours contracts, 'gig economy' or the self employed. Which is the majority of the country I suspect. And over a million people in the hospitality sector have already been 'let go'. Thatis just the start as the entire country now depends on 'just in time' philosphies that work well in normal times but collapse like a deck of cards at times like this.
Plus there is no such thing as a free lunch -this will all have to be paid for AND the government will hopefully wake up to the fact that healthcare is important and also has to be paid for. | |
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| Wow on 19:11 - Mar 20 with 2776 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Wow on 19:01 - Mar 20 by ElephantintheRoom |
Yes and no. It appears to be of no help to people on zero hours contracts, 'gig economy' or the self employed. Which is the majority of the country I suspect. And over a million people in the hospitality sector have already been 'let go'. Thatis just the start as the entire country now depends on 'just in time' philosphies that work well in normal times but collapse like a deck of cards at times like this.
Plus there is no such thing as a free lunch -this will all have to be paid for AND the government will hopefully wake up to the fact that healthcare is important and also has to be paid for. |
Oh isn't it? A big problem if not. They're about 20% of the workforce (and the most vulnerable). |  |
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| Wow on 19:18 - Mar 20 with 2747 views | monytowbray |
| Wow on 18:53 - Mar 20 by PrideOfTheEast |
So you’re referring, I think (since you’ve just linked a very vague article from a long time ago and the tax world has moved on more than ever in that period), to profit shifting which is of course largely being addressed by the OECD’s BEPs actions that the UK government is committed to implementing. |
Always something being done but nothing gets done. | |
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| Wow on 19:18 - Mar 20 with 2748 views | giant_stow |
| Wow on 19:11 - Mar 20 by Swansea_Blue |
Oh isn't it? A big problem if not. They're about 20% of the workforce (and the most vulnerable). |
Starting to feel like a delibrate snub. Hey ho, dry my eyes and all that... |  |
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| Wow on 19:19 - Mar 20 with 2754 views | ghostofescobar |
I accept I will get down votes here, and I completely accept it is the right thing to do now, but what a depressing shame the Tories couldn’t find some money over the past decade to help the less well off in society. Suddenly now, there is an bottomless pit of cash. I accept, it’s needed, it’s the right thing to do. But wasn’t it the right thing to do when the less fortunate needed some help and not demonising and being starved of help? The poor have been well and truly fvcked over the past decade, with the mantra that we can’t borrow, that austerity is good. It was the only way forward. How screwed is that? |  |
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| Wow on 19:34 - Mar 20 with 2719 views | Double_Dutch |
| Wow on 19:01 - Mar 20 by ElephantintheRoom |
Yes and no. It appears to be of no help to people on zero hours contracts, 'gig economy' or the self employed. Which is the majority of the country I suspect. And over a million people in the hospitality sector have already been 'let go'. Thatis just the start as the entire country now depends on 'just in time' philosphies that work well in normal times but collapse like a deck of cards at times like this.
Plus there is no such thing as a free lunch -this will all have to be paid for AND the government will hopefully wake up to the fact that healthcare is important and also has to be paid for. |
Yes, amazing speech from the Chancellor. If you missed it, listen again to the point when he speaks about self employment, I'm fairly certain it went something along the lines of "f@ck you".
Just take a step back and consider how the employed, who are now going to be supported to the level of 80% of their wage, up to a ceiling of £2,500, if they are unable to work, would have felt, if they were told to apply for Universal Credit?
I am self employed, I have a customer base, although, I have followed government guidelines to self isolate as I fall into the category of high risk with an underlying health condition, which means that I am unable to earn any income not being able to work from home. I have sacrificed my business and income following this government guidance, whilst protecting my health and the burden that I may become on the NHS. I know find that I will be approximately 80% worse off financially each month. How exactly have I been supported by the doing the right thing? |  | | |
| Wow on 19:56 - Mar 20 with 2688 views | noggin |
| Wow on 18:11 - Mar 20 by Swansea_Blue |
I'm seriously hoping that this will focus a few minds to stop fixating on economic growth above all else. It's meaningless for the increasingly large number of people on poverty wages who (normally) can't afford to be ill. Wellbeing, happiness, sustainability, corporate & social responsibility, blah, blah, blah, should all be higher up the priorities list. Especially blah.
Haven't looked at the govt announcement yet as I've a rush on a deadline (missed lol). Are they covering self-employed? |
The just getting bys and the pensioners will no doubt foot the bill in years to come. |  |
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| Wow on 20:02 - Mar 20 with 2672 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Wow on 19:18 - Mar 20 by giant_stow |
Starting to feel like a delibrate snub. Hey ho, dry my eyes and all that... |
DON'T TOUCH YOUR EYES!! | |
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| Wow on 20:25 - Mar 20 with 2641 views | giant_stow |
| Wow on 19:34 - Mar 20 by Double_Dutch |
Yes, amazing speech from the Chancellor. If you missed it, listen again to the point when he speaks about self employment, I'm fairly certain it went something along the lines of "f@ck you".
Just take a step back and consider how the employed, who are now going to be supported to the level of 80% of their wage, up to a ceiling of £2,500, if they are unable to work, would have felt, if they were told to apply for Universal Credit?
I am self employed, I have a customer base, although, I have followed government guidelines to self isolate as I fall into the category of high risk with an underlying health condition, which means that I am unable to earn any income not being able to work from home. I have sacrificed my business and income following this government guidance, whilst protecting my health and the burden that I may become on the NHS. I know find that I will be approximately 80% worse off financially each month. How exactly have I been supported by the doing the right thing? |
I'm still reading stuff to digest, but it does seem like Universal Credit is the only thing left for freelancers and that that will come in at £94 per week. While employed others will be on up to £500 per week?
Is this real?
is there more to come or do they really hate us? | |
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| Wow on 20:29 - Mar 20 with 2631 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Wow on 20:25 - Mar 20 by giant_stow |
I'm still reading stuff to digest, but it does seem like Universal Credit is the only thing left for freelancers and that that will come in at £94 per week. While employed others will be on up to £500 per week?
Is this real?
is there more to come or do they really hate us? |
A bit harsh if that's the case. Sorry, understatement - it's disgusting. Surely they must realise the employment landscape they've helped to create, and know there's a lot of people without an employer who will need help through this?
Maybe it'll come out in the wash - hope so. | |
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| Wow on 20:43 - Mar 20 with 2611 views | giant_stow |
| Wow on 20:29 - Mar 20 by Swansea_Blue |
A bit harsh if that's the case. Sorry, understatement - it's disgusting. Surely they must realise the employment landscape they've helped to create, and know there's a lot of people without an employer who will need help through this?
Maybe it'll come out in the wash - hope so. |
I can't believe this is true - must have misunderstoud something
They cant just be ditching 5m odd people - maybe more to come.
Anyway, timebti remember stiff upper lip and all that. | |
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| Wow on 20:46 - Mar 20 with 2607 views | Reuser_is_God |
What is Callis going to cry about now? |  |
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| Wow on 20:59 - Mar 20 with 2574 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| Wow on 19:18 - Mar 20 by monytowbray |
Always something being done but nothing gets done. |
Not true. See also the digital services tax recently introduced despite significant pressure not to. | | | |
| Wow on 21:19 - Mar 20 with 2549 views | BlueByYou |
While I am happy for how a lot of people have been helped by this, self employed people have really been shafted by this.
I'm single, and self employed, earning around £12,000 a year. In the past few days all of my clients have cancelled, because of the necessary self distancing.
If I was employed and earning that amount, today's announcement of the government paying 80% of the amount, would mean I'd be paid £9,600 a year
Instead, because I'm self employed, all I can claim for is universal credit, which is £4,800 per year.
Am I literally half as important as an employed person? | | | |
| Wow on 21:21 - Mar 20 with 2546 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Wow on 19:34 - Mar 20 by Double_Dutch |
Yes, amazing speech from the Chancellor. If you missed it, listen again to the point when he speaks about self employment, I'm fairly certain it went something along the lines of "f@ck you".
Just take a step back and consider how the employed, who are now going to be supported to the level of 80% of their wage, up to a ceiling of £2,500, if they are unable to work, would have felt, if they were told to apply for Universal Credit?
I am self employed, I have a customer base, although, I have followed government guidelines to self isolate as I fall into the category of high risk with an underlying health condition, which means that I am unable to earn any income not being able to work from home. I have sacrificed my business and income following this government guidance, whilst protecting my health and the burden that I may become on the NHS. I know find that I will be approximately 80% worse off financially each month. How exactly have I been supported by the doing the right thing? |
They have to ensure mortgages are paid or else the banks are screwed! |  |
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| Wow on 21:24 - Mar 20 with 2544 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Wow on 20:25 - Mar 20 by giant_stow |
I'm still reading stuff to digest, but it does seem like Universal Credit is the only thing left for freelancers and that that will come in at £94 per week. While employed others will be on up to £500 per week?
Is this real?
is there more to come or do they really hate us? |
Welcome to the underclass Ullaa.....fancy a revolution? | |
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| Wow on 21:27 - Mar 20 with 2535 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Wow on 21:19 - Mar 20 by BlueByYou |
While I am happy for how a lot of people have been helped by this, self employed people have really been shafted by this.
I'm single, and self employed, earning around £12,000 a year. In the past few days all of my clients have cancelled, because of the necessary self distancing.
If I was employed and earning that amount, today's announcement of the government paying 80% of the amount, would mean I'd be paid £9,600 a year
Instead, because I'm self employed, all I can claim for is universal credit, which is £4,800 per year.
Am I literally half as important as an employed person? |
You know that thing about the property owning middle classes being the key holders to the prison for their rich benefactors....well it has been laid bare today. | |
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| Wow on 22:36 - Mar 20 with 2457 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Wow on 19:01 - Mar 20 by ElephantintheRoom |
Yes and no. It appears to be of no help to people on zero hours contracts, 'gig economy' or the self employed. Which is the majority of the country I suspect. And over a million people in the hospitality sector have already been 'let go'. Thatis just the start as the entire country now depends on 'just in time' philosphies that work well in normal times but collapse like a deck of cards at times like this.
Plus there is no such thing as a free lunch -this will all have to be paid for AND the government will hopefully wake up to the fact that healthcare is important and also has to be paid for. |
Must be particularly galling as they've relied on people working even a small number of hours in the gig economy and the significant increase in the self-employed to count towards the 'record' employment figures they've been crowing about for the past few years. |  | | |
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