| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out 11:25 - Mar 23 with 5772 views | Bluefish |
live at the press conference for their determination to find holes to sensationalise rather than have the nation's best interests at heart. [Post edited 23 Mar 2020 11:25]
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| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:34 - Mar 23 with 3882 views | BloomBlue |
I was annoyed with the reporter at yesterday's who kept asking the same question about if someone has already been made redundant will their company contact them or should they contact the company?
If it had been me answering I would have said FFS what is this a nanny state, get off their ar$e pick up the phone and phone the company. Are we really living in a country where we have to give every adult 5 year instructions |  | | |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:38 - Mar 23 with 3848 views | homer_123 |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:34 - Mar 23 by BloomBlue |
I was annoyed with the reporter at yesterday's who kept asking the same question about if someone has already been made redundant will their company contact them or should they contact the company?
If it had been me answering I would have said FFS what is this a nanny state, get off their ar$e pick up the phone and phone the company. Are we really living in a country where we have to give every adult 5 year instructions |
So, if people are not listening to the 'advice' but want to be treated like adults - what to do? |  |
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| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:40 - Mar 23 with 3825 views | Herbivore |
Heaven forbid the PM should actually be scrutinised. |  |
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| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:42 - Mar 23 with 3830 views | itfcjoe |
But when the message is don't visit people and he then says he is still hoping to visit his elderly Mother, or to stay in but it is important to get out and get fresh air and exercise then holes will be picked in it
Communication and leadership needs to be clear and not confusing |  |
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| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:45 - Mar 23 with 3796 views | BloomBlue |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:42 - Mar 23 by itfcjoe |
But when the message is don't visit people and he then says he is still hoping to visit his elderly Mother, or to stay in but it is important to get out and get fresh air and exercise then holes will be picked in it
Communication and leadership needs to be clear and not confusing |
But getting fresh is good for you that's what the health people keep telling us. Boris continues to tell people if you want to go out keep your distance from anyone, it really is simple. | | | |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:48 - Mar 23 with 3773 views | itfcjoe |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:45 - Mar 23 by BloomBlue |
But getting fresh is good for you that's what the health people keep telling us. Boris continues to tell people if you want to go out keep your distance from anyone, it really is simple. |
But he isn't communicating that clearly and concisely | |
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| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:49 - Mar 23 with 3769 views | bluelagos |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:42 - Mar 23 by itfcjoe |
But when the message is don't visit people and he then says he is still hoping to visit his elderly Mother, or to stay in but it is important to get out and get fresh air and exercise then holes will be picked in it
Communication and leadership needs to be clear and not confusing |
Yep, the inconsistencies have been consistent.
Dont go to the pub, but pubs stay open. What exactly did he think was going to happen?
Every day he holds a press conference with a load of journos all in the same room. I doubt they are all 2m apart. He talked about doing it remotely, yet still hasnt.
And the media scrutiny on the numbers of ventilators and availability of appropriate gear for the medical teams is absolutely appropriate atm. |  |
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| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:50 - Mar 23 with 3754 views | Bluefish |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:40 - Mar 23 by Herbivore |
Heaven forbid the PM should actually be scrutinised. |
I know you struggle with the bias of it but do you think their questions are genuinely about finding a better way or scrutinising or do you think they are determined to be difficult and find a story and a panic? If they were there laying down solid research and facts fair enough but it is just looking for a headline | |
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| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:51 - Mar 23 with 3742 views | BloomBlue |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:49 - Mar 23 by bluelagos |
Yep, the inconsistencies have been consistent.
Dont go to the pub, but pubs stay open. What exactly did he think was going to happen?
Every day he holds a press conference with a load of journos all in the same room. I doubt they are all 2m apart. He talked about doing it remotely, yet still hasnt.
And the media scrutiny on the numbers of ventilators and availability of appropriate gear for the medical teams is absolutely appropriate atm. |
It was the media who asked him not to do it remotely as they were concerned it could prevent them asking questions | | | |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:52 - Mar 23 with 3740 views | homer_123 |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:48 - Mar 23 by itfcjoe |
But he isn't communicating that clearly and concisely |
What, exactly, isn't clear about self-distancing or self-isolation?
It is utterly and patently clear to see exactly what Boris and the scientific advisors are saying - if you are 'out' and you can go out, keep your distance.
It does not mean you can congregate in parks and pubs or sit next to others at picnic tables at National Trust sites.
The issue lies not with Boris and the Gov but moreover the public's inability to follow simple instructions without needing to be 'forced' to. [Post edited 23 Mar 2020 11:53]
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| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:54 - Mar 23 with 3723 views | flimflam |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:48 - Mar 23 by itfcjoe |
But he isn't communicating that clearly and concisely |
I understand exactly what he is putting across it just seems a good portion of our grown ups are basically ignoring his advice.
He cannot be held responsible for people being morons. |  |
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| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:55 - Mar 23 with 3696 views | footers |
I can definitely see Johnson criticising Mr Murdoch and his former employers over their sensationalism. |  |
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| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:56 - Mar 23 with 3688 views | BloomBlue |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:48 - Mar 23 by itfcjoe |
But he isn't communicating that clearly and concisely |
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one Joe
At the moment I think we have 4 camps on the go in the UK, and not in any order
Those who totally understand what keep your distance is
Those who have valid concerns about the situation, NHS's ability and want to ask valid questions
Those who want to play party politics and will find a hole in anything
Those who will ignore the advice to stay indoors as they see that against their civil liberties. | | | |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 12:08 - Mar 23 with 3636 views | NthQldITFC |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:45 - Mar 23 by BloomBlue |
But getting fresh is good for you that's what the health people keep telling us. Boris continues to tell people if you want to go out keep your distance from anyone, it really is simple. |
Getting fresh with your mother! That's good for you!? What county are you from? |  |
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| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 12:10 - Mar 23 with 3618 views | itfcjoe |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:52 - Mar 23 by homer_123 |
What, exactly, isn't clear about self-distancing or self-isolation?
It is utterly and patently clear to see exactly what Boris and the scientific advisors are saying - if you are 'out' and you can go out, keep your distance.
It does not mean you can congregate in parks and pubs or sit next to others at picnic tables at National Trust sites.
The issue lies not with Boris and the Gov but moreover the public's inability to follow simple instructions without needing to be 'forced' to. [Post edited 23 Mar 2020 11:53]
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Ok then, what about Mother's Day - he goes out there with a clear message and waffles until you come away thinking it isn't as clear as it should be
This was part of issues I was having with Mother's Day - Mother In Law saying Boris just said the very elderly, that he was going to see his Mum, etc - that isn't right.
Be clear, be concise, don't stray off message. | |
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| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 12:12 - Mar 23 with 3613 views | itfcjoe |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:56 - Mar 23 by BloomBlue |
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one Joe
At the moment I think we have 4 camps on the go in the UK, and not in any order
Those who totally understand what keep your distance is
Those who have valid concerns about the situation, NHS's ability and want to ask valid questions
Those who want to play party politics and will find a hole in anything
Those who will ignore the advice to stay indoors as they see that against their civil liberties. |
It's not about party politics, it's those that listen to the certain part of the message they want to hear rather than the full thing - I listen to them and they generally start fine, and I know what I should be doing and making every effort to do as such - but it's not always clear | |
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| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 12:17 - Mar 23 with 3582 views | homer_123 |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 12:10 - Mar 23 by itfcjoe |
Ok then, what about Mother's Day - he goes out there with a clear message and waffles until you come away thinking it isn't as clear as it should be
This was part of issues I was having with Mother's Day - Mother In Law saying Boris just said the very elderly, that he was going to see his Mum, etc - that isn't right.
Be clear, be concise, don't stray off message. |
The message was/is clear. How much clearer can it be?
He didn't say he was going to see his Mum - he said he was hoping to. Different things - on top of that - he could entirely go and 'see' her but stay a safe distance away.
This is not complicated - it's clear and simple. | |
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| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 12:19 - Mar 23 with 3573 views | homer_123 |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 12:12 - Mar 23 by itfcjoe |
It's not about party politics, it's those that listen to the certain part of the message they want to hear rather than the full thing - I listen to them and they generally start fine, and I know what I should be doing and making every effort to do as such - but it's not always clear |
Sorry Joe - it really is clear - very clear. You are wrong on this.
This information is extremely well communicated, easy to find and digest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51506729
https://www.gov.uk/coronavirus
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/ | |
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| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 12:24 - Mar 23 with 3550 views | LankHenners |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 11:52 - Mar 23 by homer_123 |
What, exactly, isn't clear about self-distancing or self-isolation?
It is utterly and patently clear to see exactly what Boris and the scientific advisors are saying - if you are 'out' and you can go out, keep your distance.
It does not mean you can congregate in parks and pubs or sit next to others at picnic tables at National Trust sites.
The issue lies not with Boris and the Gov but moreover the public's inability to follow simple instructions without needing to be 'forced' to. [Post edited 23 Mar 2020 11:53]
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The messaging from the government has been poor, and you’re a fool if you think otherwise.
They should have drummed the message in with the same vigour and tirelessness that they put into them message they used to win the election. Instead we’ve had a few press conferences where, as already mentioned, the PM himself has appeared to not take his own advice seriously.
Without doubt there is a problem with the selfishness of the public but we had a head start on the whole thing but wasted it by wanging on about herd immunity then flip flopping on it then deciding it was a bad idea after all. The scientists and advisors couldn’t agree on the best course of action which left people confused and led them to be more blasé. Companies and organisations had to take matters into their own hands such was the lack of clarity from government. They had a chance to put a lid on things before they got out of control and blew it. |  |
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| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 12:26 - Mar 23 with 3521 views | GlasgowBlue |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 12:10 - Mar 23 by itfcjoe |
Ok then, what about Mother's Day - he goes out there with a clear message and waffles until you come away thinking it isn't as clear as it should be
This was part of issues I was having with Mother's Day - Mother In Law saying Boris just said the very elderly, that he was going to see his Mum, etc - that isn't right.
Be clear, be concise, don't stray off message. |
Did Johnson really say he was going to see his mum? I only saw his message that people should facetime or skype. |  |
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| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 12:32 - Mar 23 with 3472 views | homer_123 |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 12:24 - Mar 23 by LankHenners |
The messaging from the government has been poor, and you’re a fool if you think otherwise.
They should have drummed the message in with the same vigour and tirelessness that they put into them message they used to win the election. Instead we’ve had a few press conferences where, as already mentioned, the PM himself has appeared to not take his own advice seriously.
Without doubt there is a problem with the selfishness of the public but we had a head start on the whole thing but wasted it by wanging on about herd immunity then flip flopping on it then deciding it was a bad idea after all. The scientists and advisors couldn’t agree on the best course of action which left people confused and led them to be more blasé. Companies and organisations had to take matters into their own hands such was the lack of clarity from government. They had a chance to put a lid on things before they got out of control and blew it. |
This is unprecedented. Yes, there was not an overall consensus among the experts (no surprise, there never is).
However, the Gov has communicated clearly what the process has been, this has improved with the daily briefings and involving the likes of Witty et al.
The tack has changed, yes, but the situation is fluid and is likely to change again - so the messaging needs to flex to allow for that.
Over the last 7 days, the communication has been crystal clear on self-isolation and social-distancing. Patently, obviously and definitively clear.
Communication around business help and support is less so but, again, I have a degree of sympathy here in that trying to put the mechanisms in place to pay 80% of peoples wages is not something you can implement overnight.
Very, very easy to pick apart and criticise but on the whole (and I am no Boris supporter or Tory) - they've done OK given the circumstances.
To sit here now and say I'm not sure what I'd supposed to be doing - is f*ck wittery of the highest order. | |
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| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 12:32 - Mar 23 with 3467 views | Herbivore |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 12:17 - Mar 23 by homer_123 |
The message was/is clear. How much clearer can it be?
He didn't say he was going to see his Mum - he said he was hoping to. Different things - on top of that - he could entirely go and 'see' her but stay a safe distance away.
This is not complicated - it's clear and simple. |
The messaging hasn't been clear. How is him hoping to see his elderly mum not muddying the waters after he has just told people to maintain distance and said those most at risk should self isolate? It's the definition of mixed messages. | |
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| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 12:33 - Mar 23 with 3463 views | itfcjoe |
Compare those messages, which are clear to the press conferences given - this is the issue, there is too much scope for intepretation given
Sit down and watch the 5pm one tonight and come back to me | |
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| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 12:34 - Mar 23 with 3448 views | Herbivore |
He's not wrong, you just disagree. Johnson bumbles his way through contradictory press conference after contradictory press conference. We're not talking about published advice that he's not written. | |
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| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 12:35 - Mar 23 with 3428 views | Herbivore |
| I would love to see Boris actually call the media out on 12:26 - Mar 23 by GlasgowBlue |
Did Johnson really say he was going to see his mum? I only saw his message that people should facetime or skype. |
Yes, in the press conference on Friday. He said he was hoping to see her seconds after giving advice to the contrary for everyone else. | |
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