| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? 09:12 - Mar 24 with 7727 views | BrixtonBlue |
Surely the police aren't going to take note of every time they see you jogging.
And this thing of no more than 2 people... unless you live in the same household. Are police going to be stopping groups and checking? How?
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| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:30 - Mar 24 with 3319 views | NewcyBlue |
| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 09:16 - Mar 24 by BrixtonBlue |
Rather a moot point wouldn't you say homer? We shouldn't need to lock our doors or have speed cameras either... |
That’s daft Dollers.
We lock our doors for our own safety. You should be taking the same attitude towards Covid-19, if you won’t do it for others, at least do it for yourself. |  |
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| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:38 - Mar 24 with 3303 views | BrixtonBlue |
| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 10:13 - Mar 24 by BloomBlue |
What do expect them to do?
How about a fine? that will probably work in some situations but you might have the rich person who will say that's nothing I'll pay it and basically ignore it and keep going out. On the opposite end you might have someone on benefits who will say I don't earn enough and cannot afford it and the fine will be spread over 10 years and basically ignore it and keep going out.
So then you get to second offence - do we do same as France threaten a prison sentence of 6 months? How will that work will they be locked up immediately without any court process or do we follow the court process and where do we put all these people facing 6 months in prison while they wait for the court process?
Personally I would lock them up for 6 months no court process you're automatically guilty no medical help once your in there 2 meals a day and no visitors
As the medical people keep saying this will only work if people buy into it |
This is what I'm asking. I've no idea what they're expected to do. I also don't know how they prove it.
I seem to be getting pelters in this thread for genuinely asking how this stuff is going to be enforced. I wasn't making a point, I was genuinely asking because I don't see how it's possible. | |
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| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:42 - Mar 24 with 3292 views | BrixtonBlue |
| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:17 - Mar 24 by GlasgowBlue |
I think they are hoping that the majority of people will be sensible enough and mature enough to take this epidemic seriously and abide by the advice put in place. |
Again, yes. But again, is that really going to happen from what we've seen already?
Why is everyone posting moot points rather than actually answering how this stuff will be enforced if/when people don't abide? | |
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| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:42 - Mar 24 with 3291 views | NewcyBlue |
| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:38 - Mar 24 by BrixtonBlue |
This is what I'm asking. I've no idea what they're expected to do. I also don't know how they prove it.
I seem to be getting pelters in this thread for genuinely asking how this stuff is going to be enforced. I wasn't making a point, I was genuinely asking because I don't see how it's possible. |
Apologies. It didn’t come over too inquisitive to begin with.
I hope they enforce it thoroughly. How they will, I don’t know.
But people must learn. | |
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| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:43 - Mar 24 with 3288 views | BloomBlue |
| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:38 - Mar 24 by BrixtonBlue |
This is what I'm asking. I've no idea what they're expected to do. I also don't know how they prove it.
I seem to be getting pelters in this thread for genuinely asking how this stuff is going to be enforced. I wasn't making a point, I was genuinely asking because I don't see how it's possible. |
So police 'bod' on the TV this morning said they don't have full legal powers to enforce for example a group of people talking in the park, the police can ask them to disperse but if they all walk away together in the same group nothing they can enforce currently, it would take a change in the law.
However he also made the point even if it was law trying to enforce it across the whole Country given the number of police officers would still be a challenge.
In other words unless the public fully buy into it, it won't work.
PS I guess if we adopt the N Korea approach of shooting people that might work after the first couple have been killed |  | | |
| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:46 - Mar 24 with 3276 views | BrixtonBlue |
| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:30 - Mar 24 by NewcyBlue |
That’s daft Dollers.
We lock our doors for our own safety. You should be taking the same attitude towards Covid-19, if you won’t do it for others, at least do it for yourself. |
What's daft about it? I'm making a point that saying something should be a certain way doesn't mean it definitely will be.
So if/when people don't do it for others'/their own safety, how is this stuff enforced? That's all I'm asking. It's all very well saying it but if people don't do it, how do you a) Prove it and b) Enforce it? | |
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| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:48 - Mar 24 with 3269 views | BrixtonBlue |
| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:42 - Mar 24 by NewcyBlue |
Apologies. It didn’t come over too inquisitive to begin with.
I hope they enforce it thoroughly. How they will, I don’t know.
But people must learn. |
There's a question mark in my subject title and two in the body copy. I'm not sure how much more inquisitive I could be! | |
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| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:50 - Mar 24 with 3258 views | factual_blue |
| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 10:47 - Mar 24 by footers |
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My hero. |  |
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| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:51 - Mar 24 with 3258 views | NotSure |
I think the simple answer to your question is that it can't and won't be enforced. Unless you get on particularly badly with your neighbours. |  | | |
| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:51 - Mar 24 with 3257 views | BrixtonBlue |
| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:43 - Mar 24 by BloomBlue |
So police 'bod' on the TV this morning said they don't have full legal powers to enforce for example a group of people talking in the park, the police can ask them to disperse but if they all walk away together in the same group nothing they can enforce currently, it would take a change in the law.
However he also made the point even if it was law trying to enforce it across the whole Country given the number of police officers would still be a challenge.
In other words unless the public fully buy into it, it won't work.
PS I guess if we adopt the N Korea approach of shooting people that might work after the first couple have been killed |
Right. We're at least getting somewhere now, following 2 pages of people making pointless points. It isn't enforceable. So as I said in the OP, a bit wishy washy.
Let's hope most do abide by it. I can see the army being brought into certain places because I have little faith everyone will abide by these unenforceable rules. | |
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| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:52 - Mar 24 with 3254 views | NewcyBlue |
| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:48 - Mar 24 by BrixtonBlue |
There's a question mark in my subject title and two in the body copy. I'm not sure how much more inquisitive I could be! |
Yeah alright Dollers.
Other people also suggested the same thing. Next time you can just start a thread with “I want people to reply in a certain way or I will cry off”...
You’ve asked questions, that really shouldn’t need answering. It doesn’t matter if and how it will be enforced. People have been told what to do. For not only their own food, but that of their families, and friend, and friends’ families, and people on the front line facing this thing every day.
Don’t you think people should engage their tiny little brains, and rather than questioning this stuff, follow the advice. Stay at home. MrsN and her colleagues are working hard to keep people safe. So perhaps, rather than ask how it can be enforced, ask yourself how you can encourage others to self enforce. | |
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| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:55 - Mar 24 with 3248 views | GeoffSentence |
Informants.
If people start get fed up with people abusing the rules they will probably alert the authorities.
It is how authoritarian regimes have functioned throughout history, and I reckon it will work that way this time round, though for a better reason. |  |
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| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:57 - Mar 24 with 3239 views | factual_blue |
| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 09:24 - Mar 24 by Bugs |
Shouldn't need to be, but there is a sizeable minority in this country that are prime one tw@ts.They think the world is about them and don't give a fu*k the consequences of their actions. Me rather we people. |
52% isn't a minority. | |
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| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:58 - Mar 24 with 3239 views | BrixtonBlue |
| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:52 - Mar 24 by NewcyBlue |
Yeah alright Dollers.
Other people also suggested the same thing. Next time you can just start a thread with “I want people to reply in a certain way or I will cry off”...
You’ve asked questions, that really shouldn’t need answering. It doesn’t matter if and how it will be enforced. People have been told what to do. For not only their own food, but that of their families, and friend, and friends’ families, and people on the front line facing this thing every day.
Don’t you think people should engage their tiny little brains, and rather than questioning this stuff, follow the advice. Stay at home. MrsN and her colleagues are working hard to keep people safe. So perhaps, rather than ask how it can be enforced, ask yourself how you can encourage others to self enforce. |
Of course I think people should be following the advice. Where have I said otherwise?
I give up. | |
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| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 12:02 - Mar 24 with 3227 views | NotSure |
| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:55 - Mar 24 by GeoffSentence |
Informants.
If people start get fed up with people abusing the rules they will probably alert the authorities.
It is how authoritarian regimes have functioned throughout history, and I reckon it will work that way this time round, though for a better reason. |
I hope this is sarcasm.
People grassing others up because they go out for a walk on their own twice in a day? What is happening to us. | | | |
| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 12:05 - Mar 24 with 3219 views | footers |
| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 12:02 - Mar 24 by NotSure |
I hope this is sarcasm.
People grassing others up because they go out for a walk on their own twice in a day? What is happening to us. |
Every man has his price. And mine is shockingly low. |  |
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| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 12:07 - Mar 24 with 3213 views | GluedtoBlue |
These measures are acceptable as a temporary measure but if 12 weeks rolls into 24 and into 48 then what happens?
You can't place a country/the world into any form of lockdown indefinitely. There will come a point where some - if not most - say I'd rather live and chance it than stay at home isolate and diving into depression that ultimately ends in poor health and death anyway.
I'm not trying to talk down how serious coronavirus is but I feel a line will need to be drawn at some point. |  |
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| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 12:11 - Mar 24 with 3208 views | WeWereZombies |
| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:46 - Mar 24 by BrixtonBlue |
What's daft about it? I'm making a point that saying something should be a certain way doesn't mean it definitely will be.
So if/when people don't do it for others'/their own safety, how is this stuff enforced? That's all I'm asking. It's all very well saying it but if people don't do it, how do you a) Prove it and b) Enforce it? |
One of the things I am doing as we move further into lockdown, and as the weather in the Western Isles remains atrocious, is catching up on the iPlayer stuff that is about to disappear. And to that end I watched an edition of 'Storyville' called 'Pervert Park' about a ramshackle settlement of convicted and now released paedophiles in Florida. I had not watched it until a couple of days ago because I worried that the subject matter would be too distasteful but in the event it was, just about, not too disturbing.
What was revealing was that every resident of the park wore an ankle bracelet or was required by law to carry a monitor. These were all linked by satellite so that an actively watching Police Department knew where each 'felon' was, with three metres, at all times. One of the interviewees complained that as well as carrying his monitor he had to fill out a time sheet for all his movements outside the park. I can see the sense in having a 'fallback' method though. And there were penalties for not filling in the time sheet, not carrying the monitor, trying to remove the ankle tag etc.
Re-offending rates in the USA are 43%, for sex offenders only 4%, for the residents of 'Pervert Park' only 1% according to the film.
So maybe repeat offenders in the lockdown could be given the 'Gary Croft' treatment? [Post edited 24 Mar 2020 12:16]
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| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 12:16 - Mar 24 with 3194 views | GeoffSentence |
| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 12:02 - Mar 24 by NotSure |
I hope this is sarcasm.
People grassing others up because they go out for a walk on their own twice in a day? What is happening to us. |
I'm keeping a close eye on my neighbours. But only the ones I dont like. | |
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| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 12:20 - Mar 24 with 3182 views | Superblue95 |
| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 11:48 - Mar 24 by BrixtonBlue |
There's a question mark in my subject title and two in the body copy. I'm not sure how much more inquisitive I could be! |
I’ve been wondering the same things, not quite sure why you’re being downvoted or why people are making out like you’re trying to ignore the advice.
People have been told for weeks to keep their distance from others, wash hands regularly etc and this has been largely ignored by a lot of people. I don’t see any reason why everybody will now follow this latest instruction.
I doubt it will be enforced particularly well either |  |
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| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 12:36 - Mar 24 with 3166 views | NotSure |
| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 12:16 - Mar 24 by GeoffSentence |
I'm keeping a close eye on my neighbours. But only the ones I dont like. |
I get up when I want except on Wednesdays when I get rudely awakened by the dustmen
Parklife
I put my trousers on, have a cup of tea and I think about leaving the house
Parklife
And then I remember about GeoffSentence at number 58 and have a w&nk instead
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| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 12:44 - Mar 24 with 3147 views | Bluefish |
There are lots of laws and offences in this country that we are told to stick to, the majority of people do this everyday so we don't need enough police to check them all. The police we have are there to police the rest where possible. This will be the same. No one is going to be monitoring they will just hope people don't act like tw*ts, if people are seen acting like tw*ts or reported they will be spoken to and if need be dealt with through fines.
It doesn't need to be overcomplicated and only some wipl need help with it |  |
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| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 12:48 - Mar 24 with 3136 views | SomethingBlue |
They won't do that re jogging but if everyone disciplines themselves and sticks to it then the desired effect will be had.
Pretty easy to stop and check some of the groups I saw hanging around over the weekend tbf. It won't be perfect but a lot of the point is to make people actively consider how they are behaving. | |
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| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 12:57 - Mar 24 with 3115 views | lazyblue |
Common sense by general public would be nice which so many people seem to lack | | | |
| How are they supposed to enforce this one exercise thing a day? on 13:32 - Mar 24 with 3091 views | ghostofescobar |
i went for a bike ride first thing, came home, put on a mac, trilby and false mustache, then went for a jog. No issues. |  |
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