| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... 17:23 - Mar 25 with 2135 views | homer_123 |
that these anti-body tests have yet to be fully evaluated.
So, they are not fully tested and signed off in terms of accuracy.
Also stating - this is not something we'll be buying over the Internet next week. These tests will only go to critical groups, such as NHS workers. [Post edited 25 Mar 2020 17:25]
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| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 17:24 - Mar 25 with 2099 views | Herbivore |
Hopefully they will delay until they've been tested. An unreliable test isn't any better than no test at all. |  |
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| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 17:25 - Mar 25 with 2100 views | homer_123 |
| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 17:24 - Mar 25 by Herbivore |
Hopefully they will delay until they've been tested. An unreliable test isn't any better than no test at all. |
Indeed. | |
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| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 17:37 - Mar 25 with 2051 views | factual_blue |
Whitty and Vallance are so articulate and succinct they just embarrass boris every time they speak.
boris just sounds like a six-former trying to bluff his way through the seminar paper he hasn't prepared. |  |
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| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 17:41 - Mar 25 with 2023 views | Trequartista |
| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 17:37 - Mar 25 by factual_blue |
Whitty and Vallance are so articulate and succinct they just embarrass boris every time they speak.
boris just sounds like a six-former trying to bluff his way through the seminar paper he hasn't prepared. |
They were also articulate and succinct when they were persuing the wrong policy 2 weeks ago. |  |
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| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 17:43 - Mar 25 with 2016 views | factual_blue |
| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 17:41 - Mar 25 by Trequartista |
They were also articulate and succinct when they were persuing the wrong policy 2 weeks ago. |
Sorry didn't realise you were an epidemiologist. | |
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| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 17:45 - Mar 25 with 2002 views | Trequartista |
| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 17:43 - Mar 25 by factual_blue |
Sorry didn't realise you were an epidemiologist. |
If experts disagree, one set must be wrong, and having changed their minds, you don't need to be an epidemiologist to work out which set.
It's as though herd immunity has been airbrushed from history. | |
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| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 17:48 - Mar 25 with 1987 views | factual_blue |
| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 17:45 - Mar 25 by Trequartista |
If experts disagree, one set must be wrong, and having changed their minds, you don't need to be an epidemiologist to work out which set.
It's as though herd immunity has been airbrushed from history. |
On a point of precision, if experts disagree they can both be wrong.
Beyond that, I wasn't in the country a couple of weeks ago so I'm not in a position to say what was being discussed then.
The general point, that they say everything better than boris, holds good. | |
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| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 17:55 - Mar 25 with 1948 views | Trequartista |
| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 17:48 - Mar 25 by factual_blue |
On a point of precision, if experts disagree they can both be wrong.
Beyond that, I wasn't in the country a couple of weeks ago so I'm not in a position to say what was being discussed then.
The general point, that they say everything better than boris, holds good. |
Agreed, but my point that a well-articulated argument doesn't automatically mean it is the best argument holds good too. [Post edited 25 Mar 2020 17:56]
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| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 17:55 - Mar 25 with 1941 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Hope he doesn't get shot.... Chrissy Witty bang bang....sorry but I did misread the OP! |  |
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| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 18:02 - Mar 25 with 1922 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 17:55 - Mar 25 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Hope he doesn't get shot.... Chrissy Witty bang bang....sorry but I did misread the OP! |
That post is in poor taste Banksy. Chris Whitty's father was shot in the head three times by Palestinian terrorists. |  |
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| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 18:04 - Mar 25 with 1904 views | sparks |
| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 17:45 - Mar 25 by Trequartista |
If experts disagree, one set must be wrong, and having changed their minds, you don't need to be an epidemiologist to work out which set.
It's as though herd immunity has been airbrushed from history. |
Not how it works.
Evidence changes, and scientists shift position.
Unlike Boris who tends to simply double down when wrong... |  |
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| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 19:08 - Mar 25 with 1825 views | Trequartista |
| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 18:04 - Mar 25 by sparks |
Not how it works.
Evidence changes, and scientists shift position.
Unlike Boris who tends to simply double down when wrong... |
Did the evidence dramatically change, or did the Imperial College report make them smell the coffee? I have my suspicions. | |
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| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 19:13 - Mar 25 with 1807 views | BloomBlue |
| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 19:08 - Mar 25 by Trequartista |
Did the evidence dramatically change, or did the Imperial College report make them smell the coffee? I have my suspicions. |
Imperial college have been part of the team advising Witty from the start, they perform all the data modeling. [Post edited 25 Mar 2020 19:16]
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| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 19:13 - Mar 25 with 1796 views | sparks |
| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 19:08 - Mar 25 by Trequartista |
Did the evidence dramatically change, or did the Imperial College report make them smell the coffee? I have my suspicions. |
The evidence was the report. | |
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| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 19:20 - Mar 25 with 1756 views | Trequartista |
| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 19:13 - Mar 25 by sparks |
The evidence was the report. |
But the figures hadn't changed only the strategy, we were going to get herd immunity so that when the mathematically modelled second wave came along we would all be ok when other countries would suffer. They then realised that the amount of people who would die in the first wave would not be acceptable they changed tack. | |
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| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 19:21 - Mar 25 with 1750 views | sparks |
| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 19:20 - Mar 25 by Trequartista |
But the figures hadn't changed only the strategy, we were going to get herd immunity so that when the mathematically modelled second wave came along we would all be ok when other countries would suffer. They then realised that the amount of people who would die in the first wave would not be acceptable they changed tack. |
Thats not right though is it?
The modelling was the evidence which changed and they reacetd to it. | |
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| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 19:22 - Mar 25 with 1738 views | Trequartista |
| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 19:13 - Mar 25 by BloomBlue |
Imperial college have been part of the team advising Witty from the start, they perform all the data modeling. [Post edited 25 Mar 2020 19:16]
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Think it was Vallance rather than Witty who advocated the herd immunity theory? | |
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| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 19:30 - Mar 25 with 1696 views | Trequartista |
| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 19:21 - Mar 25 by sparks |
Thats not right though is it?
The modelling was the evidence which changed and they reacetd to it. |
Yes that's the official line, as i said i'm suspicious of that, I think if a mistake was made I don't think it would have been admitted as it would kill public confidence, when it can easily be covered with a vague 'the evidence has changed' - in which countries were the rates of increase suddenly changing? [Post edited 25 Mar 2020 19:30]
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| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 20:10 - Mar 25 with 1611 views | davblue |
| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 19:30 - Mar 25 by Trequartista |
Yes that's the official line, as i said i'm suspicious of that, I think if a mistake was made I don't think it would have been admitted as it would kill public confidence, when it can easily be covered with a vague 'the evidence has changed' - in which countries were the rates of increase suddenly changing? [Post edited 25 Mar 2020 19:30]
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Whether it was a cover up or not if it was wrong then the right decision has been made to alter the plan rather than going with the wrong one! |  | | |
| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 20:15 - Mar 25 with 1601 views | Trequartista |
| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 20:10 - Mar 25 by davblue |
Whether it was a cover up or not if it was wrong then the right decision has been made to alter the plan rather than going with the wrong one! |
Well we won't know that for many weeks, but i think it is the right decision.
I think the only comparisons we will be able to make is if Trump and maybe Bolsonara go down the route of keeping things open in their respective countries. | |
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| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 20:46 - Mar 25 with 1560 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Chris Witty stating at the briefing... on 18:02 - Mar 25 by GlasgowBlue |
That post is in poor taste Banksy. Chris Whitty's father was shot in the head three times by Palestinian terrorists. |
Fancy not knowing....but a good angle for the stalky down vote! | |
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