| Trapped at sea 07:18 - Mar 27 with 1246 views | NewcyBlue |
I was very fortunate to have gotten off just before Singapore shut to seafarers. When I say very fortunate, I mean it. It was hours. Our ports are still accepting ships. Ships with anything up to 12 different nationalities on board.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/25/world/europe/coronavirus-ship-crews-trapped.h
“ When Capt. Nilesh Gandhi’s oil tanker docked in coronavirus-ravaged China early last month, he understood that he would not be able to disembark and fly home as planned. He would have to keep working, at least until Singapore.
But when he arrived there, Singapore had prohibited all crew changes. And when he docks in Sri Lanka next week, the government there will ban him from getting off the ship. Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, his next two stops, forbid crew members from leaving, as well.
He is not alone. An estimated 150,000 crew members with expired work contracts have been forced into continued labor aboard commercial ships worldwide to meet the demands of governments that have closed their borders and yet still want fuel, food and supplies.” |  |
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| Trapped at sea on 07:26 - Mar 27 with 1203 views | bluelagos |
Guy was telling me yesterday about staffing issues causing delays at a UK port. You heard anything? |  |
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| Trapped at sea on 07:26 - Mar 27 with 1201 views | Steve_M |
Yes, in the short term crew changes look difficult. It's bad enough for you and your colleagues spend so long on a ship in normal circumstances. |  |
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| Trapped at sea on 07:34 - Mar 27 with 1164 views | NewcyBlue |
| Trapped at sea on 07:26 - Mar 27 by bluelagos |
Guy was telling me yesterday about staffing issues causing delays at a UK port. You heard anything? |
It wouldn’t surprise me. The ports run 24/7. Thousands of people to do many different jobs.
I know of delays to ships due to not enough gangs working shifts. | |
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| Trapped at sea on 07:34 - Mar 27 with 1159 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Bloody hell Newcy that is quite an eye opener....150,000!! |  |
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| Trapped at sea on 07:34 - Mar 27 with 1162 views | NewcyBlue |
| Trapped at sea on 07:26 - Mar 27 by Steve_M |
Yes, in the short term crew changes look difficult. It's bad enough for you and your colleagues spend so long on a ship in normal circumstances. |
Also a majority of seafarers who are home on leave don’t get paid. They get paid when they are away only. | |
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| Trapped at sea on 07:49 - Mar 27 with 1125 views | factual_blue |
#prayforfergalsharkeyandhispedalo |  |
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| Trapped at sea on 07:51 - Mar 27 with 1122 views | hampstead_blue |
Question Newcy.
The crew which are still working out of contract, will they get paid?
After all the ship is still earning money.
Is that correct?
Stay well. |  |
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| Trapped at sea on 09:28 - Mar 27 with 1024 views | NewcyBlue |
| Trapped at sea on 07:51 - Mar 27 by hampstead_blue |
Question Newcy.
The crew which are still working out of contract, will they get paid?
After all the ship is still earning money.
Is that correct?
Stay well. |
Yeah they will still be paid. Some of them have been on board in excess of 10 months already though. | |
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| Trapped at sea on 09:39 - Mar 27 with 1005 views | hampstead_blue |
| Trapped at sea on 09:28 - Mar 27 by NewcyBlue |
Yeah they will still be paid. Some of them have been on board in excess of 10 months already though. |
That's a long time.
Edit; without a room full of women to enjoy [Post edited 27 Mar 2020 9:40]
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Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| Trapped at sea on 09:42 - Mar 27 with 997 views | NewcyBlue |
| Trapped at sea on 09:39 - Mar 27 by hampstead_blue |
That's a long time.
Edit; without a room full of women to enjoy [Post edited 27 Mar 2020 9:40]
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Some companies don’t have internet on board. Even when they do it’s satellite internet, with data from on board computers going back to the company, and data from the containers being sent back that need monitoring. You’re lucky if you can make a phone call.
Global ban on shore leave too. So you’re not even able to get off when you do get into port.
We’re not seafarers anymore, we are working prisoners. | |
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| Trapped at sea on 10:08 - Mar 27 with 972 views | WeWereZombies |
| Trapped at sea on 09:42 - Mar 27 by NewcyBlue |
Some companies don’t have internet on board. Even when they do it’s satellite internet, with data from on board computers going back to the company, and data from the containers being sent back that need monitoring. You’re lucky if you can make a phone call.
Global ban on shore leave too. So you’re not even able to get off when you do get into port.
We’re not seafarers anymore, we are working prisoners. |
An informative and, in many ways, troubling thread here. Must be tough enough stuck on board before we even consider situations like yours with young kids who will not get to see their Dads for even more months than they are used to.
Are there any discussions on what type of shipping industry will emerge after the pandemic? One that may have to adjust to reduced global trading, for example. Or one that cannot rely on an automatic free market in labour due to greater control on the movement of people perhaps. |  |
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| Trapped at sea on 10:11 - Mar 27 with 963 views | NewcyBlue |
| Trapped at sea on 10:08 - Mar 27 by WeWereZombies |
An informative and, in many ways, troubling thread here. Must be tough enough stuck on board before we even consider situations like yours with young kids who will not get to see their Dads for even more months than they are used to.
Are there any discussions on what type of shipping industry will emerge after the pandemic? One that may have to adjust to reduced global trading, for example. Or one that cannot rely on an automatic free market in labour due to greater control on the movement of people perhaps. |
To be honest it seems the main priority right now is keep the movement of goods flowing.
Without widespread industrial action of stopping ships, seafarers will be taken for granted. | |
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| Trapped at sea on 10:25 - Mar 27 with 941 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Trapped at sea on 09:42 - Mar 27 by NewcyBlue |
Some companies don’t have internet on board. Even when they do it’s satellite internet, with data from on board computers going back to the company, and data from the containers being sent back that need monitoring. You’re lucky if you can make a phone call.
Global ban on shore leave too. So you’re not even able to get off when you do get into port.
We’re not seafarers anymore, we are working prisoners. |
Hasn't that always been the way (working prisoners)? It took Magellan's voyage about 3 years to circumnavigate! Granted, things may have changed a little bit since then :) |  |
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| Trapped at sea on 10:53 - Mar 27 with 893 views | WeWereZombies |
| Trapped at sea on 10:25 - Mar 27 by Swansea_Blue |
Hasn't that always been the way (working prisoners)? It took Magellan's voyage about 3 years to circumnavigate! Granted, things may have changed a little bit since then :) |
And, so far, Newcy hasn't been killed by angry Filipinos before he has even completed the voyage... | |
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| Trapped at sea on 10:57 - Mar 27 with 886 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Trapped at sea on 10:53 - Mar 27 by WeWereZombies |
And, so far, Newcy hasn't been killed by angry Filipinos before he has even completed the voyage... |
Quite. I don't know what he's complaining about  . I bet they let him of the oars every few hours or so for a cup of water too. | |
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| Trapped at sea on 11:02 - Mar 27 with 873 views | NewcyBlue |
| Trapped at sea on 10:57 - Mar 27 by Swansea_Blue |
Quite. I don't know what he's complaining about . I bet they let him of the oars every few hours or so for a cup of water too. |
If we ever meet, I will teabag you. | |
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