| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 09:42 - Apr 7 with 1144 views | StokieBlue |
But how can that be?
We were told by some posters that this was all very obvious stuff and that experts mostly agree and we should do it because other countries did it and the government were useless and negligent.
Maybe things aren't quite as simplistic as some would want to believe and it's a fluid and constantly moving situation as more and more information becomes available and constantly criticising every microscopic element of the response isn't actually that helpful.....
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| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 09:47 - Apr 7 with 1129 views | giant_stow |
| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 09:42 - Apr 7 by StokieBlue |
But how can that be?
We were told by some posters that this was all very obvious stuff and that experts mostly agree and we should do it because other countries did it and the government were useless and negligent.
Maybe things aren't quite as simplistic as some would want to believe and it's a fluid and constantly moving situation as more and more information becomes available and constantly criticising every microscopic element of the response isn't actually that helpful.....
SB [Post edited 7 Apr 2020 9:51]
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Personally, id send my boy back if they reopened tomorrow. Being a single child, the lack of school is doing damage to his mental health i think. |  |
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| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 09:58 - Apr 7 with 1105 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
It also says that if schools were to re-open, social distancing would have to continue and children observe the 2m away rule...
I have 31 children in my class in a room that can fit possibly 8 people at the correct safe distance at a push. Think we're a while away from schools reopening, as much as I can't wait for us to be back.
Return after May half term is my prediction (based on nothing more than optimistic hope). |  | | |
| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 10:03 - Apr 7 with 1079 views | sparks |
| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 09:58 - Apr 7 by DropCliffsNotBombs |
It also says that if schools were to re-open, social distancing would have to continue and children observe the 2m away rule...
I have 31 children in my class in a room that can fit possibly 8 people at the correct safe distance at a push. Think we're a while away from schools reopening, as much as I can't wait for us to be back.
Return after May half term is my prediction (based on nothing more than optimistic hope). |
vast majority of schools have no prosepct at all of social distancing. Pie in the sky. |  |
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| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 10:17 - Apr 7 with 1044 views | WeWereZombies |
| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 09:58 - Apr 7 by DropCliffsNotBombs |
It also says that if schools were to re-open, social distancing would have to continue and children observe the 2m away rule...
I have 31 children in my class in a room that can fit possibly 8 people at the correct safe distance at a push. Think we're a while away from schools reopening, as much as I can't wait for us to be back.
Return after May half term is my prediction (based on nothing more than optimistic hope). |
That's a very useful post. Are you aware of how schools are coping in Sweden and the Netherlands where a less exhaustive set of measures have been applied?
[edit] a couple of links for that:
https://www.government.nl/topics/coronavirus-covid-19/childcare-for-children-of-
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/04/sweden-liberal-virus-strategy-questioned- [Post edited 7 Apr 2020 10:21]
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| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 10:25 - Apr 7 with 1025 views | StokieBlue |
| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 09:58 - Apr 7 by DropCliffsNotBombs |
It also says that if schools were to re-open, social distancing would have to continue and children observe the 2m away rule...
I have 31 children in my class in a room that can fit possibly 8 people at the correct safe distance at a push. Think we're a while away from schools reopening, as much as I can't wait for us to be back.
Return after May half term is my prediction (based on nothing more than optimistic hope). |
The BBC say that, the experts don't mention it in the article, they say:
"There's a whole range of things that schools could do to reopen in a way that involves social distancing at schools but keeps schools open."
It would seem likely that social distancing would need to be applied though so you are right in that.
It would be useful if they expanded on this. Sparks is however right that children are highly unlikely to adhere regardless.
Once again though, it highlights there is no consensus opinion and things aren't a clear-cut as is often being made out.
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| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 10:36 - Apr 7 with 1004 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
You're completely right, SB, in that it's incredibly complex and we're almost changing daily.
I've ended up setting up a youtube channel for my class and filming inputs for lessons and then kids/parents emailing questions, work etc and then can help them individually as required. It's crap, but the best we can do (small primary school so very limited technology).
I hope we get clarity soon as we, and I hope the vast majority of teachers, are desperate to get back teaching properly as soon as possible.
On that note, if any of you have Primary aged kids (esp year 5/6) and want any pointers, feel free to message. | | | |
| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 10:46 - Apr 7 with 993 views | sparks |
| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 10:36 - Apr 7 by DropCliffsNotBombs |
You're completely right, SB, in that it's incredibly complex and we're almost changing daily.
I've ended up setting up a youtube channel for my class and filming inputs for lessons and then kids/parents emailing questions, work etc and then can help them individually as required. It's crap, but the best we can do (small primary school so very limited technology).
I hope we get clarity soon as we, and I hope the vast majority of teachers, are desperate to get back teaching properly as soon as possible.
On that note, if any of you have Primary aged kids (esp year 5/6) and want any pointers, feel free to message. |
I have to say that my daughter's teachers are seemingly having a pretty relaxed time. She is at primary school and I am not really concerned for any lasting impact on her development. However, she seems to get about 45 minutes work 3 times a week. No marking or feedback- just a task to do.
My son has more- mainly written instructions on a portal. | |
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| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 10:46 - Apr 7 with 992 views | StokieBlue |
| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 10:36 - Apr 7 by DropCliffsNotBombs |
You're completely right, SB, in that it's incredibly complex and we're almost changing daily.
I've ended up setting up a youtube channel for my class and filming inputs for lessons and then kids/parents emailing questions, work etc and then can help them individually as required. It's crap, but the best we can do (small primary school so very limited technology).
I hope we get clarity soon as we, and I hope the vast majority of teachers, are desperate to get back teaching properly as soon as possible.
On that note, if any of you have Primary aged kids (esp year 5/6) and want any pointers, feel free to message. |
That sounds excellent and is more than a lot of schools are doing in that age group.
Google Classroom is being used quite a lot as well.
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| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 11:23 - Apr 7 with 928 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 10:46 - Apr 7 by StokieBlue |
That sounds excellent and is more than a lot of schools are doing in that age group.
Google Classroom is being used quite a lot as well.
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Thanks - feedback from parents has been that the kids have liked it as has been more personal and made them feel more part of a group rather than a random worksheet sent out.
Setting 'taskmaster' challenges and getting them to email in their results which I then shared has been great. Need to think of a few more to send out over the next couple of weeks. | | | |
| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 11:23 - Apr 7 with 926 views | hampstead_blue |
Not helpful for nookie!
Can't wait for him to go back..... |  |
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| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 11:24 - Apr 7 with 924 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 10:46 - Apr 7 by sparks |
I have to say that my daughter's teachers are seemingly having a pretty relaxed time. She is at primary school and I am not really concerned for any lasting impact on her development. However, she seems to get about 45 minutes work 3 times a week. No marking or feedback- just a task to do.
My son has more- mainly written instructions on a portal. |
Doesn't sound particularly great.
Won't lie - I've got my laptop out in the garden enjoying the sun so there's been more taxing days at work... | | | |
| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 14:48 - Apr 7 with 837 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 09:42 - Apr 7 by StokieBlue |
But how can that be?
We were told by some posters that this was all very obvious stuff and that experts mostly agree and we should do it because other countries did it and the government were useless and negligent.
Maybe things aren't quite as simplistic as some would want to believe and it's a fluid and constantly moving situation as more and more information becomes available and constantly criticising every microscopic element of the response isn't actually that helpful.....
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You are quite correct regarding the complexity of the problem and the different interpretation of data by experts. This article shows that the experts are not sure of the right course of action.
https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2020/04/04/1586015208000/Imperial-s-Neil-Ferguson---
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| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 17:57 - Apr 7 with 799 views | Mullet |
| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 10:36 - Apr 7 by DropCliffsNotBombs |
You're completely right, SB, in that it's incredibly complex and we're almost changing daily.
I've ended up setting up a youtube channel for my class and filming inputs for lessons and then kids/parents emailing questions, work etc and then can help them individually as required. It's crap, but the best we can do (small primary school so very limited technology).
I hope we get clarity soon as we, and I hope the vast majority of teachers, are desperate to get back teaching properly as soon as possible.
On that note, if any of you have Primary aged kids (esp year 5/6) and want any pointers, feel free to message. |
I do think the media is being a bit reckless/misleading in some respects. Maybe not intentionally, maybe they are scrabbling for content but the lancet here is seemingly a more thorough and better rounded appraisal.
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2352-4642%2820%2930095-X
All the things we know/feared seem true, from the suffering of the most vulnerable, loss of free school meals and other such provision. Likewise the selfishness/ignorance of people gets some treatment. However, it seems to be the economic slowdown and impact that drives the calls to going back.
Like you I'm doing everything I can and am itching to get back, but the practicalities are just ludicrous to consider. Once again schools are being seen as both essential and a place to take out frustrations for too many it seems.
There was always going to be a dripfeed of "it'll be over soon" countered with the calls to get kids back in, so parents can follow but likewise there needs to be some sort of decisiveness and clarity from the government as to how we manage, not just for some but all kids and all institutions first.
The day after Johnson goes into intensive care days after admitting to flouting his own guidance isn't the best time in my opinion . |  |
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| article discussing whether school closures are helpful on 18:43 - Apr 7 with 788 views | eireblue |
And that leads to politicians making decisions.
I think that article illustrates this.
Scientists are giving ranges, politicians need to be clear about what they are deciding to do, and based on what criteria.
The line that some politicians are using, “we are following scientific advice”, is not really the case.
Scientific data, plus other considerations are informing decisions.
A bugbear I have at the moment is the 100,000 test target.
Well targets are nice, but what can you actually produce given the level of knowledge you have today, and what does that mean for planning.
ITFC had a target to get automatically promoted.....
Okay, got that one out of the system now. |  | | |
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