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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... 09:35 - Apr 8 with 3185 viewsitfcjoe

....and if Johnson is to recover they would expect him to be coming out of hospital next weekend (18th/19th), those who don't recover leave the hospital 4 days later.

That's a long time in this crisis, and a real power vacuum at the top of the country. I'm no fan of Raab, but someone needs to be given the power to make decisions.

Apparently the next in line list is as follows:

Raab
Sunak
Patel*
Gove

*This is Priti Patel, you may have forgotten she exists as even though she is the home secretary, one of the great offices of state, she hasn't been put forward for a media round or press conference whilst other junior ministers have.

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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 10:57 - Apr 8 with 688 viewssoupytwist

The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 10:00 - Apr 8 by BloomBlue

Nicola is the only creditable alternative of the available leaders, she proved during the GE she has the ability, made most of the other party leaders look like amateurish


While I wouldn't necessarily be against the suggestion, as this is largely a public health crisis and the NHS is devolved to the governments of Scotland and Wales I would think that she would be inclined to stay where she is.
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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 11:02 - Apr 8 with 677 viewsitfcjoe

The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 10:52 - Apr 8 by Bluefish

The decisions are made by advisors and signed off by cabinet, the thought that Boris makes all of these decisions on his own is miles off


What do you think a chief exec does?

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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 11:03 - Apr 8 with 673 viewssparks

The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 10:57 - Apr 8 by soupytwist

While I wouldn't necessarily be against the suggestion, as this is largely a public health crisis and the NHS is devolved to the governments of Scotland and Wales I would think that she would be inclined to stay where she is.


Well quite. Add in her defence of her CMO...

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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 11:07 - Apr 8 with 659 viewsBluefish

The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 11:02 - Apr 8 by itfcjoe

What do you think a chief exec does?


The UK hasn't got one. Not sure how many multi national corporates you have worked in but the chief exec certainly ly doesn't work in the way you think Boris is. They head of the table but they don't solely make or approve decisions. They certainly don't if they are any good

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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 11:08 - Apr 8 with 655 viewsBluefish

The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 10:54 - Apr 8 by Keno

Boris is nothing like Lambert is he?

Now there is a guy makes decisions, leads from the front and is inspirational. We are lucky to have him


boris knows more about football management

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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 11:08 - Apr 8 with 667 viewsGuthrum

The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 10:45 - Apr 8 by itfcjoe

Cummings is still isolating as it is, but with anything there has to be an overall decision maker - because collective decisions will hit barriers - someone has to have the responsibility, like Boris did
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Yes. If there is a Cabinet deadlock, it's now Raab's job to break it, same as it was Johnson's. He is the decisionmaker. For now, he is effectively the Prime Minister.

If, however, he trumpets too much about it at press conferences, it will just come across as arrogant, open him up to extra pressure and perhaps charges of making a power grab wile Johnson is ill. Doesn't serve any purpose.

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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 11:10 - Apr 8 with 661 viewsitfcjoe

The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 11:07 - Apr 8 by Bluefish

The UK hasn't got one. Not sure how many multi national corporates you have worked in but the chief exec certainly ly doesn't work in the way you think Boris is. They head of the table but they don't solely make or approve decisions. They certainly don't if they are any good


Who wins then if there are 2 senior members of the cabinet unable to decide? Who breaks the deadlock?

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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 11:11 - Apr 8 with 648 viewsBluefish

The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 11:10 - Apr 8 by itfcjoe

Who wins then if there are 2 senior members of the cabinet unable to decide? Who breaks the deadlock?


arm wrestle


Or it is decided by majority of the whole cabinet or they ring boris

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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 11:13 - Apr 8 with 642 viewsWeWereZombies

The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 11:03 - Apr 8 by sparks

Well quite. Add in her defence of her CMO...


By persuading her to resign?

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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 11:14 - Apr 8 with 641 viewsKeno

The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 11:10 - Apr 8 by itfcjoe

Who wins then if there are 2 senior members of the cabinet unable to decide? Who breaks the deadlock?



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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 11:16 - Apr 8 with 633 viewsDarth_Koont

It's all a bit pointless though. A politician isn't available to not answer questions journalists are not asking.

How will we cope when it's left to people who do things rather than talk about them?

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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 11:19 - Apr 8 with 628 viewssparks

The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 11:13 - Apr 8 by WeWereZombies

By persuading her to resign?


By initially failing to sack her, and by then describing her actions as a "mistake" whilst praising her generally.

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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 11:36 - Apr 8 with 604 viewsWeWereZombies

The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 11:19 - Apr 8 by sparks

By initially failing to sack her, and by then describing her actions as a "mistake" whilst praising her generally.


Well, under the circumstances, going to check up on the holiday home in Fife was a mistake. The First Minister did explain the need for continuity balanced against the regret that the behaviour required of Scots was not being followed by the person giving that advice. I appreciated the transparency around the decision, being a resident affected by it.

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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 12:10 - Apr 8 with 572 viewsPinewoodblue

The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 11:10 - Apr 8 by itfcjoe

Who wins then if there are 2 senior members of the cabinet unable to decide? Who breaks the deadlock?


Surely if the cabinet reach a decision all cabinet members are equal if a vote is held.

Not convinced if push came to shove that Raab would have the courage to make a decision and then announce it with the degree of conviction required. He doesn’t exactly inspire confidence.

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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 12:54 - Apr 8 with 533 viewssparks

The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 11:36 - Apr 8 by WeWereZombies

Well, under the circumstances, going to check up on the holiday home in Fife was a mistake. The First Minister did explain the need for continuity balanced against the regret that the behaviour required of Scots was not being followed by the person giving that advice. I appreciated the transparency around the decision, being a resident affected by it.


It wasnt a mistake.

A mistake is when you get something wrong unintentionally.

It was a choice she made, in full possession of all facts.

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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 12:58 - Apr 8 with 519 viewsmonytowbray

The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 09:57 - Apr 8 by r2d2

Get your facts right. She was born in London. I really do wonder about you.


If her views to immigration were applied, as a daughter of immigrants, she’d be sent packing and her parents certainly wouldn’t have been welcome here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windrush_scandal

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51456387

Connect the dots.
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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 13:00 - Apr 8 with 521 viewsbluelagos

The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 09:52 - Apr 8 by Guthrum

It's not a power vacuum.

The PM's stand-in chairs the Cabinet same as he would. Decisions are taken if necessary.

If Johnson is permanently incapacitated, then the stand-in becomes PM until (or if) there's a leadership election.


Yep, there was a load on Newsnight last night on this.

Raab will simply chair the cabinet who make collective decisions. THe only real decision that have to make is to review the lockdown (on Monday?) which is a bit of no brainer.

Couple of weeks BJ should be back assuming he recovers / recuperates.

If he does end up incapacitated or worse, the Tories would need to sort out a new leader but that is some way away.

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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 13:02 - Apr 8 with 515 viewsmonytowbray

The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 10:27 - Apr 8 by MattinLondon

Callis does regularly act like a prick on here - especially during the last two or three weeks.

But on this occasion he was joking and didn’t mean his comments to be taken seriously.


I wasn’t joking.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/priti-patel-immigration-laws-pare

She’s scum.

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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 13:10 - Apr 8 with 492 viewsWeWereZombies

The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 12:54 - Apr 8 by sparks

It wasnt a mistake.

A mistake is when you get something wrong unintentionally.

It was a choice she made, in full possession of all facts.


Reasonable definition off Google:

an act or judgement that is misguided or wrong.
"coming here was a mistake"

Or could be restated as "trying to engage in reasonable discussion with sparks was a mistake"...

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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 13:12 - Apr 8 with 489 viewsmonytowbray

The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 13:10 - Apr 8 by WeWereZombies

Reasonable definition off Google:

an act or judgement that is misguided or wrong.
"coming here was a mistake"

Or could be restated as "trying to engage in reasonable discussion with sparks was a mistake"...


Exactly. You can make intentional mistakes. Pretty sure many people who have affairs call it a mistake despite knowing exactly what they were doing.

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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 14:56 - Apr 8 with 435 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 13:10 - Apr 8 by WeWereZombies

Reasonable definition off Google:

an act or judgement that is misguided or wrong.
"coming here was a mistake"

Or could be restated as "trying to engage in reasonable discussion with sparks was a mistake"...


Ha, if there was a TWTD POTD award still, you’d definitely have medalled in it

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The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 14:58 - Apr 8 with 433 viewsKeno

The Times have crunched the numbers on recovery rates.... on 14:56 - Apr 8 by C_HealyIsAPleasure

Ha, if there was a TWTD POTD award still, you’d definitely have medalled in it


But does he has any evidence for his post?

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