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So much for 20,000 17:33 - Apr 22 with 3977 views

I was horrified when I heard there would be an estimated 20,000 deaths from Covid19, it seems we will reach that number this weekend. I can see it being closer to 50,000.

So much for 20,000 on 18:09 - Apr 22 with 2566 views

Steve_M

That's only hospital deaths. The real number will be higher, maybe twice as high at present on the basis of extrapolating the difference between hospital deaths and icnreased deaths reported by ONS.

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So much for 20,000 on 18:11 - Apr 22 with 2558 views

Pecker

Only America will have worse than us.

So much for 20,000 on 18:21 - Apr 22 with 2531 views

SpruceMoose

So much for 20,000 on 18:11 - Apr 22 by Pecker
Only America will have worse than us.

Thanks to Trump we are only getting warmed up. Wait until all those backwards Red states like Georgia and Florida 'patriotically' open up for business at the end of the month and kill off large numbers of their populations.

USA - Tired of winning all the time.

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So much for 20,000 on 18:22 - Apr 22 with 2522 views

gordon

So much for 20,000 on 18:11 - Apr 22 by Pecker
Only America will have worse than us.

Brazil might come close. Basically, the message is don't have a tw#t for a leader.

So much for 20,000 on 18:26 - Apr 22 with 2511 views

jaykay

what have germany, new zealand. and taiwan have in common

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So much for 20,000 on 18:26 - Apr 22 with 2513 views

GeoffSentence

Didn't they say that we would be doing well if we could keep it down to 20,000 deaths rather than estimating that 20K would be the number.

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So much for 20,000 on 18:27 - Apr 22 with 2507 views

BlueBadger

So much for 20,000 on 18:11 - Apr 22 by Pecker
Only America will have worse than us.

...in the West. I fear an utter disaster in the poorer parts of Asia and Africa.

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So much for 20,000 on 18:27 - Apr 22 with 2503 views

Swansea_Blue

So much for 20,000 on 18:26 - Apr 22 by jaykay
what have germany, new zealand. and taiwan have in common

They've all got an 'a' in their name?

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So much for 20,000 on 18:30 - Apr 22 with 2497 views

m14_blue

So much for 20,000 on 18:26 - Apr 22 by GeoffSentence
Didn't they say that we would be doing well if we could keep it down to 20,000 deaths rather than estimating that 20K would be the number.

I don’t think there’s any danger of anyone sensible claiming we’ve ‘done well’ when this all comes out in the wash.

The mental gymnastics to defend the second highest death toll in the world could be interesting.

So much for 20,000 on 18:39 - Apr 22 with 2468 views

BlueBadger

So much for 20,000 on 18:21 - Apr 22 by SpruceMoose
Thanks to Trump we are only getting warmed up. Wait until all those backwards Red states like Georgia and Florida 'patriotically' open up for business at the end of the month and kill off large numbers of their populations. USA - Tired of winning all the time.

Remember - 'owning the lefties' is much more important than actually making things better for yourself or your community.

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So much for 20,000 on 18:39 - Apr 22 with 2459 views

BlueBadger

So much for 20,000 on 18:26 - Apr 22 by jaykay
what have germany, new zealand. and taiwan have in common

Competent government?

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So much for 20,000 on 18:45 - Apr 22 with 2427 views

GeoffSentence

So much for 20,000 on 18:30 - Apr 22 by m14_blue
I don’t think there’s any danger of anyone sensible claiming we’ve ‘done well’ when this all comes out in the wash. The mental gymnastics to defend the second highest death toll in the world could be interesting.

Doing well meaning that 20K would be a low figure.

Stephen Powis, NHS director said that if the figure was below 20000 then we would be going well. It wasn't an estimate of the number of deaths we should expect. Though I believe he was hoping we could do it.

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So much for 20,000 on 18:49 - Apr 22 with 2413 views

Tangledupin_Blue

We don't need to wait until the weekend.

If we include the deaths which have occurred in places other than hospitals then we are already well past 20,000.

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So much for 20,000 on 18:54 - Apr 22 with 2390 views

m14_blue

So much for 20,000 on 18:45 - Apr 22 by GeoffSentence
Doing well meaning that 20K would be a low figure. Stephen Powis, NHS director said that if the figure was below 20000 then we would be going well. It wasn't an estimate of the number of deaths we should expect. Though I believe he was hoping we could do it.

Yes I understand.

The clear inference being that if 20,000 means we’ve done well, and we end up with double that, then we’ve done particularly badly.

So much for 20,000 on 19:10 - Apr 22 with 2330 views

Dubtractor

I was thinking similar earlier. This must be going much worse than the govt had planned as they wont have released the 20k figure without them being confident they could improve on it.

20k is the benchmark against which the total number of deaths will be measured.

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So much for 20,000 on 19:14 - Apr 22 with 2312 views

Mercian

So much for 20,000 on 18:26 - Apr 22 by jaykay
what have germany, new zealand. and taiwan have in common

Female leaders.

So much for 20,000 on 19:32 - Apr 22 with 2253 views

Ftnfwest

So much for 20,000 on 18:11 - Apr 22 by Pecker
Only America will have worse than us.

Although Belgium’s death rate is double ours for some reason

So much for 20,000 on 20:00 - Apr 22 with 2188 views

NthQldITFC

So much for 20,000 on 18:26 - Apr 22 by jaykay
what have germany, new zealand. and taiwan have in common

None of them won the Battle of Britain.

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So much for 20,000 on 20:01 - Apr 22 with 2184 views

BlueNomad

So much for 20,000 on 18:22 - Apr 22 by gordon
Brazil might come close. Basically, the message is don't have a tw#t for a leader.

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So much for 20,000 on 20:49 - Apr 22 with 2119 views

TractorWood

So much for 20,000 on 19:10 - Apr 22 by Dubtractor
I was thinking similar earlier. This must be going much worse than the govt had planned as they wont have released the 20k figure without them being confident they could improve on it. 20k is the benchmark against which the total number of deaths will be measured.

The Government are having an absolute Weston.

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So much for 20,000 on 21:15 - Apr 22 with 2070 views

WD19

My original guess was 500k, so plenty of headroom yet.

Highlight so far has been the press reporting that they thought based on their calculations that 4K people had died in care homes and then being ‘shocked’ when the number leapt from 200 to the shockingly high 1000.

So much for 20,000 on 21:28 - Apr 22 with 2030 views

jaykay

So much for 20,000 on 18:26 - Apr 22 by jaykay
what have germany, new zealand. and taiwan have in common

put both parts of badgers and mercians correct answers and you have the perfect combination to fight this virus.

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So much for 20,000 on 21:31 - Apr 22 with 2006 views

longtimefan

So much for 20,000 on 20:00 - Apr 22 by NthQldITFC
None of them won the Battle of Britain.

Well there were a few NZ pilots in the RAF, so maybe not strictly true

So much for 20,000 on 21:35 - Apr 22 with 1984 views

C_HealyIsAPleasure

So much for 20,000 on 20:49 - Apr 22 by TractorWood
The Government are having an absolute Weston. [Post edited 22 Apr 2020 22:25]

*Weston, unless you mean it’s all gone a bit John Wayne

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So much for 20,000 on 21:38 - Apr 22 with 1968 views

Ely_Blue

So much for 20,000 on 18:11 - Apr 22 by Pecker
Only America will have worse than us.

Another nation where the people find it difficult to do as they are told, just like the morons in this country who can’t keep to social distancing and the government guidelines

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