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Lockdown 'fatigue' 12:02 - Apr 27 with 3974 viewsFixed_It

Our lockdown isn't really a lockdown at all, so people just need to abide by the guidelines and be thankful.
My daughter lives in an apartment in Madrid. She has only been outside 5 times in the last 45 days - to go to the supermarket which is 300m away. Not because she is paranoid - but because those are the rules and they are strictly enforced.
I spoke to her last night and they are indeed relaxing their lockdown. As of yesterday, children were allowed to go out for a walk with an adult - the first time in six weeks. Some children, without gardens, have been stuck indoors for the entire time. If the relaxaion goes well this week, it is hoped that adults will also be able to go outside for a recreational walk.
So people here really have no idea what a real lockdown entails - and this talk of 'lockdown fatigue' looks a bit silly in the context of other countries who have had much stricter rules.
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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 13:08 - Apr 27 with 1296 viewsmonytowbray

Lockdown 'fatigue' on 12:53 - Apr 27 by factual_blue

Some good stuff there Callis.

But it's 'fewer p!ss ups'

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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 13:10 - Apr 27 with 1294 viewsfactual_blue

Lockdown 'fatigue' on 13:08 - Apr 27 by monytowbray

I'm 21 weeks booze free now and it's been a liberating experience. Even if it didn't help with my grammar.




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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 13:11 - Apr 27 with 1290 viewsmonytowbray

Lockdown 'fatigue' on 13:10 - Apr 27 by factual_blue



Don't tell anybody on here, but some things are more important than grammar.


Like political point scoring and attention seeking for example. Or so a couple of people have claimed in the last 6 weeks...
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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 13:42 - Apr 27 with 1262 viewsgiant_stow

Forgive me, but I think your post is a bit daft.

Yes, our lockdown is nowhere near as severe as those of some other countries, but everyone's experience is relative.

It's like a guy with no legs telling off a guy with one for moaning about having it tough. They've both got it tough.

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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 13:53 - Apr 27 with 1239 viewsmonytowbray

Lockdown 'fatigue' on 13:42 - Apr 27 by giant_stow

Forgive me, but I think your post is a bit daft.

Yes, our lockdown is nowhere near as severe as those of some other countries, but everyone's experience is relative.

It's like a guy with no legs telling off a guy with one for moaning about having it tough. They've both got it tough.


I don't think the OP was that deep to be fair. I didn't find it dismissive, just a bit of perspective to maybe help people see things in a better light.

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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 14:07 - Apr 27 with 1228 viewsFixed_It

Lockdown 'fatigue' on 13:42 - Apr 27 by giant_stow

Forgive me, but I think your post is a bit daft.

Yes, our lockdown is nowhere near as severe as those of some other countries, but everyone's experience is relative.

It's like a guy with no legs telling off a guy with one for moaning about having it tough. They've both got it tough.


I would suggest that those people who are working long and stressful shifts in hospitals, and those who are in intensive care, and those who have lost loved ones but couldn't be with them to say goodbye, have it tough. And those people flouting the guidelines are just prolonging it all and increasing the likelihood of others falling into those categories. All relative I know, but not being able to go freely about ones daily business, go to pubs and football matches doesn't even register on the scale as far as I am concerned.

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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 14:17 - Apr 27 with 1217 viewsgiant_stow

Lockdown 'fatigue' on 14:07 - Apr 27 by Fixed_It

I would suggest that those people who are working long and stressful shifts in hospitals, and those who are in intensive care, and those who have lost loved ones but couldn't be with them to say goodbye, have it tough. And those people flouting the guidelines are just prolonging it all and increasing the likelihood of others falling into those categories. All relative I know, but not being able to go freely about ones daily business, go to pubs and football matches doesn't even register on the scale as far as I am concerned.


Im glad for you that you're able to cope, but not everyone will have your make up, resourcefulness or resouces.

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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 14:22 - Apr 27 with 1214 viewsBrixtonBlue

Lockdown 'fatigue' on 12:37 - Apr 27 by monytowbray

Our version of lockdown is basically how I lived life for most of last year but with less p1ss ups.

I said yesterday I think people with MH issues are oddly more prepared for this as I’ve spent large chunks of my life irrationally worried/miserable and not leaving my bed. This is more of the same but this time it’s completely rational. It’s those who these feelings are new to I worry about as the battle with MH is being equipped with the information and methods you need to get past it. If you ain’t got that then you’ll feel pretty hopeless and stuck.


That's a really good point. I feel like I'm dealing with this really well... if anything work is more relaxing than it was in the office. But maybe because I've dealt with MH issues in the past I am, as you say, better equipped to cope. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 14:25 - Apr 27 with 1204 viewsEwan_Oozami

Lockdown 'fatigue' on 13:10 - Apr 27 by factual_blue



Don't tell anybody on here, but some things are more important than grammar.


Who are you and what have you done with Facters?

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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 14:32 - Apr 27 with 1201 viewsFixed_It

Lockdown 'fatigue' on 14:17 - Apr 27 by giant_stow

Im glad for you that you're able to cope, but not everyone will have your make up, resourcefulness or resouces.


Oh yeah - I forgot - you're home schooling aren't you!

Not trying to belittle what you say - and I'm genuinely sorry if you are finding it difficult - but in the grand scheme of things we don't have it as tough as many in some countries or even others in this country. Maybe we just need to keep reminding ourselves of that as a coping strategy if nothing else.
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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 14:35 - Apr 27 with 1195 viewsBrixtonBlue

Lockdown 'fatigue' on 14:17 - Apr 27 by giant_stow

Im glad for you that you're able to cope, but not everyone will have your make up, resourcefulness or resouces.


How do you know he wears make up?

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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 14:36 - Apr 27 with 1193 viewsfactual_blue

Lockdown 'fatigue' on 14:25 - Apr 27 by Ewan_Oozami

Who are you and what have you done with Facters?


There should be a comma after the first 'you'.

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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 14:36 - Apr 27 with 1192 viewsFixed_It

Lockdown 'fatigue' on 14:35 - Apr 27 by BrixtonBlue

How do you know he wears make up?


Only at weekends I'll have you know.

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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 14:38 - Apr 27 with 1191 viewsFixed_It

Lockdown 'fatigue' on 14:36 - Apr 27 by factual_blue

There should be a comma after the first 'you'.


'Facters is back! Facters is Back! Hello! Hello! Facters is back!...'

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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 14:39 - Apr 27 with 1192 viewsgiant_stow

Lockdown 'fatigue' on 14:32 - Apr 27 by Fixed_It

Oh yeah - I forgot - you're home schooling aren't you!

Not trying to belittle what you say - and I'm genuinely sorry if you are finding it difficult - but in the grand scheme of things we don't have it as tough as many in some countries or even others in this country. Maybe we just need to keep reminding ourselves of that as a coping strategy if nothing else.
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How did you know i was talking kids?! It is indeed bludy hard and i worry how lockdown is affecting him. But by the same toekn i know i have it easy compared to someone in a flat, abusive relationship or with no money.

I can live with your last sentence. 'Phew' you say!
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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 14:42 - Apr 27 with 1186 viewsmonytowbray

Lockdown 'fatigue' on 14:36 - Apr 27 by Fixed_It

Only at weekends I'll have you know.


if I weren't too old and bald to get away with guy-liner I'd be full GOFF.

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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 15:09 - Apr 27 with 1161 viewsPinewoodblue

Lockdown 'fatigue' on 12:59 - Apr 27 by noggin

Where did you get that figure for Norway and Estonia? It's wrong. As of yesterday, Norway has 201 deaths.


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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 15:25 - Apr 27 with 1152 viewsjontysnut

Lockdown 'fatigue' on 12:44 - Apr 27 by Fixed_It

Yeah - I chose to ignore the bizarre reference to 'point scoring'.


I have to say it's been pretty well done where I live. There's a small park opposite and while there have been joggers and dog walkers and mums and dads out with kids it's still quiet and no-one has been sunbathing or meeting up in groups. Shops are all well organised - people are just getting on with it. Things could be a lot worse.
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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 17:24 - Apr 27 with 1108 viewsEwan_Oozami

Lockdown 'fatigue' on 14:36 - Apr 27 by factual_blue

There should be a comma after the first 'you'.


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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 19:09 - Apr 27 with 1068 viewspointofblue

I think the issue with mental health is real, though - whatever people are living through and struggling with is real. Some of us may be able to compartmentalise it with what’s happening elsewhere and how it could be worse; others are unable to do so. And they need to be listened to and helped, where possible, otherwise the struggles will just get worse as time goes on.

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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 18:59 - Apr 28 with 977 viewsRyorry

Lockdown 'fatigue' on 12:37 - Apr 27 by monytowbray

Our version of lockdown is basically how I lived life for most of last year but with less p1ss ups.

I said yesterday I think people with MH issues are oddly more prepared for this as I’ve spent large chunks of my life irrationally worried/miserable and not leaving my bed. This is more of the same but this time it’s completely rational. It’s those who these feelings are new to I worry about as the battle with MH is being equipped with the information and methods you need to get past it. If you ain’t got that then you’ll feel pretty hopeless and stuck.


You can count many physically disabled people as probably being better prepared for the current lockdown too, so many are, unfortunately, used to being housebound and having to live a restricted life.

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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 19:49 - Apr 28 with 941 viewsmonytowbray

Lockdown 'fatigue' on 18:59 - Apr 28 by Ryorry

You can count many physically disabled people as probably being better prepared for the current lockdown too, so many are, unfortunately, used to being housebound and having to live a restricted life.


My Dad is getting on fine and he's been housebound for most of 5 years (alas he was getting out more in the last year).

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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 20:42 - Apr 28 with 933 viewsTractorWood

Lockdown 'fatigue' on 12:29 - Apr 27 by Mullet

Yeah, I'm really baffled by people thinking that density and demographics make no difference.


Metropolitan Tokyo has 38 million people. Under 4,000 cases. Japan also has one of the oldest populations in the world.
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Lockdown 'fatigue' on 20:53 - Apr 28 with 918 viewsgordon

Lockdown 'fatigue' on 20:42 - Apr 28 by TractorWood

Metropolitan Tokyo has 38 million people. Under 4,000 cases. Japan also has one of the oldest populations in the world.
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In terms of international comparisons, while demography might have some effect, the timing of measures is likely to be a far, far greater influence in most cases.

Given that cases were doubling every 3-4 days pre-lockdown, and the spread in timing of lockdowns was about 3 weeks (indexed to a common point on the epidemic curve), the timing of measures will far outweigh any other factor.
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