| Sounds like France are about to..... 14:29 - Apr 28 with 5209 views | Bloots |
….cancel the current football season entirely.
Assume they will declare it null and void. |  |
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| Sounds like France are about to..... on 15:26 - Apr 28 with 2215 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 15:17 - Apr 28 by ElderGrizzly |
Because they are focused on money and avoiding paying Sky a £760m 'contract fine' and seem happy putting hundred at risk directly on a match day to do so.
I'd imagine if Sky said the payback was no longer required, the league would end tomorrow. |
All leagues are trying desperately to finish the season for the same reason, those stances are only now starting to change as it’s becoming apparent it won’t be possible
It’s a nonsense point - the PL is no doubt an inherently greedy organisation however the desire to get playing again ASAP isn’t any different to any other league, or indeed business for that matter
The Sky money won’t be the big issue for the PL anyway, they’ll likely be able to come to some sort of arrangement once football is able to resume (in simple terms - more games, including Sat 3pm kick offs). The bigger issue will be overseas rights, where there aren’t any additional games to offer [Post edited 28 Apr 2020 15:29]
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| Sounds like France are about to..... on 15:32 - Apr 28 with 2196 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 15:26 - Apr 28 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
All leagues are trying desperately to finish the season for the same reason, those stances are only now starting to change as it’s becoming apparent it won’t be possible
It’s a nonsense point - the PL is no doubt an inherently greedy organisation however the desire to get playing again ASAP isn’t any different to any other league, or indeed business for that matter
The Sky money won’t be the big issue for the PL anyway, they’ll likely be able to come to some sort of arrangement once football is able to resume (in simple terms - more games, including Sat 3pm kick offs). The bigger issue will be overseas rights, where there aren’t any additional games to offer [Post edited 28 Apr 2020 15:29]
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The reports coming out of the PL meetings appear to show it is pretty much all about the Sky money.
Agree every business needs to try and survive, but not literally at the price of people not surviving. I guess i'm in the 77%
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| Sounds like France are about to..... on 15:42 - Apr 28 with 2172 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 15:32 - Apr 28 by ElderGrizzly |
The reports coming out of the PL meetings appear to show it is pretty much all about the Sky money.
Agree every business needs to try and survive, but not literally at the price of people not surviving. I guess i'm in the 77%
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I wasn’t disputing that it was about money - but gain it’s exactly the same with any other league or indeed business trying to resume. It’s just a lazy stick to beat football with when the reality is that any business with high outgoings is going to be in severe trouble if they can’t ‘trade’
The specific reference to Sky is lazy journalism for the reason I outline. Clearly Sky will be challenging but it’s pretty apparent that there is a solution that can be reached there, barring it not being possible for any kind of resumption for months and months
EDIT: Also no need for the high horse 77% comment, I agree fully, but that doesn’t mean it’s not possible to see the other side of the coin [Post edited 28 Apr 2020 15:43]
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| Sounds like France are about to..... on 15:43 - Apr 28 with 2167 views | The_Last_Baron |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 14:45 - Apr 28 by gainsboroughblue |
They've all played the same amount of games except Strasbourg I think who are lower mid table and PSG who are top anyway, so nothing really needed in terms of alteration. |
What if a team fighting relegation has played the top six clubs twice and another relegation battler has only played them once. Unless a league is completed 100% you cannot hand out positions whatever way you wish. Null and void is the only fair option.
As for the Premier League and PFA, their lust and need for vast amounts of money are resulting in them refusing to accept reality. There will be no finishing this season, it isn't going to happen and they sooner they accept this the better.
The crazy era of spiralling wages in football and mad transfer fees has come to an end. Players won't like it but that is what is happening. Expect the average Premier League wage to be 20k a week two years from now. |  |
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| Sounds like France are about to..... on 15:51 - Apr 28 with 2145 views | factual_blue |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 14:33 - Apr 28 by BlueBadger |
If we do the same, and all events of this season are null and void, does this mean that Paul Lambert now doesn't have a five year contract? |
It means this null and void season isn't counted towards the five years. |  |
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| Sounds like France are about to..... on 15:52 - Apr 28 with 2143 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 15:43 - Apr 28 by The_Last_Baron |
What if a team fighting relegation has played the top six clubs twice and another relegation battler has only played them once. Unless a league is completed 100% you cannot hand out positions whatever way you wish. Null and void is the only fair option.
As for the Premier League and PFA, their lust and need for vast amounts of money are resulting in them refusing to accept reality. There will be no finishing this season, it isn't going to happen and they sooner they accept this the better.
The crazy era of spiralling wages in football and mad transfer fees has come to an end. Players won't like it but that is what is happening. Expect the average Premier League wage to be 20k a week two years from now. |
Yep. Totally fair point and it's not ideal. I was basing my post on what had happened in other leagues, certainly the Scottish ones from Championship down have done with the PPG calculation. I also figured that they may abandon relegation and promote the top two as normal, thus having 22 clubs next season rather than 20. |  |
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| Sounds like France are about to..... on 15:54 - Apr 28 with 2135 views | factual_blue |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 14:48 - Apr 28 by Pinewoodblue |
Leave to Guthrum to calculate the final league tables. |
He's got a ceiling to finish, then he's off to take over in North Korea. | |
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| Sounds like France are about to..... on 15:54 - Apr 28 with 2134 views | J2BLUE |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 15:26 - Apr 28 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
All leagues are trying desperately to finish the season for the same reason, those stances are only now starting to change as it’s becoming apparent it won’t be possible
It’s a nonsense point - the PL is no doubt an inherently greedy organisation however the desire to get playing again ASAP isn’t any different to any other league, or indeed business for that matter
The Sky money won’t be the big issue for the PL anyway, they’ll likely be able to come to some sort of arrangement once football is able to resume (in simple terms - more games, including Sat 3pm kick offs). The bigger issue will be overseas rights, where there aren’t any additional games to offer [Post edited 28 Apr 2020 15:29]
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Stop it, you'll soften EG's Corona boner. For some reason he really seems to need this to be as bad as possible. |  |
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| Sounds like France are about to..... on 16:04 - Apr 28 with 2124 views | Pablokuqi |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 15:52 - Apr 28 by gainsboroughblue |
Yep. Totally fair point and it's not ideal. I was basing my post on what had happened in other leagues, certainly the Scottish ones from Championship down have done with the PPG calculation. I also figured that they may abandon relegation and promote the top two as normal, thus having 22 clubs next season rather than 20. |
I think the no relegation and promote 2 is looking the most likely scenario. Extra prem games to appease sky for next season too. The current talk is neutral grounds behind closed doors well this would affect the integrity of the competition greatly. While the government feel football might raise morale, it would be galling if football was being played but you can't see your mum. As much as I would love a void season for the Liverpool comedy value I can see no relegation and ppg calculations for places as the most likely outcome at the moment. |  | | |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 16:25 - Apr 28 with 2104 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 15:52 - Apr 28 by gainsboroughblue |
Yep. Totally fair point and it's not ideal. I was basing my post on what had happened in other leagues, certainly the Scottish ones from Championship down have done with the PPG calculation. I also figured that they may abandon relegation and promote the top two as normal, thus having 22 clubs next season rather than 20. |
It’s unfair either way. If the season is void then Liverpool will have been jilted and Norwich beneficiaries, whereas if it’s declared finished now on PPG then Villa would be relegated despite having a game in a hand that could see them survive
The amounts at stake make it a massive problem - if it wasn’t for the financial impact then you could just finish the season and so be it. If Villa were relegated as a result it would still be unfair, but ultimately it wouldn’t really matter
I still think the PL have dropped the ball big time by not legislating for a scenario where the season couldn’t be completed by a certain date. Obviously the current specific issue could never have been forecast but it’s not inconceivable that something would come up to cause this sort of a problem, and a hard and fast F1 type rule (eg. More than x% of the season complete, considered finished, less than x% null and void) would remove all of the legal headaches, even if the unfairness would remain | |
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| Sounds like France are about to..... on 16:26 - Apr 28 with 2101 views | itfcjoe |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 15:19 - Apr 28 by Chrisd |
I’m assuming with construction you could police it better in terms of people working in designated areas and keeping their distance. Could you do that for a football match? I’m not trying to be an ar*e, more playing devil’s advocate. |
They'll claim you can, but in reality it's impossible to do so. Too many tasks just can not be done on their own, at best you would just need to buddy up with someone and share the risks.
Appreciate that isn' the same in football, but realistically only the players on the pitch and the officials will come into contact with each other |  |
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| Sounds like France are about to..... on 16:31 - Apr 28 with 2090 views | monytowbray |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 16:25 - Apr 28 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
It’s unfair either way. If the season is void then Liverpool will have been jilted and Norwich beneficiaries, whereas if it’s declared finished now on PPG then Villa would be relegated despite having a game in a hand that could see them survive
The amounts at stake make it a massive problem - if it wasn’t for the financial impact then you could just finish the season and so be it. If Villa were relegated as a result it would still be unfair, but ultimately it wouldn’t really matter
I still think the PL have dropped the ball big time by not legislating for a scenario where the season couldn’t be completed by a certain date. Obviously the current specific issue could never have been forecast but it’s not inconceivable that something would come up to cause this sort of a problem, and a hard and fast F1 type rule (eg. More than x% of the season complete, considered finished, less than x% null and void) would remove all of the legal headaches, even if the unfairness would remain |
The true ITFC fan wants the session declared done as it stands though, right?
You know those jammy pricks will roll a double 6 and end up getting into Europe or something if the season result goes in their favour. Although it would be funny to rinse them that they can only get close to our success with the help of a virus. |  |
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| Sounds like France are about to..... on 16:38 - Apr 28 with 2073 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 14:33 - Apr 28 by BlueBadger |
If we do the same, and all events of this season are null and void, does this mean that Paul Lambert now doesn't have a five year contract? |
Worse - it would mean he has not had one of the years and so he still has five years left instead of four.
It would be interesting what different scenarios do to the possibility of having it terminated. Presumably there are non-promotion break clauses but how they are worded could be critical. If the season is declared null and void it would be difficult to argue he failed to achieve promotion or finished 10th in what was actually a non-event. |  |
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| Sounds like France are about to..... on 16:39 - Apr 28 with 2073 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 16:31 - Apr 28 by monytowbray |
The true ITFC fan wants the session declared done as it stands though, right?
You know those jammy pricks will roll a double 6 and end up getting into Europe or something if the season result goes in their favour. Although it would be funny to rinse them that they can only get close to our success with the help of a virus. |
The true ITFC fan hopes that by some weird ruling, the season is declared complete as per the standings on 27th January | |
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| Sounds like France are about to..... on 16:45 - Apr 28 with 2057 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 16:39 - Apr 28 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
The true ITFC fan hopes that by some weird ruling, the season is declared complete as per the standings on 27th January |
Maybe we can hope they go by the first result only against each team as we haven't played everyone twice?
Does having promotion temper the fact we then wouldn't be able to sack PL?
Also the Premier League situation has a double side to it. If there is no relegation Norwich have the realistic opportunity to be the only side ever to finish bottom of the Premier League in successive seasons. | |
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| Sounds like France are about to..... on 16:56 - Apr 28 with 2050 views | Crock |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 14:45 - Apr 28 by gainsboroughblue |
They've all played the same amount of games except Strasbourg I think who are lower mid table and PSG who are top anyway, so nothing really needed in terms of alteration. |
But if Strasbourg win that game they would be 5th, 6th or 7th and in the Europa League for next season. |  |
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| Sounds like France are about to..... on 17:00 - Apr 28 with 2048 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 16:56 - Apr 28 by Crock |
But if Strasbourg win that game they would be 5th, 6th or 7th and in the Europa League for next season. |
Crikey. I didn't notice how tight that was. | |
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| Sounds like France are about to..... on 17:04 - Apr 28 with 2040 views | monytowbray |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 16:39 - Apr 28 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
The true ITFC fan hopes that by some weird ruling, the season is declared complete as per the standings on 27th January |
Can we rig some antibody tests to say the entire team had it for the duration of 2020? | |
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| Sounds like France are about to..... on 17:06 - Apr 28 with 2037 views | vapour_trail |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 15:43 - Apr 28 by The_Last_Baron |
What if a team fighting relegation has played the top six clubs twice and another relegation battler has only played them once. Unless a league is completed 100% you cannot hand out positions whatever way you wish. Null and void is the only fair option.
As for the Premier League and PFA, their lust and need for vast amounts of money are resulting in them refusing to accept reality. There will be no finishing this season, it isn't going to happen and they sooner they accept this the better.
The crazy era of spiralling wages in football and mad transfer fees has come to an end. Players won't like it but that is what is happening. Expect the average Premier League wage to be 20k a week two years from now. |
You were doing well until the final para. |  |
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| Already cancelled.. on 17:14 - Apr 28 with 2034 views | unstableblue |
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Latest on Premier League restart, UEFA deadline by unstableblue 28 Apr 2020 16:10UEFA stating 25th May deadline for decision on league programmes.
Latest on Premier League thinking and European leagues.... hadn’t realised so many had packed it in and gone for zero titles and relegation/promotion
I do feel sorry for Liverpool
––––––The Premier League league is hopeful of a potential 8 June restart and finishing at the end of July to fit in with Uefa's European competition plans. This would require full training to begin by 18 May.
Top-flight clubs will meet on Friday to discuss options for the restart.
Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden said he had been in contact with clubs about restarting the Premier League "as soon as possible".
Professional Footballers' Association deputy chief executive Bobby Barnes said: "We have been assured of the intentions of all that there would be no resumption unless guarantees of safety could be given to the players.
"The overriding principle for all parties is the health and safety of all participants on and off the field, and of course the wider public."
The Scottish Premiership is suspended indefinitely and the season could yet be declared over, a move already taken with the second, third and fourth tiers north of the border.
On Tuesday, the French government banned all sporting events, even without spectators, until September, signalling the end of the season for the top two divisions in the country, Ligue 1 and Ligue 2.
The Dutch top flight was abandoned on Friday with no promotion or relegation and no champions, while on Monday Belgian clubs postponed a vote on confirming the cancellation of their top flight until next week.
The deadline set by Uefa is referred to in a set of guidelines on 'eligibility principles' for European competitions that the governing body's president and general secretary have sent out to football bodies.
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| Sounds like France are about to..... on 17:43 - Apr 28 with 2016 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 15:54 - Apr 28 by J2BLUE |
Stop it, you'll soften EG's Corona boner. For some reason he really seems to need this to be as bad as possible. |
Not really. I've got a wife with cancer, so i'd prefer it would f*ck off...
It's just i'm living it every day with work, so i tend to feel rather passionately about it and that we should be doing everything we can to minimise the risk. Which restarting the PL, in the time-frame discussed or opening department stores next month isn't doing
Thanks for your predictable mocking though. Bravo. | | | |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 18:12 - Apr 28 with 2004 views | monytowbray |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 17:43 - Apr 28 by ElderGrizzly |
Not really. I've got a wife with cancer, so i'd prefer it would f*ck off...
It's just i'm living it every day with work, so i tend to feel rather passionately about it and that we should be doing everything we can to minimise the risk. Which restarting the PL, in the time-frame discussed or opening department stores next month isn't doing
Thanks for your predictable mocking though. Bravo. |
Man that’s rough, sorry to hear.
I got a kinda “from out and about but not close” mate who got diagnosed just before this kicked off and another person I know from my Southsea days who is terminal with a brain tumour so this has hacked into his final days and the enjoyment he can have from them.
It’s all a bit rubbish. | |
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| Sounds like France are about to..... on 18:23 - Apr 28 with 1996 views | yesjohn99 |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 16:26 - Apr 28 by itfcjoe |
They'll claim you can, but in reality it's impossible to do so. Too many tasks just can not be done on their own, at best you would just need to buddy up with someone and share the risks.
Appreciate that isn' the same in football, but realistically only the players on the pitch and the officials will come into contact with each other |
I work In railfreight so still going to work like normal. The official line, in black and white from our top top management is keep 2 metres apart at all times (unless operations make it impossible to do so).
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| Sounds like France are about to..... on 18:26 - Apr 28 with 1990 views | yesjohn99 |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 15:51 - Apr 28 by factual_blue |
It means this null and void season isn't counted towards the five years. |
Surely he signed a five year deal, not a five season deal? | | | |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 18:43 - Apr 28 with 1967 views | fabian_illness |
| Sounds like France are about to..... on 17:43 - Apr 28 by ElderGrizzly |
Not really. I've got a wife with cancer, so i'd prefer it would f*ck off...
It's just i'm living it every day with work, so i tend to feel rather passionately about it and that we should be doing everything we can to minimise the risk. Which restarting the PL, in the time-frame discussed or opening department stores next month isn't doing
Thanks for your predictable mocking though. Bravo. |
Sorry to hear about your Mrs EG.
Hope she’s doing ok. |  | | |
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