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I think I'm right in saying that 12:42 - Apr 29 with 2634 viewsfactual_blue

boris's latest child (which is I think his second - or possibly third - born out of wedlock) is the first illegitimate child fathered by an incumbent Prime Minister so far as I can establish, although those 18th century toffs were at it like knives, so one can't be certain.

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I think I'm right in saying that on 16:15 - Apr 30 with 337 viewsJ2BLUE

I think I'm right in saying that on 08:44 - Apr 30 by itfcjoe

I think your personal life will say a lot about someone and how much you can trust them, and of course not everyone's is perfect.

But even in 'real life' if I have a mate who is willing to cheat on wife and family, and then not do the decent thing by them I lose a lot of respect and time I have for them - especially when it comes to kids. Without trying to claim to be holier than thou there are previous friends I now no longer really speak to because of some of their actions in private life which makes me think less about them as a person - not just in a way of stopping point blank but just having less time for them until it happens naturally.

I struggle to understand how, especially in the US with Trump, there are some very conservative people who are your married with 2.4 children lot, who are still likely anti-gay marriage, etc can stomach a PM or President who clearly has very loose morals in their private life with regards to women


I've lost several friends for telling them what I think after they've cheated.

Truly impaired.
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I think I'm right in saying that on 16:51 - Apr 30 with 323 viewsChurchman

I think I'm right in saying that on 01:19 - Apr 30 by jeera

I think it would be nice if we had someone in charge of the country who wasn't a lying philanderer, regardless of their political persuasion, wouldn't you?

Some sort of stability at the top might be at least a good start as far as role models go.

Especially when there's been many a post complaining about a lack of fatherly role models in society - absent fathers et al - from a section of the population.

Been mentioned on here many times indeed in fact.


I understand what you are saying and I actually don’t disagree with you. My point was very much around in an imperfect world with imperfect people, I’ll accept imperfect people with shambolic personal lives if they’re good at their job over somebody with a perfect lifestyle, domestic harmony and spotless past who is useless. I just want them to be good at their job.

I’ve painted a slightly black and white image of work v private life, which does reflect my view, but I’m being rather hypocritical and inconsistent in that I hated watching Bowyer play for Ipswich, not because he was over the hill and had a fight with Dyer, but because of what he was and probably still is. I hated Ben Thatcher being anywhere near the club too.
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I think I'm right in saying that on 17:25 - Apr 30 with 308 viewsSwansea_Blue

I think I'm right in saying that on 12:55 - Apr 29 by uefacup81

Because it means we can legitimately call it "Boris Johnson's b@stard child"?


Cue infamous Private Eye front page.


Genuinely, I wish them all the best ion their private lives. I hope for Carrie's and the kid's sakes that Boris is going to stay true to this relationship. I know he has got form for running off and avoiding responsibility in this department, but who knows, maybe this is 'the one' and it'll be the making of him.

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I think I'm right in saying that on 17:33 - Apr 30 with 302 viewstractordownsouth

I think I'm right in saying that on 00:58 - Apr 30 by jeera

You make yourself look stupid with this crap.

Stick to the sensible stuff and drop the juvenile attempts to troll.

You're not a child.


I'm not so sure he isn't...

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I think I'm right in saying that on 17:36 - Apr 30 with 300 viewsLord_Lucan

I think I'm right in saying that on 11:00 - Apr 30 by Churchman

Any form of corruption is not on for me. Neither is any form of theft including MPs taking money for living in London and using it for home improvements etc. Using influence to gain in any form in that way isn’t good. That includes contracts for party donations, invitation of Cameron’s Cabinet to dinner at BT Martlesham swiftly followed by a change of heart and planning permission for 4000 new houses on the land that was formerly the airfield. Funding an influence by Trade Unions are included in this and I say that as a PCS member.

Back to the point, I don’t think anyone remembers Benjamin Franklin’s chaotic personal life or Einstein’s come to that. Picasso, Hemingway and the Pre-Raphaelites it was virtually a badge of honour. Clinton’s fun and games on the Oval Office floor will always make me laugh, but he was a better President than corrupt Nixon, weak George Bush Snr or utterly useless Carter and that’s how he’ll be remembered.

Women being judged differently is a completely different issue for me. That is sexism which like most other ‘isms’ is totally unacceptable.

I stand by my view that Boris’ personal life is just that, as is Starmer’s, Corbyn’s, Jimmy Krankie’s and anyone else in public life. I’ll judge him on what he does as PM and that alone, just as would anyone else.


I must admit I'm a bit like Joe in real life inasmuch as I don't care for people who cheat on their partners.

I suppose you could just about forgive a one night stand or a brief fling when you are younger although I still think both are not to be celebrated and I would not be happy if I found out any of my mates were doing such things.

Actually one of my very best mates was found recently to have been living an actual full on double life for months and months and I was the last person to know as he has said he was worried that I would be annoyed and upset with him. Which I was.

Mind you, Boris doesn't hold a candle to JFK or Clinton - both of whom were allegedly a bit rapey.

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I think I'm right in saying that on 17:39 - Apr 30 with 294 viewsTrequartista

Calling a child illegitimate is completely inappropriate - the poor bastard.

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I think I'm right in saying that on 19:28 - Apr 30 with 270 viewsChurchman

I think I'm right in saying that on 17:36 - Apr 30 by Lord_Lucan

I must admit I'm a bit like Joe in real life inasmuch as I don't care for people who cheat on their partners.

I suppose you could just about forgive a one night stand or a brief fling when you are younger although I still think both are not to be celebrated and I would not be happy if I found out any of my mates were doing such things.

Actually one of my very best mates was found recently to have been living an actual full on double life for months and months and I was the last person to know as he has said he was worried that I would be annoyed and upset with him. Which I was.

Mind you, Boris doesn't hold a candle to JFK or Clinton - both of whom were allegedly a bit rapey.


When it comes to friends, I really don't think about it or care provided they are straight with me. The rest of it, their problem not mine. If I’m asked for advice or a view I’ll give it. If they were to lie to me or use me, that’d be different. I have to confess there are limits. A friend of mine treated his wife, who was also somebody I knew, cruelly. He is not somebody I know now. Of people Ive known a long time, aside from myself, only my ski chum is with the same partner from all those years ago.
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