| CH4 News at the moment 19:08 - May 7 with 2347 views | Bent_double |
worth a watch for anyone who things our gov have actually done a good job preparing for this pandemic.  |  |
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| CH4 News at the moment on 19:12 - May 7 with 1403 views | The_Last_Baron |
I'd imagine the news room in there is solidly anti-Tory, and-Boris, anti-Brexit/pro-EU and anti-Trump. |  |
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| CH4 News at the moment on 19:19 - May 7 with 1385 views | bluelagos |
| CH4 News at the moment on 19:12 - May 7 by The_Last_Baron |
I'd imagine the news room in there is solidly anti-Tory, and-Boris, anti-Brexit/pro-EU and anti-Trump. |
Sure you are right, but that doesn't mean what they are reporting isn't correct. It is possible to to think the Tories have been hopeless on CV whether or not you support them. |  |
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| CH4 News at the moment on 19:21 - May 7 with 1371 views | The_Last_Baron |
| CH4 News at the moment on 19:19 - May 7 by bluelagos |
Sure you are right, but that doesn't mean what they are reporting isn't correct. It is possible to to think the Tories have been hopeless on CV whether or not you support them. |
You have a point although it is impossible to trust that their investigations into political affairs are done from an impartial starting point. | |
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| CH4 News at the moment on 19:22 - May 7 with 1376 views | TractorWood |
| CH4 News at the moment on 19:12 - May 7 by The_Last_Baron |
I'd imagine the news room in there is solidly anti-Tory, and-Boris, anti-Brexit/pro-EU and anti-Trump. |
They are having a Weston though. Regardless of political allegiance. Our politics is not so poisonously partisan that we can't agree that. Surely. |  |
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| CH4 News at the moment on 19:27 - May 7 with 1357 views | bluelagos |
| CH4 News at the moment on 19:21 - May 7 by The_Last_Baron |
You have a point although it is impossible to trust that their investigations into political affairs are done from an impartial starting point. |
That's where I would beg to differ. I have met / encountered two of their current reporters both of whom I have no doubt would only ever report truthfully.
I think their left wing bias (which I accept) would mean they are quick to highlight government failures, but they would both still be partial in ensuring the story was factually accurate imho. | |
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| CH4 News at the moment on 19:35 - May 7 with 1338 views | BlueBadger |
| CH4 News at the moment on 19:12 - May 7 by The_Last_Baron |
I'd imagine the news room in there is solidly anti-Tory, and-Boris, anti-Brexit/pro-EU and anti-Trump. |
Facts have a tendency to run contrary to the bullsh1t you happily swallow from those proven and habitual liars, yes. [Post edited 7 May 2020 19:37]
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| CH4 News at the moment on 19:36 - May 7 with 1332 views | BlueBadger |
| CH4 News at the moment on 19:21 - May 7 by The_Last_Baron |
You have a point although it is impossible to trust that their investigations into political affairs are done from an impartial starting point. |
In this case,the starting point is 'have the government done a good job?'
All the evidence says 'no'. | |
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| CH4 News at the moment on 19:37 - May 7 with 1327 views | NewcyBlue |
| CH4 News at the moment on 19:36 - May 7 by BlueBadger |
In this case,the starting point is 'have the government done a good job?'
All the evidence says 'no'. |
Overwhelming evidence. |  |
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| CH4 News at the moment on 19:38 - May 7 with 1320 views | BlueBadger |
| CH4 News at the moment on 19:37 - May 7 by NewcyBlue |
Overwhelming evidence. |
Any day now, I'm sure that dear old Baron will be able to tell us what the concrete benefits are of a no-deal Brexit to people who aren't billionaires. | |
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| CH4 News at the moment on 19:38 - May 7 with 1323 views | pointofblue |
The government have been poor throughout the pandemic and that's being kind... but seeing the Jon Snow/Rachel Reeves mutual arse-licking session tonight was one of the most nauseating pieces of news production I have ever seen. |  |
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| CH4 News at the moment on 19:40 - May 7 with 1312 views | NewcyBlue |
| CH4 News at the moment on 19:38 - May 7 by BlueBadger |
Any day now, I'm sure that dear old Baron will be able to tell us what the concrete benefits are of a no-deal Brexit to people who aren't billionaires. |
Less brown people scaring him. | |
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| CH4 News at the moment on 19:44 - May 7 with 1290 views | Pecker |
Not sure anybody has said they have done a good job. Probably done the best/think they could. They could certainly have done better, with hindsight. Would labour/Lib Dems have done better? Debateable. |  | | |
| CH4 News at the moment on 19:46 - May 7 with 1284 views | NewcyBlue |
Presumably Brexiteers are too busy picking fruit and veg to notice this? | |
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| CH4 News at the moment on 19:47 - May 7 with 1279 views | syntaxerror |
| CH4 News at the moment on 19:12 - May 7 by The_Last_Baron |
I'd imagine the news room in there is solidly anti-Tory, and-Boris, anti-Brexit/pro-EU and anti-Trump. |
Of course, its Fake News innit, same as CNN and the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation.
Nothing like a good bit of Breitbart or The sun with your morning cornflakes. |  | | |
| CH4 News at the moment on 19:48 - May 7 with 1278 views | Clapham_Junction |
| CH4 News at the moment on 19:35 - May 7 by BlueBadger |
Facts have a tendency to run contrary to the bullsh1t you happily swallow from those proven and habitual liars, yes. [Post edited 7 May 2020 19:37]
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Odd how a branch of media that is legally required to be impartial is viewed as left-wing propaganda by certain types. |  | | |
| CH4 News at the moment on 19:52 - May 7 with 1269 views | BlueBadger |
| CH4 News at the moment on 19:44 - May 7 by Pecker |
Not sure anybody has said they have done a good job. Probably done the best/think they could. They could certainly have done better, with hindsight. Would labour/Lib Dems have done better? Debateable. |
They were making literally no preparations, whilst watching the unfolding clusterf*ck that was Italy going 'it's alright, we're British'.
The day SAGE issued guidelines saying 'avoid contact' Boris was boasting about shaking hands with covid patients.
Mistakes weren't made 'in hindsight' they were out front obvious. | |
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| CH4 News at the moment on 19:54 - May 7 with 1258 views | BlueBadger |
| CH4 News at the moment on 19:47 - May 7 by syntaxerror |
Of course, its Fake News innit, same as CNN and the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation.
Nothing like a good bit of Breitbart or The sun with your morning cornflakes. |
If there's one thing we've learnt over the past few years it's that reality has an alarming left-wing bias. | |
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| CH4 News at the moment on 19:55 - May 7 with 1254 views | BlueBadger |
| CH4 News at the moment on 19:48 - May 7 by Clapham_Junction |
Odd how a branch of media that is legally required to be impartial is viewed as left-wing propaganda by certain types. |
...and right-wing by others.
Almost as if they're....impartial. | |
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| CH4 News at the moment on 19:56 - May 7 with 1246 views | Keno |
| CH4 News at the moment on 19:12 - May 7 by The_Last_Baron |
I'd imagine the news room in there is solidly anti-Tory, and-Boris, anti-Brexit/pro-EU and anti-Trump. |
They sound like pretty decent normal well adjusted people to me |  |
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| CH4 News at the moment on 19:57 - May 7 with 1242 views | Pecker |
| CH4 News at the moment on 19:52 - May 7 by BlueBadger |
They were making literally no preparations, whilst watching the unfolding clusterf*ck that was Italy going 'it's alright, we're British'.
The day SAGE issued guidelines saying 'avoid contact' Boris was boasting about shaking hands with covid patients.
Mistakes weren't made 'in hindsight' they were out front obvious. |
So would Corbyn have done better? Those were the only options open to us at the time of the election. Yes, the Government could have done much better, but would Corbyn have done better? | | | |
| CH4 News at the moment on 20:00 - May 7 with 1235 views | BlueBadger |
| CH4 News at the moment on 19:57 - May 7 by Pecker |
So would Corbyn have done better? Those were the only options open to us at the time of the election. Yes, the Government could have done much better, but would Corbyn have done better? |
Choo chooo! The whataboutery train is arriving at platform one! | |
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| CH4 News at the moment on 20:02 - May 7 with 1225 views | Pecker |
| CH4 News at the moment on 20:00 - May 7 by BlueBadger |
Choo chooo! The whataboutery train is arriving at platform one! |
I will take that as a no then. | | | |
| CH4 News at the moment on 20:07 - May 7 with 1210 views | BlueBadger |
| CH4 News at the moment on 20:02 - May 7 by Pecker |
I will take that as a no then. |
It's a pointless question, designed to deflect criticism from the people who deserve it.
'But her emails', anyone? | |
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| CH4 News at the moment on 20:12 - May 7 with 1179 views | Pecker |
| CH4 News at the moment on 20:07 - May 7 by BlueBadger |
It's a pointless question, designed to deflect criticism from the people who deserve it.
'But her emails', anyone? |
I am not saying the Government shouldn't be held to account. I am saying that of the options available at the time, who would have done better. And in answer to your previous posts, hindsight is a wonderful thing. | | | |
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