| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... 22:17 - May 30 with 3974 views | tractordownsouth |
... to have an affair. Glad she's resigned her position, I quite like her as well so a shame she broke the rules.
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| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 22:24 - May 30 with 3911 views | ronnyd |
Yes, it's so nice to know that we're all in it together.  |  | | |
| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 22:41 - May 30 with 3762 views | bournemouthblue |
At least she has the guts to resign I guess |  |
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| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 22:45 - May 30 with 3717 views | ElderGrizzly |
Surely she should be stepping down as an MP, not just as a whip? |  | | |
| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 22:45 - May 30 with 3721 views | tractordownsouth |
| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 22:41 - May 30 by bournemouthblue |
At least she has the guts to resign I guess |
Well yes quite. Wonder if any Tories who said that it was the end of the matter with Cummings not resigning, will be wangling on about Duffield even after she's accepted her errors. | |
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| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 22:52 - May 30 with 3625 views | tractordownsouth |
| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 22:45 - May 30 by ElderGrizzly |
Surely she should be stepping down as an MP, not just as a whip? |
Possibly. Difference is that there are more mechanisms for her to be held to account than there are with Cummings, as she isn't directly employed by the PM and didn't have half the cabinet coming out to defend her wrongdoing.
Think there should be mechanisms for a recall petition in situations beyond the ones already in place though. | |
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| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 08:32 - May 31 with 3028 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 22:45 - May 30 by tractordownsouth |
Well yes quite. Wonder if any Tories who said that it was the end of the matter with Cummings not resigning, will be wangling on about Duffield even after she's accepted her errors. |
You know my position on Cummings. He should have been sacked.
However, RD hasn’t lost her job. She’s stepped down from a more senior position. Like for like would be Cummings staying as part of Johnson’s team but in a more junior role. [Post edited 31 May 2020 8:33]
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| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 09:31 - May 31 with 2933 views | WeWereZombies |
| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 08:32 - May 31 by GlasgowBlue |
You know my position on Cummings. He should have been sacked.
However, RD hasn’t lost her job. She’s stepped down from a more senior position. Like for like would be Cummings staying as part of Johnson’s team but in a more junior role. [Post edited 31 May 2020 8:33]
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Apples and pears, dear boy. Cummings is an employee whilst Duffield is an elected representative. The power to remove Cummings rests with his employer, I guess this is Boris Johnson, or perhaps the Conservative Party, maybe some third party in an IR35 type of arrangement? Duffield has a duty to the electorate to serve as a Member of Parliament and can only be removed by Parliamentary processes.
And I should never have watched the National Theatre Live's 'This House' on Thursday because my head is still full of examples and counter examples... [Post edited 31 May 2020 10:27]
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| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 09:38 - May 31 with 2914 views | Swansea_Blue |
What’s wrong with these muppets? |  |
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| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 09:39 - May 31 with 2911 views | tractordownsouth |
| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 08:32 - May 31 by GlasgowBlue |
You know my position on Cummings. He should have been sacked.
However, RD hasn’t lost her job. She’s stepped down from a more senior position. Like for like would be Cummings staying as part of Johnson’s team but in a more junior role. [Post edited 31 May 2020 8:33]
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She's elected and her constituents can decided whether to punish her for it at the next election, whereas there's no mechanism to remove DC. If this gets to the point where it's seriously undermining public health messaging then she should consider her position.
I've said on here before that DC could have got away without the backlash had he apologised and the government admitted fault early doors, which is why I imagine this will be less of a story. | |
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| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 09:51 - May 31 with 2877 views | WeWereZombies |
| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 09:38 - May 31 by Swansea_Blue |
What’s wrong with these muppets? |
It's been four years since their last television series? | |
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| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 10:10 - May 31 with 2837 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 09:51 - May 31 by WeWereZombies |
It's been four years since their last television series? |
Ha! Seriously though, if you’re in a position of public office wouldn’t you try to lead by example? How hard can it be to keep your pants on or avoid driving to your second/third home?
Not that I’m enjoying the lockdown fascism angle and all the politically motivated whataboutery mind you. [Post edited 31 May 2020 10:18]
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| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 10:23 - May 31 with 2802 views | pointofblue |
| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 09:39 - May 31 by tractordownsouth |
She's elected and her constituents can decided whether to punish her for it at the next election, whereas there's no mechanism to remove DC. If this gets to the point where it's seriously undermining public health messaging then she should consider her position.
I've said on here before that DC could have got away without the backlash had he apologised and the government admitted fault early doors, which is why I imagine this will be less of a story. |
Isn’t there a mechanism in place where her constituents can call for a by-election if enough of them petition for it? Again, no such provision in place for St Dominic. | |
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| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 10:25 - May 31 with 2785 views | WeWereZombies |
| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 10:10 - May 31 by Swansea_Blue |
Ha! Seriously though, if you’re in a position of public office wouldn’t you try to lead by example? How hard can it be to keep your pants on or avoid driving to your second/third home?
Not that I’m enjoying the lockdown fascism angle and all the politically motivated whataboutery mind you. [Post edited 31 May 2020 10:18]
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I thought your Muppet post included Rosie Duffield? The short item on the nine o'clock news on Radio Four this morning said she had travelled a little way (didn't say how far) to have a walk with her estranged partner to discuss something (childcare issue?) so the lover's tryst angle sounds unproven. It didn't say whether either of them was displaying any symptoms of Covid-19 (although having read an article on the BBC webpage about the 'secret spreaders' in a church in Singapore that may be irrelevant). She has definitely done the right thing by resigning the whip, wonder if Keir Starmer had to ask for that or if it was done voluntarily at the first hint of adverse publicity?
If you look at the five cases of Calderwood, Ferguson, Kinnock, Cummings and now Duffield there are circumstantial differences in all of them. But Calderwood (eventually, and it looks like Nicola Sturgeon really had to lean on her), Ferguson and Duffield have all done the right thing. Kinnock has not but his was an infringement that did not imperil anyone else. Cummings is clearly indefensible, I will again recommend a listen to Anand Menon on this week's 'The News Quiz' to fully understand the silliness of Cummings, Boris Johnson et al.
As for Kermit and Miss Piggy, I have it on good authority (NotSure and Pecker) that they are currently climbing Mount Everest with Fergal. But they are all keeping at least two metres of rope apart... [Post edited 31 May 2020 10:30]
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| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 10:29 - May 31 with 2757 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 10:25 - May 31 by WeWereZombies |
I thought your Muppet post included Rosie Duffield? The short item on the nine o'clock news on Radio Four this morning said she had travelled a little way (didn't say how far) to have a walk with her estranged partner to discuss something (childcare issue?) so the lover's tryst angle sounds unproven. It didn't say whether either of them was displaying any symptoms of Covid-19 (although having read an article on the BBC webpage about the 'secret spreaders' in a church in Singapore that may be irrelevant). She has definitely done the right thing by resigning the whip, wonder if Keir Starmer had to ask for that or if it was done voluntarily at the first hint of adverse publicity?
If you look at the five cases of Calderwood, Ferguson, Kinnock, Cummings and now Duffield there are circumstantial differences in all of them. But Calderwood (eventually, and it looks like Nicola Sturgeon really had to lean on her), Ferguson and Duffield have all done the right thing. Kinnock has not but his was an infringement that did not imperil anyone else. Cummings is clearly indefensible, I will again recommend a listen to Anand Menon on this week's 'The News Quiz' to fully understand the silliness of Cummings, Boris Johnson et al.
As for Kermit and Miss Piggy, I have it on good authority (NotSure and Pecker) that they are currently climbing Mount Everest with Fergal. But they are all keeping at least two metres of rope apart... [Post edited 31 May 2020 10:30]
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She was having it away with a married man. She met him several times, including in her own home, despite him living with his wife in another address.
He’s since binned the wife and moved in with RD. | |
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| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 10:32 - May 31 with 2750 views | WeWereZombies |
| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 10:29 - May 31 by GlasgowBlue |
She was having it away with a married man. She met him several times, including in her own home, despite him living with his wife in another address.
He’s since binned the wife and moved in with RD. |
Sorry, I didn't realise you were stalking her...
None of what you have just posted surfaced in the news report, and there is very little about this on the BBC website. Still being fact checked I guess. | |
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| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 11:12 - May 31 with 2682 views | bournemouthblue |
| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 08:32 - May 31 by GlasgowBlue |
You know my position on Cummings. He should have been sacked.
However, RD hasn’t lost her job. She’s stepped down from a more senior position. Like for like would be Cummings staying as part of Johnson’s team but in a more junior role. [Post edited 31 May 2020 8:33]
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Which could easily have happened and he wouldn't have any less influence. It would have probably nipped things in the bud.
The way the Tories are funded, I'd assume he could be sacked and paid by a third party and still have some sort of influence if unofficially. | |
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| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 12:33 - May 31 with 2609 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 10:32 - May 31 by WeWereZombies |
Sorry, I didn't realise you were stalking her...
None of what you have just posted surfaced in the news report, and there is very little about this on the BBC website. Still being fact checked I guess. |
How is reading her own account of the situation “stalking her”?
Whereas you made old speculation that it was her “estranged partner” and they were discussing childcare arrangements.
You are seriously weird. | |
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| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 15:49 - May 31 with 2495 views | Vaughan8 |
Steps down from being the the shadow cabinet, not being an MP haha
Not really much of a gesture I suppose, better than some, but lets not say she "resigned" as that sounds like she left her job, which she hasn't..... | | | |
| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 16:33 - May 31 with 2447 views | tractordownsouth |
| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 15:49 - May 31 by Vaughan8 |
Steps down from being the the shadow cabinet, not being an MP haha
Not really much of a gesture I suppose, better than some, but lets not say she "resigned" as that sounds like she left her job, which she hasn't..... |
"resigns as Labour whip" is what I said, and that's what has happened. | |
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| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 17:56 - May 31 with 2372 views | WeWereZombies |
| Rosie Duffield resigns as Labour whip for breaking lockdown... on 12:33 - May 31 by GlasgowBlue |
How is reading her own account of the situation “stalking her”?
Whereas you made old speculation that it was her “estranged partner” and they were discussing childcare arrangements.
You are seriously weird. |
If your behaviour is what you regard as normal then I am very grateful to be thought weird by you. All I was doing was repeating what I heard on the morning news, not some prurient fantasies of a bored journalist in a scandal rag. But fine, you go ahead and believe what you want. | |
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