| Johnson v Starmer 12:18 - Jun 3 with 6864 views | BlueNomad |
Another massive away win. Johnson getting ratty - shouting and jabbing his finger on his papers. Starmer just winds him up and lets him go.
Amazing to read that he is finally going to “get a grip” of No 10. What a brilliant PM he is! [Post edited 3 Jun 2020 13:54]
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| Johnson v Starmer on 12:22 - Jun 3 with 3972 views | vilanovablue |
It was an open goal given they publicly announced that Boris was going to take charge! It shows how poorly prepared he was that he couldn't answer the question. |  | | |
| Johnson v Starmer on 12:23 - Jun 3 with 3956 views | uefacup81 |
I think, based on the last couple of PMQs, Starmer now has his tactic sorted.
1) Politely and calmly ask forensic probing questions, backed up by evidence
2) Wait for Boris to lose his sh1t
3) Profit |  |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 12:24 - Jun 3 with 3949 views | BlueNomad |
| Johnson v Starmer on 12:22 - Jun 3 by vilanovablue |
It was an open goal given they publicly announced that Boris was going to take charge! It shows how poorly prepared he was that he couldn't answer the question. |
Then Blackford finished him off. Johnson couldn’t even express the slightest criticism of his “friend” Donald Trump when asked. | | | |
| Johnson v Starmer on 12:27 - Jun 3 with 3936 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
If only he showed that much passion in helping people. Absolute Moron. Starmer showing him up |  |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 12:38 - Jun 3 with 3893 views | usm |
I dont really get why there is so much political point scoring going on, and why so many seem to want the Govt to fail. We should all be trying to pull together wherever we can at present, irrespective of your political views. There are much more important issues at the moment and we really should all be pulling together, not pulling apart. |  |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 12:42 - Jun 3 with 3866 views | BlueBadger |
| Johnson v Starmer on 12:38 - Jun 3 by usm |
I dont really get why there is so much political point scoring going on, and why so many seem to want the Govt to fail. We should all be trying to pull together wherever we can at present, irrespective of your political views. There are much more important issues at the moment and we really should all be pulling together, not pulling apart. |
'Stop criticising them, just because they're incompetent' is also political point scoring.
Of the most pathetic flavour. [Post edited 3 Jun 2020 13:36]
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| Johnson v Starmer on 12:44 - Jun 3 with 3835 views | BlueNomad |
| Johnson v Starmer on 12:38 - Jun 3 by usm |
I dont really get why there is so much political point scoring going on, and why so many seem to want the Govt to fail. We should all be trying to pull together wherever we can at present, irrespective of your political views. There are much more important issues at the moment and we really should all be pulling together, not pulling apart. |
Don’t you think that might be easier if the government showed a degree of competence. Of course we all want them to do a good job but they have to give us confidence. This isn’t a question of left v right - it is a question of competence v incompetence. The latter is winning. | | | |
| Johnson v Starmer on 12:46 - Jun 3 with 3821 views | uefacup81 |
| Johnson v Starmer on 12:38 - Jun 3 by usm |
I dont really get why there is so much political point scoring going on, and why so many seem to want the Govt to fail. We should all be trying to pull together wherever we can at present, irrespective of your political views. There are much more important issues at the moment and we really should all be pulling together, not pulling apart. |
Is that the best response you have to legitimate criticism of Bojo and his pack of clowns?
You don't get a free pass just because it's an international crisis. If you directly contribute to the deaths of thousands of your own citizens, you can expect the odd dissenting voice here and there.
Saying 'corporate manslaughter is bad' isn't a political point - it's just good old fashioned British common sense. | |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 12:46 - Jun 3 with 3820 views | Meadowlark |
| Johnson v Starmer on 12:38 - Jun 3 by usm |
I dont really get why there is so much political point scoring going on, and why so many seem to want the Govt to fail. We should all be trying to pull together wherever we can at present, irrespective of your political views. There are much more important issues at the moment and we really should all be pulling together, not pulling apart. |
Straight from the Boris songbook, that one!
"Pull together wherever we can." Never seen a Tory try to do anything for anyone else that doesn't involve a profit. |  | | |
| Johnson v Starmer on 12:49 - Jun 3 with 3805 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Johnson v Starmer on 12:38 - Jun 3 by usm |
I dont really get why there is so much political point scoring going on, and why so many seem to want the Govt to fail. We should all be trying to pull together wherever we can at present, irrespective of your political views. There are much more important issues at the moment and we really should all be pulling together, not pulling apart. |
I'm not sure whether you mean here or in Parliament. The challenging in parliament is making a difference - looks like BJ gave way on giving shielding/absent MPs a proxy vote, which wasn't previously in consideration. BJ also committed to more targets on testing, but I think that question came from Hunt didn't it, so probably planned.
I think there have been a few u-turns off the back of public pressure too during this government, so that sometimes works too.
They are supposed to be working for us (ha - I know!) so they need to be challenged when they're not. |  |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 12:50 - Jun 3 with 3802 views | vilanovablue |
| Johnson v Starmer on 12:44 - Jun 3 by BlueNomad |
Don’t you think that might be easier if the government showed a degree of competence. Of course we all want them to do a good job but they have to give us confidence. This isn’t a question of left v right - it is a question of competence v incompetence. The latter is winning. |
This is the critical point, it's not wrong to hold the government to account if they are doing a bad job. By any measure at all if the party in power are doing a bad job and this should be challenged regardless of the circumstances. | | | |
| Johnson v Starmer on 12:56 - Jun 3 with 3781 views | BlueBadger |
| Johnson v Starmer on 12:50 - Jun 3 by vilanovablue |
This is the critical point, it's not wrong to hold the government to account if they are doing a bad job. By any measure at all if the party in power are doing a bad job and this should be challenged regardless of the circumstances. |
'Stop moaning, they're doing their best' is what you say when under 10's football team is getting stuffed 12-0, not when a government has just presided over the highest death toll in Europe. [Post edited 3 Jun 2020 13:11]
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| Johnson v Starmer on 13:00 - Jun 3 with 3760 views | Mullet |
| Johnson v Starmer on 12:38 - Jun 3 by usm |
I dont really get why there is so much political point scoring going on, and why so many seem to want the Govt to fail. We should all be trying to pull together wherever we can at present, irrespective of your political views. There are much more important issues at the moment and we really should all be pulling together, not pulling apart. |
I guess millions of us who have taken every precaution, sacrificed our freedoms and way of life, forgone so much to support what the government has asked of us find it a bit bloody rich when weeks later it's shown they are hypocrites, liars, in the thrall of elitist scumbags and keep on killing people whilst telling us it's not their fault.
That's before the thousands of families who have lost people, had to bury them in the most inhumane conditions for the greater good whilst Johnson smugly bragged about ignoring social distancing before getting himself laid up with COVID for weeks whilst Raab pretended to run things, not knowing Cummings was swanning about doing as he pleased. |  |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 13:01 - Jun 3 with 3752 views | vapour_trail |
| Johnson v Starmer on 12:38 - Jun 3 by usm |
I dont really get why there is so much political point scoring going on, and why so many seem to want the Govt to fail. We should all be trying to pull together wherever we can at present, irrespective of your political views. There are much more important issues at the moment and we really should all be pulling together, not pulling apart. |
What does that even mean, practically? It’s just meaningless rhetoric. There’s a lot of it about.
The whole PMQ ding dong is pretty irrelevant in any case. Vast majority of the country don’t engage with it on any level. |  |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 13:08 - Jun 3 with 3712 views | Herbivore |
| Johnson v Starmer on 13:01 - Jun 3 by vapour_trail |
What does that even mean, practically? It’s just meaningless rhetoric. There’s a lot of it about.
The whole PMQ ding dong is pretty irrelevant in any case. Vast majority of the country don’t engage with it on any level. |
It basically means don't criticise my team, they may be useless and I can offer no defence of them so I'm just going to suggest that it's crass to criticise them at the current time. |  |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 13:08 - Jun 3 with 3717 views | gordon |
| Johnson v Starmer on 12:38 - Jun 3 by usm |
I dont really get why there is so much political point scoring going on, and why so many seem to want the Govt to fail. We should all be trying to pull together wherever we can at present, irrespective of your political views. There are much more important issues at the moment and we really should all be pulling together, not pulling apart. |
If political point scoring means what I understand it to mean, isn't it precisely what this Government have spent this whole sodding crisis doing, and partly why we're in such a mess? |  | | |
| Johnson v Starmer on 13:12 - Jun 3 with 3692 views | BlueBadger |
| Johnson v Starmer on 12:59 - Jun 3 by uefacup81 |
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I give it 15 minutes before he comes back with 'lol got you all I wiz trolling'. | |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 13:14 - Jun 3 with 3677 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Johnson v Starmer on 13:08 - Jun 3 by Herbivore |
It basically means don't criticise my team, they may be useless and I can offer no defence of them so I'm just going to suggest that it's crass to criticise them at the current time. |
Now is not the time to talk about COVID-19 control. |  | | |
| Johnson v Starmer on 13:14 - Jun 3 with 3679 views | factual_blue |
| Johnson v Starmer on 13:08 - Jun 3 by Herbivore |
It basically means don't criticise my team, they may be useless and I can offer no defence of them so I'm just going to suggest that it's crass to criticise them at the current time. |
And 'I know I picked them, but I picked people who are even more useless than me, so I can kid myself I look good. I mean, matt hancock. Really?' |  |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 13:22 - Jun 3 with 3634 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Johnson v Starmer on 13:14 - Jun 3 by factual_blue |
And 'I know I picked them, but I picked people who are even more useless than me, so I can kid myself I look good. I mean, matt hancock. Really?' |
Matt Hancock makes Jeremy Hunt appear competent. |  |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 13:24 - Jun 3 with 3627 views | factual_blue |
| Johnson v Starmer on 13:22 - Jun 3 by Pinewoodblue |
Matt Hancock makes Jeremy Hunt appear competent. |
Our pet cat Mitzi would do a better job than hancock.
And Mitzi has been dead for about eight years. | |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 13:28 - Jun 3 with 3602 views | factual_blue |
| Johnson v Starmer on 12:56 - Jun 3 by BlueBadger |
'Stop moaning, they're doing their best' is what you say when under 10's football team is getting stuffed 12-0, not when a government has just presided over the highest death toll in Europe. [Post edited 3 Jun 2020 13:11]
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And 'daddy, who's that creepy man over there who looks like the honey monster? He's scaring me' is what the under 10's football team say when boris turns up. | |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 13:29 - Jun 3 with 3599 views | BlueBadger |
| Johnson v Starmer on 13:22 - Jun 3 by Pinewoodblue |
Matt Hancock makes Jeremy Hunt appear competent. |
One of my senior colleagues who's had dealing with both can verify this. Their actual words were 'makes his predecessor look like an intellectual titan'. | |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 13:31 - Jun 3 with 3585 views | Plums |
| Johnson v Starmer on 12:38 - Jun 3 by usm |
I dont really get why there is so much political point scoring going on, and why so many seem to want the Govt to fail. We should all be trying to pull together wherever we can at present, irrespective of your political views. There are much more important issues at the moment and we really should all be pulling together, not pulling apart. |
If only the government were pulling with the rest of us... |  |
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