| Johnson v Starmer 12:18 - Jun 3 with 6863 views | BlueNomad |
Another massive away win. Johnson getting ratty - shouting and jabbing his finger on his papers. Starmer just winds him up and lets him go.
Amazing to read that he is finally going to “get a grip” of No 10. What a brilliant PM he is! [Post edited 3 Jun 2020 13:54]
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| Johnson v Starmer on 13:31 - Jun 3 with 2245 views | BlueBadger |
| Johnson v Starmer on 13:28 - Jun 3 by factual_blue |
And 'daddy, who's that creepy man over there who looks like the honey monster? He's scaring me' is what the under 10's football team say when boris turns up. |
There's no way he'd turn up to anything involving twenty+ kids being present as there's a good chance that one of them might belong to him. [Post edited 3 Jun 2020 13:34]
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| Johnson v Starmer on 13:33 - Jun 3 with 2241 views | BlueBadger |
| Johnson v Starmer on 13:31 - Jun 3 by Plums |
If only the government were pulling with the rest of us... |
They've been pulling something through all this... | |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 13:53 - Jun 3 with 2210 views | BlueNomad |
DaveU - I see you have downvoted my OP and second comment re Blackford. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. Would you care to say something on the matter as you clearly disagree with my account of PMQs? | | | |
| Johnson v Starmer on 13:53 - Jun 3 with 2207 views | factual_blue |
| Johnson v Starmer on 13:31 - Jun 3 by BlueBadger |
There's no way he'd turn up to anything involving twenty+ kids being present as there's a good chance that one of them might belong to him. [Post edited 3 Jun 2020 13:34]
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| Johnson v Starmer on 13:56 - Jun 3 with 2200 views | BlueBadger |
| Johnson v Starmer on 13:53 - Jun 3 by BlueNomad |
DaveU - I see you have downvoted my OP and second comment re Blackford. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. Would you care to say something on the matter as you clearly disagree with my account of PMQs? |
He's done to anything vaguely critical of Boris. | |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 14:00 - Jun 3 with 2192 views | BlueBadger |
| Johnson v Starmer on 13:53 - Jun 3 by factual_blue |
Is daveU a junior minister, or part of the Downing Street communications team? |
A quick flick through Dave's profile shows no forum posts, news comments, match reports or anything. I reckon he's a sock puppet for someone even more cowardly than our usual wing nuts. | |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 14:01 - Jun 3 with 2188 views | mrshallisfit |
| Johnson v Starmer on 12:38 - Jun 3 by usm |
I dont really get why there is so much political point scoring going on, and why so many seem to want the Govt to fail. We should all be trying to pull together wherever we can at present, irrespective of your political views. There are much more important issues at the moment and we really should all be pulling together, not pulling apart. |
Rather than wanting the government to fail I would much prefer a government that at every turn was on top of the situation. A government that didn't have to react frantically 10 or so days too late. That would be nice wouldn't it. |  | | |
| Johnson v Starmer on 14:18 - Jun 3 with 2163 views | BlueNomad |
| Johnson v Starmer on 14:01 - Jun 3 by mrshallisfit |
Rather than wanting the government to fail I would much prefer a government that at every turn was on top of the situation. A government that didn't have to react frantically 10 or so days too late. That would be nice wouldn't it. |
The bottom line is that at a time like this I would say, as a Labour voter, that I would rather see Tory competence than Labour incompetence. At the moment we have the worst of both bits - Tory incompetence. | | | |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 14:24 - Jun 3 with 2160 views | clive_baker |
| Johnson v Starmer on 12:38 - Jun 3 by usm |
I dont really get why there is so much political point scoring going on, and why so many seem to want the Govt to fail. We should all be trying to pull together wherever we can at present, irrespective of your political views. There are much more important issues at the moment and we really should all be pulling together, not pulling apart. |
I don't think anyone 'wants' the government to fail. I'm passionate about people and about the UK, I would love for nothing more than the government to be expertly leading us through this crisis. I think people are just pointing out that, well, they're not doing that. Quite the opposite. A level of challenge is healthy, otherwise we're destined for misrule. |  |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 14:27 - Jun 3 with 2155 views | sparks |
| Johnson v Starmer on 14:24 - Jun 3 by clive_baker |
I don't think anyone 'wants' the government to fail. I'm passionate about people and about the UK, I would love for nothing more than the government to be expertly leading us through this crisis. I think people are just pointing out that, well, they're not doing that. Quite the opposite. A level of challenge is healthy, otherwise we're destined for misrule. |
I am deeply concerned that we are walking into accepting a manner of government akin to the Trump regime.
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| Johnson v Starmer on 14:29 - Jun 3 with 2143 views | BlueBadger |
| Johnson v Starmer on 14:27 - Jun 3 by sparks |
I am deeply concerned that we are walking into accepting a manner of government akin to the Trump regime.
That must not happen. |
Too late. The 2016 referendum ensured the ultimate triumph of fact-free politics. | |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 14:31 - Jun 3 with 2137 views | mrshallisfit |
| Johnson v Starmer on 14:27 - Jun 3 by sparks |
I am deeply concerned that we are walking into accepting a manner of government akin to the Trump regime.
That must not happen. |
It is worrying how we are copying the US's style. Doubling down aggressively when they are clearly in the wrong. | | | |
| Johnson v Starmer on 14:33 - Jun 3 with 2131 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Johnson v Starmer on 14:27 - Jun 3 by sparks |
I am deeply concerned that we are walking into accepting a manner of government akin to the Trump regime.
That must not happen. |
Didn't you vote for this lot? |  |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 14:36 - Jun 3 with 2131 views | BlueBadger |
| Johnson v Starmer on 14:33 - Jun 3 by BrixtonBlue |
Didn't you vote for this lot? |
Phil! Warm up your editing fingers... | |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 14:44 - Jun 3 with 2091 views | Darth_Koont |
| Johnson v Starmer on 14:29 - Jun 3 by BlueBadger |
Too late. The 2016 referendum ensured the ultimate triumph of fact-free politics. |
Gmpf. You're telling me ... |  |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 14:49 - Jun 3 with 2080 views | sparks |
| Johnson v Starmer on 14:33 - Jun 3 by BrixtonBlue |
Didn't you vote for this lot? |
Nope. | |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 14:53 - Jun 3 with 2068 views | clive_baker |
| Johnson v Starmer on 14:49 - Jun 3 by sparks |
Nope. |
Even if you had have done, more props if you've now come to this realisation IMO.
Valid question marks exist around what anyone saw in this party at the back end of 2019 that warranted their vote, but I'm more than happy to celebrate anyone who has the ability to see them for what they're worth, even if its taken this. Too many people would rather double down for fear of raising their head above the parapet and admitting any regret, and who can blame them given how people approach a debate now? Accusational and antagonistic tones simply causes further divide and encourages all the wrong behaviours IMO.
As a wise man once said, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. | |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 14:54 - Jun 3 with 2061 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Johnson v Starmer on 14:49 - Jun 3 by sparks |
Nope. |
Fair enough. You seemed to defend them a lot in the lead up to the election, so it surprises me you didn't vote for them in the end. | |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 14:59 - Jun 3 with 2047 views | sparks |
| Johnson v Starmer on 14:54 - Jun 3 by BrixtonBlue |
Fair enough. You seemed to defend them a lot in the lead up to the election, so it surprises me you didn't vote for them in the end. |
Really? I dont recall doing anything of the sort.
I seem to recall being appalled at the fact that Boris had sought a deal on Brexit which involved may stepping down- which made it absolutely inescapable that politcs and personal progress was more important than the principles of the decision.
For what its worth I didnt vote for the previous government either.
Edited to add that i was really quite outspoken on here about Boris conduct... [Post edited 3 Jun 2020 16:21]
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| Johnson v Starmer on 15:25 - Jun 3 with 2002 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Johnson v Starmer on 14:59 - Jun 3 by sparks |
Really? I dont recall doing anything of the sort.
I seem to recall being appalled at the fact that Boris had sought a deal on Brexit which involved may stepping down- which made it absolutely inescapable that politcs and personal progress was more important than the principles of the decision.
For what its worth I didnt vote for the previous government either.
Edited to add that i was really quite outspoken on here about Boris conduct... [Post edited 3 Jun 2020 16:21]
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I've been under the impression for several years that you're a Tory. Not sure I'm the only one to think it. | |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 16:03 - Jun 3 with 1969 views | Herbivore |
| Johnson v Starmer on 15:25 - Jun 3 by BrixtonBlue |
I've been under the impression for several years that you're a Tory. Not sure I'm the only one to think it. |
I think Sparks, along with a few others, is a Tory at heart and it would ordinarily be his natural home. However, the current Tory party (indeed the one of the past few years) is so utterly morally bankrupt and devoid of talent that he cannot support it in its current form. It mirrors how many Labour supporters ended up feeling about Corbyn's Labour. [Post edited 3 Jun 2020 16:04]
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| Johnson v Starmer on 16:21 - Jun 3 with 1937 views | sparks |
| Johnson v Starmer on 15:25 - Jun 3 by BrixtonBlue |
I've been under the impression for several years that you're a Tory. Not sure I'm the only one to think it. |
I try to approach everything on its merits. Rationally and reserving position when there is not enough information. Thats not an approach which sits well with some people's emotive reactionary (and illogical) approach to an issue. | |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 17:11 - Jun 3 with 1893 views | clive_baker |
| Johnson v Starmer on 16:21 - Jun 3 by sparks |
I try to approach everything on its merits. Rationally and reserving position when there is not enough information. Thats not an approach which sits well with some people's emotive reactionary (and illogical) approach to an issue. |
I think the world would be a better and fairer place if everyone took that approach.
It really winds me up how people attach themselves to a party with an outrageous degree of blind loyalty. "I vote X because my family always have done". You're a berk then. Do some research, understand the manifestos, ask yourself what sort of a society you want for this country and who is most credible in delivering that and go out and vote for it. Don't be afraid to vote for a different party to one you've voted for previously if you think the landscape has changed, or if you think the needs of the country have changed in that time. That's perfectly acceptable. Admirable, in fact. People need to view things a bit more objectively IMO. I've voted Labour previously, but I'm happy to call Corbyn out as someone who, in my opinion, took it from a party capable of governing the country, to little more than a protest movement. Hopefully under Starmer they can once again be a credible option at the ballot box.
In the same respect I know a number of people who voted Tory in December but will happily tell it how it is right now in that there are serious question marks over the handling of this crisis. Bl00dy hard thing to have to deal with, admittedly, but some serious question marks and reasons to believe it's not be handled as well as it could and should have been. It's not a reflection on them.
It's not football, there's no need for party loyalty if it's unwarranted. | |
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| Johnson v Starmer on 17:16 - Jun 3 with 1883 views | mrshallisfit |
| Johnson v Starmer on 16:21 - Jun 3 by sparks |
I try to approach everything on its merits. Rationally and reserving position when there is not enough information. Thats not an approach which sits well with some people's emotive reactionary (and illogical) approach to an issue. |
You are Spock from Star Trek and I claim my £5. | | | |
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