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Why is Shambert all over the media? 12:30 - Jun 10 with 4730 viewsBluefish

is it him trying to add strength to the court case?

Is it the club trying to see if the PR master can spin his way out of this?

Do the club even realise that the fans have finally turned having spent games chanting his name as recently as the start of the year? Perhaps Marcus still believes that the fans would rather be in league 1 with PRP than the championship with someone else?

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Fishface v Machface..... on 15:13 - Jun 10 with 1317 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

Fishface v Machface..... on 14:46 - Jun 10 by Mach_foreignBlue

Your point? Football forum is the place to voice the opinions.

You forgot to remind me about top half finishes in the Championship.


To be honest I’ve forgotten what they are seeing as we are now a million miles away from them

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Fishface v Machface..... on 15:40 - Jun 10 with 1295 viewsBlueBadger

Fishface v Machface..... on 14:47 - Jun 10 by Herbivore

Chambers and Skuse have played most of their career in the second tier. They're both fading now and will hopefully be phased over into non-playing roles over the next year or two, but it's still a huge stretch to argue they are more hopeless than Edwards, who has had one season playing above the third tier and looked out of his depth.


Yes, but you've forgotten who signed one of them and made the other skipper here.

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Fishface v Machface..... on 15:42 - Jun 10 with 1288 viewsHerbivore

Fishface v Machface..... on 15:40 - Jun 10 by BlueBadger

Yes, but you've forgotten who signed one of them and made the other skipper here.


Well quite. It's very transparent but Mach will swear blind it's nothing to do with his hatred of Mick.

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Fishface v Machface..... on 15:48 - Jun 10 with 1282 viewsMach_foreignBlue

Fishface v Machface..... on 15:06 - Jun 10 by Herbivore

What do you make of Flynn Downes out of interest? We finished in the top half of the table 4 years out of 5 with Skuse and Chambers as regular. Then Downes comes into the side regularly and we finish bottom and then 11th in League 1. If we're blaming individual players the evidence seems to back up that Flynn, along with the likes of Nolan, Jackson, Edwards etc. are the problem here rather than two players who were mainstays in a top half Championship side.

Or maybe blaming individual players for a collective failure is a bit silly?


We had finished in the top half 4 out of 5 with them in the team. So what? That what happened in the last two seasons counts too. I'm not a fan of their happy retirement time with us when they pick up their wages for their PR stuff and waffling same old crap in the interviews. I'm an Ipswich fan and want every single player to play for the shirt.

Moreover we had NEVER beaten Norwich with them two in the team.

I had also been told last year that their experience would be vital for us in League One. We have finished 11th. Tell me their contribution has been invaluable then last season.

Given your logic and praising both of them for what happened in the past our last five managers can't be perceived as badly as they are can they? They all had won promotions elsewhere.

As for Downes that level of football last season was too big for him but the question where were the senior players to help him and lower league signings out? They had downed the tools and that includes more than 'certain' two.
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Fishface v Machface..... on 15:53 - Jun 10 with 1267 viewsMach_foreignBlue

Fishface v Machface..... on 15:40 - Jun 10 by BlueBadger

Yes, but you've forgotten who signed one of them and made the other skipper here.


But when it comes to Judge and Nsiala it's absolutely fine to slagg them off innit?
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Fishface v Machface..... on 15:59 - Jun 10 with 1245 viewsHerbivore

Fishface v Machface..... on 15:48 - Jun 10 by Mach_foreignBlue

We had finished in the top half 4 out of 5 with them in the team. So what? That what happened in the last two seasons counts too. I'm not a fan of their happy retirement time with us when they pick up their wages for their PR stuff and waffling same old crap in the interviews. I'm an Ipswich fan and want every single player to play for the shirt.

Moreover we had NEVER beaten Norwich with them two in the team.

I had also been told last year that their experience would be vital for us in League One. We have finished 11th. Tell me their contribution has been invaluable then last season.

Given your logic and praising both of them for what happened in the past our last five managers can't be perceived as badly as they are can they? They all had won promotions elsewhere.

As for Downes that level of football last season was too big for him but the question where were the senior players to help him and lower league signings out? They had downed the tools and that includes more than 'certain' two.


Can you point me to where Bart specifically says that Chambers and Skuse had downed tools? I think you've heard what you want to hear on that one.

I'm not sure where to start with the rest of your post to be honest as it's all over the place. I'll just say that I judge Skuse and Chambers for their contribution to us over a long period at the club and they've been very good servants for the club.

We all know why you hate them but I'm not sure you've joined the dots yourself yet.

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Fishface v Machface..... on 16:00 - Jun 10 with 1242 viewsHerbivore

Fishface v Machface..... on 15:53 - Jun 10 by Mach_foreignBlue

But when it comes to Judge and Nsiala it's absolutely fine to slagg them off innit?


Well yeah, they've both only ever played crap for us, aside from the odd game.

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Fishface v Machface..... on 16:25 - Jun 10 with 1182 viewsMach_foreignBlue

Fishface v Machface..... on 16:00 - Jun 10 by Herbivore

Well yeah, they've both only ever played crap for us, aside from the odd game.


Same applies to Skuse and Chambers, both utterly hopeless but they seem to be completely free of criticism in your and others' eyes.
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Fishface v Machface..... on 16:28 - Jun 10 with 1172 viewsHerbivore

Fishface v Machface..... on 16:25 - Jun 10 by Mach_foreignBlue

Same applies to Skuse and Chambers, both utterly hopeless but they seem to be completely free of criticism in your and others' eyes.


You honestly think Skuse and Chambers over their time here have been hopeless aside from the odd game?

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Fishface v Machface..... on 16:32 - Jun 10 with 1167 viewsBluefish

Fishface v Machface..... on 16:28 - Jun 10 by Herbivore

You honestly think Skuse and Chambers over their time here have been hopeless aside from the odd game?


No, he just has no way of entering a sensible discussion without losing the plot
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Fishface v Machface..... on 16:50 - Jun 10 with 1152 viewsMach_foreignBlue

Fishface v Machface..... on 15:59 - Jun 10 by Herbivore

Can you point me to where Bart specifically says that Chambers and Skuse had downed tools? I think you've heard what you want to hear on that one.

I'm not sure where to start with the rest of your post to be honest as it's all over the place. I'll just say that I judge Skuse and Chambers for their contribution to us over a long period at the club and they've been very good servants for the club.

We all know why you hate them but I'm not sure you've joined the dots yourself yet.


Someone else has told you yesterday: stop putting words in the other members' mouth. Pay attention to what is being said and then start talking. I don't hate them so you have brought it out of your arse just because your arguments are failing. I just claim they are both hopeless and cost us points and goals on numerous occasions.

I have 'only' said that they are hopeless parasites happy to pick up their wages and we don't benefit anything at all from their presence on the pitch. Different story off it though.

Bart hadn't mentioned surnames. He had said the team downed the tools. Them two were probably the most senior players in the team. Again though. READ CAREFULLY what I posted before. I haven't been pining the blame on them solely, I said they had downed the tools just like entire team. Again, ENTIRE TEAM before you will start twisting my words.

It's simple. You are one of the mccarthy fans and any criticism of 'his' players isn't acceptable but that's you and others.

I haven't even mentioned Knudsen for his attitude and performances last season. When I do it I'll be told I do it because he's said 'a few nice things about mccarthy'.

Further waffling about that is pointless. You rate certain players whereas I don't and we aren't going to convince each other.

This below is the bit from the Sunderland game that won't please you and mccarthys crew as there is a bit about the skipper. It's not me on these videos but these guys are spot on about Chambers and Lambert. Watch this from 20:05



A few words of truth about the skipper, leader, captain fantastic but as these guys say: NO-ONE questions him !
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Fishface v Machface..... on 16:54 - Jun 10 with 1139 viewsMach_foreignBlue

Fishface v Machface..... on 16:32 - Jun 10 by Bluefish

No, he just has no way of entering a sensible discussion without losing the plot
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You and sensible discussion then
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Fishface v Machface..... on 16:55 - Jun 10 with 1139 viewsHerbivore

Fishface v Machface..... on 16:50 - Jun 10 by Mach_foreignBlue

Someone else has told you yesterday: stop putting words in the other members' mouth. Pay attention to what is being said and then start talking. I don't hate them so you have brought it out of your arse just because your arguments are failing. I just claim they are both hopeless and cost us points and goals on numerous occasions.

I have 'only' said that they are hopeless parasites happy to pick up their wages and we don't benefit anything at all from their presence on the pitch. Different story off it though.

Bart hadn't mentioned surnames. He had said the team downed the tools. Them two were probably the most senior players in the team. Again though. READ CAREFULLY what I posted before. I haven't been pining the blame on them solely, I said they had downed the tools just like entire team. Again, ENTIRE TEAM before you will start twisting my words.

It's simple. You are one of the mccarthy fans and any criticism of 'his' players isn't acceptable but that's you and others.

I haven't even mentioned Knudsen for his attitude and performances last season. When I do it I'll be told I do it because he's said 'a few nice things about mccarthy'.

Further waffling about that is pointless. You rate certain players whereas I don't and we aren't going to convince each other.

This below is the bit from the Sunderland game that won't please you and mccarthys crew as there is a bit about the skipper. It's not me on these videos but these guys are spot on about Chambers and Lambert. Watch this from 20:05



A few words of truth about the skipper, leader, captain fantastic but as these guys say: NO-ONE questions him !
[Post edited 10 Jun 2020 16:51]


So triggered. I genuinely don't know where to begin with that mess. Let's just say I disagree with pretty much everything you've said and find it staggering that you think I'm the one that's biased in this debate.

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Fishface v Machface..... on 16:56 - Jun 10 with 1131 viewsMach_foreignBlue

Fishface v Machface..... on 16:28 - Jun 10 by Herbivore

You honestly think Skuse and Chambers over their time here have been hopeless aside from the odd game?


They had contributed to the 6th and 7th place finishes but since 2017/18 they have been largely average, poor or hopeless aside from the odd game.
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Fishface v Machface..... on 16:57 - Jun 10 with 1128 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

Fishface v Machface..... on 16:50 - Jun 10 by Mach_foreignBlue

Someone else has told you yesterday: stop putting words in the other members' mouth. Pay attention to what is being said and then start talking. I don't hate them so you have brought it out of your arse just because your arguments are failing. I just claim they are both hopeless and cost us points and goals on numerous occasions.

I have 'only' said that they are hopeless parasites happy to pick up their wages and we don't benefit anything at all from their presence on the pitch. Different story off it though.

Bart hadn't mentioned surnames. He had said the team downed the tools. Them two were probably the most senior players in the team. Again though. READ CAREFULLY what I posted before. I haven't been pining the blame on them solely, I said they had downed the tools just like entire team. Again, ENTIRE TEAM before you will start twisting my words.

It's simple. You are one of the mccarthy fans and any criticism of 'his' players isn't acceptable but that's you and others.

I haven't even mentioned Knudsen for his attitude and performances last season. When I do it I'll be told I do it because he's said 'a few nice things about mccarthy'.

Further waffling about that is pointless. You rate certain players whereas I don't and we aren't going to convince each other.

This below is the bit from the Sunderland game that won't please you and mccarthys crew as there is a bit about the skipper. It's not me on these videos but these guys are spot on about Chambers and Lambert. Watch this from 20:05



A few words of truth about the skipper, leader, captain fantastic but as these guys say: NO-ONE questions him !
[Post edited 10 Jun 2020 16:51]


Is that the same Knudsen who since leaving us has featured regularly in European competition for Malmo, whilst we have solidified ourselves in mid table in the third division?

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Fishface v Machface..... on 16:57 - Jun 10 with 1125 viewsHerbivore

Fishface v Machface..... on 16:56 - Jun 10 by Mach_foreignBlue

They had contributed to the 6th and 7th place finishes but since 2017/18 they have been largely average, poor or hopeless aside from the odd game.


I don't agree.

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Fishface v Machface..... on 17:01 - Jun 10 with 1119 viewsMach_foreignBlue

Fishface v Machface..... on 16:55 - Jun 10 by Herbivore

So triggered. I genuinely don't know where to begin with that mess. Let's just say I disagree with pretty much everything you've said and find it staggering that you think I'm the one that's biased in this debate.


Dear me! i have got to agree with you. This is what I have just said as further talking about that is pointless.
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Fishface v Machface..... on 17:01 - Jun 10 with 1116 viewsMach_foreignBlue

Fishface v Machface..... on 16:57 - Jun 10 by Herbivore

I don't agree.


Fine. Spot on. it's all about opinions.
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Fishface v Machface..... on 17:04 - Jun 10 with 1107 viewsHerbivore

Fishface v Machface..... on 17:01 - Jun 10 by Mach_foreignBlue

Dear me! i have got to agree with you. This is what I have just said as further talking about that is pointless.


Fair dos. Enjoy your evening.

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Fishface v Machface..... on 17:05 - Jun 10 with 1105 viewsMach_foreignBlue

Fishface v Machface..... on 16:57 - Jun 10 by C_HealyIsAPleasure

Is that the same Knudsen who since leaving us has featured regularly in European competition for Malmo, whilst we have solidified ourselves in mid table in the third division?


Yes the same Knudsen and I'm talking about his attitude and awful performances since that press conference where he said a few words.

His time with Malmo has nothing to do with us being in the middle of 3rd division so I don't get what you mention Malmo.
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Fishface v Machface..... on 17:06 - Jun 10 with 1103 viewsMach_foreignBlue

Fishface v Machface..... on 17:04 - Jun 10 by Herbivore

Fair dos. Enjoy your evening.


Likewise
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Fishface v Machface..... on 17:12 - Jun 10 with 1080 viewsBrixtonBlue

Fishface v Machface..... on 16:50 - Jun 10 by Mach_foreignBlue

Someone else has told you yesterday: stop putting words in the other members' mouth. Pay attention to what is being said and then start talking. I don't hate them so you have brought it out of your arse just because your arguments are failing. I just claim they are both hopeless and cost us points and goals on numerous occasions.

I have 'only' said that they are hopeless parasites happy to pick up their wages and we don't benefit anything at all from their presence on the pitch. Different story off it though.

Bart hadn't mentioned surnames. He had said the team downed the tools. Them two were probably the most senior players in the team. Again though. READ CAREFULLY what I posted before. I haven't been pining the blame on them solely, I said they had downed the tools just like entire team. Again, ENTIRE TEAM before you will start twisting my words.

It's simple. You are one of the mccarthy fans and any criticism of 'his' players isn't acceptable but that's you and others.

I haven't even mentioned Knudsen for his attitude and performances last season. When I do it I'll be told I do it because he's said 'a few nice things about mccarthy'.

Further waffling about that is pointless. You rate certain players whereas I don't and we aren't going to convince each other.

This below is the bit from the Sunderland game that won't please you and mccarthys crew as there is a bit about the skipper. It's not me on these videos but these guys are spot on about Chambers and Lambert. Watch this from 20:05



A few words of truth about the skipper, leader, captain fantastic but as these guys say: NO-ONE questions him !
[Post edited 10 Jun 2020 16:51]


Like Herbi, there's so much wrong here one wouldn't know where to start.

I'll just say one thing though - the idea that no-one questions Chambers suggests you've never read TWTD before.

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Fishface v Machface..... on 17:36 - Jun 10 with 1054 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

Fishface v Machface..... on 17:05 - Jun 10 by Mach_foreignBlue

Yes the same Knudsen and I'm talking about his attitude and awful performances since that press conference where he said a few words.

His time with Malmo has nothing to do with us being in the middle of 3rd division so I don't get what you mention Malmo.


Of course it’s relevant, him going on to be a regular in Europe whilst we have sunk to the kind of depths not seen in decades rather suggests he may not have been the problem...well it does unless you view everything through a prism of extreme hatred to a certain M.McCarthy and any of the players that he signed and/or featured regularly under him of course

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Fishface v Machface..... on 19:35 - Jun 10 with 1009 viewsitfcjoe

Fishface v Machface..... on 16:50 - Jun 10 by Mach_foreignBlue

Someone else has told you yesterday: stop putting words in the other members' mouth. Pay attention to what is being said and then start talking. I don't hate them so you have brought it out of your arse just because your arguments are failing. I just claim they are both hopeless and cost us points and goals on numerous occasions.

I have 'only' said that they are hopeless parasites happy to pick up their wages and we don't benefit anything at all from their presence on the pitch. Different story off it though.

Bart hadn't mentioned surnames. He had said the team downed the tools. Them two were probably the most senior players in the team. Again though. READ CAREFULLY what I posted before. I haven't been pining the blame on them solely, I said they had downed the tools just like entire team. Again, ENTIRE TEAM before you will start twisting my words.

It's simple. You are one of the mccarthy fans and any criticism of 'his' players isn't acceptable but that's you and others.

I haven't even mentioned Knudsen for his attitude and performances last season. When I do it I'll be told I do it because he's said 'a few nice things about mccarthy'.

Further waffling about that is pointless. You rate certain players whereas I don't and we aren't going to convince each other.

This below is the bit from the Sunderland game that won't please you and mccarthys crew as there is a bit about the skipper. It's not me on these videos but these guys are spot on about Chambers and Lambert. Watch this from 20:05



A few words of truth about the skipper, leader, captain fantastic but as these guys say: NO-ONE questions him !
[Post edited 10 Jun 2020 16:51]


"I have 'only' said that they are hopeless parasites happy to pick up their wages and we don't benefit anything at all from their presence on the pitch."

Wow.

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Fishface v Machface..... on 19:47 - Jun 10 with 983 viewsBrixtonBlue

Fishface v Machface..... on 19:35 - Jun 10 by itfcjoe

"I have 'only' said that they are hopeless parasites happy to pick up their wages and we don't benefit anything at all from their presence on the pitch."

Wow.


I wonder if Mach would call Chambers a "hopeless parasite" to his face.

I bet Bloots will downarrow this.
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