| What can we expect now for Downes and Woolfenden? 21:04 - Jun 11 with 1593 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
Given the economic climate, and the financial implications of Covid on a team like ourselves, it ever likely they'll be gone, in fact I think they'll be pushed in the shop window.
However, we will get a snip of what we should, but what can we expect? |  |
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| What can we expect now for Downes and Woolfenden? on 23:52 - Jun 11 with 1436 views | judespiveyg |
You say that, but a lot of clubs, Championship clubs in particular, are not going to be looking to add players. They'll be losing vast sums of cash. Reading lost something like 30 million in 18/19, imagine what that will be with no crowds. The Championship will not have many teams giving seven figure sums.
Maybe a Prem club makes a punt on Downes or Woolfenden but there's no guarentee it would be an offer worth taking. In all honesty, I wouldn't be shocked to see both here next season.
And if we do lose them, free agents will accept far smaller wages just to have a job, and a lot of Championship contracts won't be renewed, so replacements for Downes and Wolf will be cheaper. Look at Skuse, in normal circumstances he'd have never taken such a pay cut because he could've made more at another club. |  |
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| What can we expect now for Downes and Woolfenden? on 07:42 - Jun 12 with 1291 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| What can we expect now for Downes and Woolfenden? on 23:52 - Jun 11 by judespiveyg |
You say that, but a lot of clubs, Championship clubs in particular, are not going to be looking to add players. They'll be losing vast sums of cash. Reading lost something like 30 million in 18/19, imagine what that will be with no crowds. The Championship will not have many teams giving seven figure sums.
Maybe a Prem club makes a punt on Downes or Woolfenden but there's no guarentee it would be an offer worth taking. In all honesty, I wouldn't be shocked to see both here next season.
And if we do lose them, free agents will accept far smaller wages just to have a job, and a lot of Championship contracts won't be renewed, so replacements for Downes and Wolf will be cheaper. Look at Skuse, in normal circumstances he'd have never taken such a pay cut because he could've made more at another club. |
Clubs will be stricken for cash, hence why they will be searching in league 1, and you won’t find much better than Downes and Woolfenden, and Evans will now be desperate to cash in.
It will be normal service resumed then, sell our better players, replace with barrel scraping free agents.
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| What can we expect now for Downes and Woolfenden? on 08:23 - Jun 12 with 1240 views | SenatorBlue |
| What can we expect now for Downes and Woolfenden? on 07:42 - Jun 12 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
Clubs will be stricken for cash, hence why they will be searching in league 1, and you won’t find much better than Downes and Woolfenden, and Evans will now be desperate to cash in.
It will be normal service resumed then, sell our better players, replace with barrel scraping free agents.
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Above all else, this is the one aspect of our policy I feel needs to change. A percentage of player sales has to be spent on player purchases, and on purchases with a high potential for a higher resale, that can then be reinvested. MM was the only recent manager to achieve this with any degree of success. All others in the Evans era, he may as well have burnt his cash there and then.
Yes, losses need to be covered, but the team does need reinvestment in a few key areas, supported by low value Mings type low risk gambles, and youth coming through - of which we have a flush of decent prospects right now. [Post edited 12 Jun 2020 8:24]
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| What can we expect now for Downes and Woolfenden? on 08:40 - Jun 12 with 1196 views | Herbivore |
Probably a friendly with Lazio to get them off the wage bill. |  |
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| What can we expect now for Downes and Woolfenden? on 08:43 - Jun 12 with 1189 views | itfcjoe |
Downes has to go, he's too good to waste another season in L1, any PL club who picked him up for £5m can't lose as could loan him out to CHampionship or try and integrate him
Woolfie needs another year here, and think he'll stay |  |
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| What can we expect now for Downes and Woolfenden? on 08:44 - Jun 12 with 1184 views | ITFC_Forever |
It could go either way.
Either ME is desperate to raise money in the absence of crowds and sells them .... which will almost certainly be for a lower fee we would have hoped for a few months ago.
Or he decides the market rate is even lower than he will accept, refuses to sell and they stay here. |  |
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| What can we expect now for Downes and Woolfenden? on 10:21 - Jun 12 with 1089 views | IpswichKnight |
| What can we expect now for Downes and Woolfenden? on 08:43 - Jun 12 by itfcjoe |
Downes has to go, he's too good to waste another season in L1, any PL club who picked him up for £5m can't lose as could loan him out to CHampionship or try and integrate him
Woolfie needs another year here, and think he'll stay |
Downes will go and we could get lucky that a bidding war could take place and drive the price up a bit for us.
I get the impression that a lot of clubs are intrigued by Woolfie and see something but want to see another season due to his inexperience and playing at centre half. |  | | |
| What can we expect now for Downes and Woolfenden? on 10:21 - Jun 12 with 1089 views | SomethingBlue |
Downes will go to the Premier League — he'll be in exactly the right bracket for clubs that now have to set their sights slightly lower than intended in the market. Suspect he'd have ended up there anyway. Will still get a seven-figure sum but nothing like what we ought to be. | |
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| What can we expect now for Downes and Woolfenden? on 11:21 - Jun 12 with 1025 views | Libero |
Maybe I'm reading it all wrong again but I really do not see clubs making these kinds of transfers in the current climate.
I expect you'll see a lot more swap deals and a few established names moving around but will clubs really want to take such huge financial risks on unproven players when their own incoming finances are so tenuous at the moment?
I think you'll see clubs giving their own youth prospects more minutes as a result of this whole situation. |  | | |
| What can we expect now for Downes and Woolfenden? on 11:38 - Jun 12 with 1000 views | flimflam |
| What can we expect now for Downes and Woolfenden? on 11:21 - Jun 12 by Libero |
Maybe I'm reading it all wrong again but I really do not see clubs making these kinds of transfers in the current climate.
I expect you'll see a lot more swap deals and a few established names moving around but will clubs really want to take such huge financial risks on unproven players when their own incoming finances are so tenuous at the moment?
I think you'll see clubs giving their own youth prospects more minutes as a result of this whole situation. |
Clubs will also be thinking of what would happen if there is a second or third outbreak in the middle of next season and we are back to where we are now, players on massive contracts with no revenue coming in. |  |
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| What can we expect now for Downes and Woolfenden? on 11:42 - Jun 12 with 988 views | footers |
| What can we expect now for Downes and Woolfenden? on 11:21 - Jun 12 by Libero |
Maybe I'm reading it all wrong again but I really do not see clubs making these kinds of transfers in the current climate.
I expect you'll see a lot more swap deals and a few established names moving around but will clubs really want to take such huge financial risks on unproven players when their own incoming finances are so tenuous at the moment?
I think you'll see clubs giving their own youth prospects more minutes as a result of this whole situation. |
You say that, and I'm in partial agreement, but then you've still got the giant clubs waving large wads of dough about that should trickle down into the smaller clubs and leagues. I mean, Utd et al are still pressing ahead with wanting to sign players like Sancho for £100m+ so don't think football's 'come to its senses'... certainly not at the top level anyway. |  |
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| What can we expect now for Downes and Woolfenden? on 11:43 - Jun 12 with 980 views | Libero |
| What can we expect now for Downes and Woolfenden? on 11:38 - Jun 12 by flimflam |
Clubs will also be thinking of what would happen if there is a second or third outbreak in the middle of next season and we are back to where we are now, players on massive contracts with no revenue coming in. |
Exactly, I just can't see there being very much of a market, yes some clubs at our level and maybe some in the Championship too will be desperate to sell players to keep the club going but it really makes very little sense to be making player investments or renewing contracts right now in such hugely uncertain circumstances.
Clubs will be forced to look inward and promote their own. | | | |
| What can we expect now for Downes and Woolfenden? on 11:46 - Jun 12 with 969 views | Libero |
| What can we expect now for Downes and Woolfenden? on 11:42 - Jun 12 by footers |
You say that, and I'm in partial agreement, but then you've still got the giant clubs waving large wads of dough about that should trickle down into the smaller clubs and leagues. I mean, Utd et al are still pressing ahead with wanting to sign players like Sancho for £100m+ so don't think football's 'come to its senses'... certainly not at the top level anyway. |
Should it? - I think you have to consider why Championship, League One and Two clubs will be so desperate for money.
It's purely a case of survival, it's highly unlikely it's going to loosen everything enough where they can commit to new contracts or pay transfer fees in what are such incredibly uncertain times. [Post edited 12 Jun 2020 11:49]
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