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14 days in jail? 14:09 - Jun 15 with 6160 viewsbluelagos

For taking a p*ss next to a plaque?

Seriously?

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14 days in jail? on 14:11 - Jun 15 with 3803 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Agreed....pandering to a narrative! Ridiculous.

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14 days in jail? on 14:13 - Jun 15 with 3795 viewsbluelagos

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53051096

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14 days in jail? on 14:13 - Jun 15 with 3798 viewsEwan_Oozami

Yep, they knew what they voting for...

Prosecutor Michael Mallon said Banks, a Tottenham Hotspur fan, was in central London to "protect statues", but admitted he did not know which statues
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14 days in jail? on 14:23 - Jun 15 with 3722 viewsfactual_blue

Seriously as in 'too lenient', or seriously as in 'too harsh'?

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14 days in jail? on 14:27 - Jun 15 with 3707 viewsbluelagos

14 days in jail? on 14:13 - Jun 15 by Ewan_Oozami

Yep, they knew what they voting for...

Prosecutor Michael Mallon said Banks, a Tottenham Hotspur fan, was in central London to "protect statues", but admitted he did not know which statues
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Guy is a moron (not a crime) easily led (not a crime) p*ssed (not a crime) needed a p'ss (not a crime) took a leek in public (minor crime) and didn't check where he went (stupid / disrespectful / idiotic) and ends up doing jail time?

Similar to the idiot who tried to set fire to the flag at the cenotaph. Yep, police have to act and he deserves punishing. But is jail time really an appropriate punishment?

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14 days in jail? on 14:32 - Jun 15 with 3670 viewsHerbivore

Community service would have been better. Make him actually give something back. Maybe doing some work with inner city youths.

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14 days in jail? on 14:37 - Jun 15 with 3640 viewssparks

14 days in jail? on 14:27 - Jun 15 by bluelagos

Guy is a moron (not a crime) easily led (not a crime) p*ssed (not a crime) needed a p'ss (not a crime) took a leek in public (minor crime) and didn't check where he went (stupid / disrespectful / idiotic) and ends up doing jail time?

Similar to the idiot who tried to set fire to the flag at the cenotaph. Yep, police have to act and he deserves punishing. But is jail time really an appropriate punishment?



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14 days in jail? on 14:38 - Jun 15 with 3638 viewsGirthyguy

When you think about what some criminals get away with and get suspended sentences for assaults drink and drug drivers endangering people's lives etc. It amazes me how taking a pissed up slash next to that plaque gets you 14 days in prison within what less that 48 hours. Waste of time.
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14 days in jail? on 14:38 - Jun 15 with 3636 viewsFenboyBlue

Should have made him go up Nelson's Column and clean the pigeon poo off it. It must be pretty bad up there by now since John Noakes & Shep stopped doing it.
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14 days in jail? on 14:40 - Jun 15 with 3622 viewsEwan_Oozami

14 days in jail? on 14:27 - Jun 15 by bluelagos

Guy is a moron (not a crime) easily led (not a crime) p*ssed (not a crime) needed a p'ss (not a crime) took a leek in public (minor crime) and didn't check where he went (stupid / disrespectful / idiotic) and ends up doing jail time?

Similar to the idiot who tried to set fire to the flag at the cenotaph. Yep, police have to act and he deserves punishing. But is jail time really an appropriate punishment?


He will serve no more than two or three days behind bars - guaranteed.

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14 days in jail? on 14:41 - Jun 15 with 3614 viewsHerbivore

I'd also add I won't be losing any sleep over this. The guy was protesting against people protesting against racism. That makes him a racist, and I have very little sympathy for racists.

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14 days in jail? on 14:42 - Jun 15 with 3604 viewssparks

14 days in jail? on 14:40 - Jun 15 by Ewan_Oozami

He will serve no more than two or three days behind bars - guaranteed.


Its usually half the sentence.

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14 days in jail? on 14:42 - Jun 15 with 3605 viewsclive_baker

He's hardly a threat to society is he? Stupid thing to do, and I don't doubt the bloke is a moron but I would rather he's made to do community service, helping feed the homeless or something. What good is it doing anyone sticking him in prison for a fortnight.

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14 days in jail? on 14:43 - Jun 15 with 3601 viewsfactual_blue

14 days in jail? on 14:27 - Jun 15 by bluelagos

Guy is a moron (not a crime) easily led (not a crime) p*ssed (not a crime) needed a p'ss (not a crime) took a leek in public (minor crime) and didn't check where he went (stupid / disrespectful / idiotic) and ends up doing jail time?

Similar to the idiot who tried to set fire to the flag at the cenotaph. Yep, police have to act and he deserves punishing. But is jail time really an appropriate punishment?


Outraging public decency is an indictable common law offence which is punishable by unlimited imprisonment and/or an unlimited fine. To be guilty of this offence:

you must carry out an act which is lewd, obscene or of disgusting character, which outrages minimum standards of public decency as assessed by the jury;
the act must take place in a public place, or a place which is accessible to, or within view of, the public;
the act must take place in the actual presence of two or more persons who are capable of seeing it — it is irrelevant whether these people actually saw the act or were outraged by it.

So with fourteen days, he got off lightly. The scope for sentencing suggests it isn't seen as a minor crime.

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14 days in jail? on 14:45 - Jun 15 with 3588 viewsbluelagos

14 days in jail? on 14:41 - Jun 15 by Herbivore

I'd also add I won't be losing any sleep over this. The guy was protesting against people protesting against racism. That makes him a racist, and I have very little sympathy for racists.


What about the politicising of the justice system? You think you or I would get the same sentence if we had a p'ss on a saturday night out?

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14 days in jail? on 14:46 - Jun 15 with 3574 viewsHerbivore

14 days in jail? on 14:45 - Jun 15 by bluelagos

What about the politicising of the justice system? You think you or I would get the same sentence if we had a p'ss on a saturday night out?


Depends on whether it was on a memorial to a dead police officer whilst we were taking part in a far right riot whilst claiming to be 'defending statues'. In those circumstances then yes, we probably would. If we were pissing in a doorway at 1am on a Sunday morning after an uneventful night out then probably not. You can't remove all context.
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14 days in jail? on 14:52 - Jun 15 with 3553 viewsbluelagos

14 days in jail? on 14:46 - Jun 15 by Herbivore

Depends on whether it was on a memorial to a dead police officer whilst we were taking part in a far right riot whilst claiming to be 'defending statues'. In those circumstances then yes, we probably would. If we were pissing in a doorway at 1am on a Sunday morning after an uneventful night out then probably not. You can't remove all context.
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The context is he was p'ssed, needed a p'ss and was stupid to do it next to a plaque of a dead policeman.

The rest isn't relavant. If he did it next to the plaque to disrespect said policeman, he got off lightly. I doubt very much he did.

Drunken idiot, tick. Drunken right wing idiot, tick. Drunken right wing idiot intentionally causing public offence by disrespecting a memorial to brave policeman, don't buy it for a minute.

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14 days in jail? on 14:58 - Jun 15 with 3516 viewsSwansea_Blue

14 days in jail? on 14:52 - Jun 15 by bluelagos

The context is he was p'ssed, needed a p'ss and was stupid to do it next to a plaque of a dead policeman.

The rest isn't relavant. If he did it next to the plaque to disrespect said policeman, he got off lightly. I doubt very much he did.

Drunken idiot, tick. Drunken right wing idiot, tick. Drunken right wing idiot intentionally causing public offence by disrespecting a memorial to brave policeman, don't buy it for a minute.


Apparently the judge was satisfied there was no intent to deliberately 'target' the memorial.

It seems ridiculously harsh to me however much of an idiot he is. A slap on the wrist and 14 days community service in a immigrant-focussed charity or similar would be a more productive and educational means of rehabilitation.

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14 days in jail? on 15:03 - Jun 15 with 3497 viewsbluelagos

14 days in jail? on 14:58 - Jun 15 by Swansea_Blue

Apparently the judge was satisfied there was no intent to deliberately 'target' the memorial.

It seems ridiculously harsh to me however much of an idiot he is. A slap on the wrist and 14 days community service in a immigrant-focussed charity or similar would be a more productive and educational means of rehabilitation.


And the news report states there are mental health issues. Now that could be his brief trying it on, or it could be true.

With no assessment to send him to a prison (if it is true) could be highly detrimental to his welfare and for what? To keep the "String em up" brigade happy?

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14 days in jail? on 15:03 - Jun 15 with 3495 viewsDarth_Koont

What an utter state the UK is getting itself into. Nonsense like this just distracts us from the real crimes and injustices going on.

I'd prefer they addressed the root causes of the far right, as well as the BLM protests, rather than supposedly dealing with unrest by petty law and order posturing.

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14 days in jail? on 15:04 - Jun 15 with 3489 viewsHerbivore

14 days in jail? on 14:52 - Jun 15 by bluelagos

The context is he was p'ssed, needed a p'ss and was stupid to do it next to a plaque of a dead policeman.

The rest isn't relavant. If he did it next to the plaque to disrespect said policeman, he got off lightly. I doubt very much he did.

Drunken idiot, tick. Drunken right wing idiot, tick. Drunken right wing idiot intentionally causing public offence by disrespecting a memorial to brave policeman, don't buy it for a minute.


As I said earlier in the thread, I think community service would have been more appropriate. But I'm also not going to lose any sleep over a pissed up racist getting harshly done by for acting like the hooligan he is.

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14 days in jail? on 15:10 - Jun 15 with 3455 viewsBtreeBlueBlood

14 days in jail? on 14:45 - Jun 15 by bluelagos

What about the politicising of the justice system? You think you or I would get the same sentence if we had a p'ss on a saturday night out?


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14 days in jail? on 15:13 - Jun 15 with 3436 viewsfooters

14 days in jail? on 15:04 - Jun 15 by Herbivore

As I said earlier in the thread, I think community service would have been more appropriate. But I'm also not going to lose any sleep over a pissed up racist getting harshly done by for acting like the hooligan he is.


This. If it's a miscarriage of justice, then a) it's pretty light and b) couldn't have happened to a better person.

Still, it'll give mummy and daddy who he still lives with a couple of weeks' respite.

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14 days in jail? on 15:14 - Jun 15 with 3426 viewsmrshallisfit

0 days for the pissing incident. For being a lowlife, white trash, dumbf##k - 20 years with no parole.
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14 days in jail? on 15:19 - Jun 15 with 3381 viewsEwan_Oozami

14 days in jail? on 15:03 - Jun 15 by bluelagos

And the news report states there are mental health issues. Now that could be his brief trying it on, or it could be true.

With no assessment to send him to a prison (if it is true) could be highly detrimental to his welfare and for what? To keep the "String em up" brigade happy?


He probably is, and probably voted for, the "string 'em up brigade"

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