| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? 09:00 - Jun 18 with 8174 views | bobbyramsey |
How the hell would that work?
There will be some extremely disgruntled player and many fewer of them I presume?
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| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 09:03 - Jun 18 with 5765 views | bobbyramsey |
.....to include agents fees too, blimey! | | | |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 09:03 - Jun 18 with 5756 views | textbackup |
which player we have would you say deserves more than £2.5k a week?
(workings done on a 20 man squad) |  |
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| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 09:05 - Jun 18 with 5743 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
To be fair, for about 75% of clubs it's probably quite sensible.
If it was an average of say £100k pa for the players, that's probably very fair for playing football at L1 level.
It just doesnt really work out for bigger clubs like us. |  |
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| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 09:08 - Jun 18 with 5720 views | JammyDodgerrr |
Seems incredibly low. You would imagine it will greatly effect the "big clubs" in the division and also cause massive problems for the gulf between championship/league one |  |
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| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 09:30 - Jun 18 with 5627 views | PrideOfTheEast |
It's low and for it to work surely I they'd need to do the same across the board with increases as you go higher but obviously that is not going to happen any time soon given most Champ sides probably have more than one player earning that amount!
It'd level the playing field in L1 but, then again, us and Sunderland hardly excelled this year did we. Presumably the biggest issue would be us getting to that sort of level in a short space of time. |  | | |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 09:31 - Jun 18 with 5615 views | textbackup |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 09:08 - Jun 18 by JammyDodgerrr |
Seems incredibly low. You would imagine it will greatly effect the "big clubs" in the division and also cause massive problems for the gulf between championship/league one |
our higher earners literally have only themselves to blame for the position they find themselves | |
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| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 09:48 - Jun 18 with 5563 views | tractorboy1978 |
Anything that isn't based on a % of revenue is a bit pointless. How can the same arbitrary cap of £2.5m be sustainable for both us and Accrington?
I am sure the £2.5m would exclude promotion bonuses and youth players below a certain age? There would be ways of manipulating it I am sure. | | | |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 09:50 - Jun 18 with 5555 views | southnorfolkblue |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 09:03 - Jun 18 by textbackup |
which player we have would you say deserves more than £2.5k a week?
(workings done on a 20 man squad) |
That’s fair comment but people cannot be surprised if anybody with the slightest talent gets picked off by a Championship club that doesn’t have to play by similar rules on wages. | |
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| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 09:58 - Jun 18 with 5531 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 09:50 - Jun 18 by southnorfolkblue |
That’s fair comment but people cannot be surprised if anybody with the slightest talent gets picked off by a Championship club that doesn’t have to play by similar rules on wages. |
Exactly that. | | | |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 10:03 - Jun 18 with 5521 views | OsborneOneNil |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 09:05 - Jun 18 by Marshalls_Mullet |
To be fair, for about 75% of clubs it's probably quite sensible.
If it was an average of say £100k pa for the players, that's probably very fair for playing football at L1 level.
It just doesnt really work out for bigger clubs like us. |
Another example of us being in the wrong place at the wrong time. See also, we get relegated from the Prem then ITV footie deal goes pop. |  | | |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 10:06 - Jun 18 with 5500 views | factual_blue |
It's for the playing squad, isn't it? With that capped at twenty players that gives £125,000 average per head. Not that terrible.
And it is only a proposal so far. |  |
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| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 10:14 - Jun 18 with 5484 views | Slambo |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 09:50 - Jun 18 by southnorfolkblue |
That’s fair comment but people cannot be surprised if anybody with the slightest talent gets picked off by a Championship club that doesn’t have to play by similar rules on wages. |
I read the EADT article and pretty sure it says the Champ is looking to roll out a salary cap as well... |  |
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| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 10:39 - Jun 18 with 5414 views | Pinewoodblue |
The latest spending on agents fees is overdue but for the last season figures were published Town spent over £790,000. |  |
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| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 11:00 - Jun 18 with 5350 views | Clapham_Junction |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 09:48 - Jun 18 by tractorboy1978 |
Anything that isn't based on a % of revenue is a bit pointless. How can the same arbitrary cap of £2.5m be sustainable for both us and Accrington?
I am sure the £2.5m would exclude promotion bonuses and youth players below a certain age? There would be ways of manipulating it I am sure. |
The problem is that when you start making it proportional, clubs can easily find ways to cheat the system with dubious revenue streams like selling their stadium to their owner. A hard salary cap is probably much easier to manage.
Personally I've thought for a long time that a hard salary cap like this was a good idea,, although it really should be done at all levels to avoid a situation that this one will probably create re the gap between the Championship and League One.
I also don't think this is necessarily an awful thing for the club - it will significantly reduce or possibly even eliminate our losses. We had to balance our outgoings with our income at some point. |  | | |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 11:06 - Jun 18 with 5329 views | Pinewoodblue |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 11:00 - Jun 18 by Clapham_Junction |
The problem is that when you start making it proportional, clubs can easily find ways to cheat the system with dubious revenue streams like selling their stadium to their owner. A hard salary cap is probably much easier to manage.
Personally I've thought for a long time that a hard salary cap like this was a good idea,, although it really should be done at all levels to avoid a situation that this one will probably create re the gap between the Championship and League One.
I also don't think this is necessarily an awful thing for the club - it will significantly reduce or possibly even eliminate our losses. We had to balance our outgoings with our income at some point. |
The bottom line is that it as good as guarantees the sale of young players. Only U21’s are excluded from salary cap.
Dozzell for example is 21. | |
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| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 12:31 - Jun 18 with 5180 views | BtreeBlueBlood |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 10:03 - Jun 18 by OsborneOneNil |
Another example of us being in the wrong place at the wrong time. See also, we get relegated from the Prem then ITV footie deal goes pop. |
Going back to the 1st season of 3pts for a win. We drew to many
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Then we qualified for Europe by the least yellow card S. Which meant us going to some country on a Thursday instead of getting back to the premiership!
We do end up in the water spout struggling! |  | | |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 13:20 - Jun 18 with 5062 views | ITFC_96 |
Clearly a few people in here are not aware the a football player's career lasts a maximum of about 15 years. They need to earn as much money as they can while playing because football careers could end almost instantly too with the potential for injuries. It is a lot of money for the average person, but not when you factor in the fact that when the average footballer at this level quits they have effectively missed out on 15+ years of normal career development.
A salary cap this low would be ridiculous and there is going to be a huge, huge gulf between the championship and league 1 if this is put in place at such a low figure. [Post edited 18 Jun 2020 13:22]
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| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 13:26 - Jun 18 with 5031 views | TJS |
Can't work out how on earth 1.25m in League Two would work.
If you divide that by 30 staff that's an average of £41,666 a year.
Factor in probably having to change career and start again at 40 it you'd probably be better off training to be an electrician or something. |  | | |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 13:43 - Jun 18 with 4973 views | brazil1982 |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 13:20 - Jun 18 by ITFC_96 |
Clearly a few people in here are not aware the a football player's career lasts a maximum of about 15 years. They need to earn as much money as they can while playing because football careers could end almost instantly too with the potential for injuries. It is a lot of money for the average person, but not when you factor in the fact that when the average footballer at this level quits they have effectively missed out on 15+ years of normal career development.
A salary cap this low would be ridiculous and there is going to be a huge, huge gulf between the championship and league 1 if this is put in place at such a low figure. [Post edited 18 Jun 2020 13:22]
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That is no excuse for the huge salaries paid. Get another career, it's what most of our Olympic athletes have to do and their sporting career is far shorter. | | | |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 13:46 - Jun 18 with 4963 views | ElderGrizzly |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 09:05 - Jun 18 by Marshalls_Mullet |
To be fair, for about 75% of clubs it's probably quite sensible.
If it was an average of say £100k pa for the players, that's probably very fair for playing football at L1 level.
It just doesnt really work out for bigger clubs like us. |
At the other end of the scale, Sunderland had one player earning £2.5m just themselves when they dropped into L1.
It will be unworkable, even if it is the right thing to do |  | | |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 13:49 - Jun 18 with 4948 views | Chrisd |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 09:03 - Jun 18 by bobbyramsey |
.....to include agents fees too, blimey! |
They've been taking more than their fair share for quite some time and effectively part of the problem. Clubs in the lower leagues, like ourselves, are going to need to plan carefully who they target. However, you can see more of the younger pros getting their opportunity, as they'll cost less. The fat will be well and truly trimmed in most clubs. | |
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| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 14:17 - Jun 18 with 4908 views | Radlett_blue |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 13:46 - Jun 18 by ElderGrizzly |
At the other end of the scale, Sunderland had one player earning £2.5m just themselves when they dropped into L1.
It will be unworkable, even if it is the right thing to do |
If there is going to be a real salary cap in League 1, there will need to be an allowance for clubs relegated from the Championship, where wages are far higher. There won't be parachute payments, but they will need to give clubs time to put their house in order. And then the arguments familiar to those in the Championship will continue.
The one good thing that could arise from this crisis is a real re-set of player wages. |  |
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| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 14:56 - Jun 18 with 4843 views | Pinewoodblue |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 13:49 - Jun 18 by Chrisd |
They've been taking more than their fair share for quite some time and effectively part of the problem. Clubs in the lower leagues, like ourselves, are going to need to plan carefully who they target. However, you can see more of the younger pros getting their opportunity, as they'll cost less. The fat will be well and truly trimmed in most clubs. |
But if we are still stuck in League One we won’t be able to keep them but would have to sell. | |
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| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 14:57 - Jun 18 with 4842 views | Chrisd |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 14:17 - Jun 18 by Radlett_blue |
If there is going to be a real salary cap in League 1, there will need to be an allowance for clubs relegated from the Championship, where wages are far higher. There won't be parachute payments, but they will need to give clubs time to put their house in order. And then the arguments familiar to those in the Championship will continue.
The one good thing that could arise from this crisis is a real re-set of player wages. |
What it has shown is that football isn’t really that important in the great scheme of things. Although players possess a unique skill and talent in regards to their ability, the recent live games have highlighted the game is a far inferior product without the involvement of the fans. | |
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| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 15:04 - Jun 18 with 4821 views | Chrisd |
| £2.5m spread over the entire playing staff....? on 14:56 - Jun 18 by Pinewoodblue |
But if we are still stuck in League One we won’t be able to keep them but would have to sell. |
That's the way it seems to be heading though Pinewoodblue. It's an issue for our owner and manager to entice them to stay. | |
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