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It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, 10:17 - Jun 22 with 4155 viewsGuthrum

impressive as it is, was only one part of a vast ritual/monumental landscape.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jun/22/vast-neolithic-circle-of-deep-sh

Obviously the grasslands of Salisbury Plain are particularly good for preserving evidence of these things, but one wonders whether it was unique in scale, or if there is more to be found around places like Avebury (which is already known to be part of an elaborate complex of sites).

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It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 14:06 - Jun 22 with 1038 viewsKeno

It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 14:00 - Jun 22 by leitrimblue

Will do, thanks. It's not quite as cool as it sounds, it's pis5ing down at the moment an I'm writing this while trying to shelter under a tree


Haha!!

Surely that's just a drop of the old liquid sunshine!!

I'd still swap you

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It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 14:44 - Jun 22 with 1002 viewsGeoffSentence

It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 12:43 - Jun 22 by Guthrum

Some years ago I got the opportunity to go right in amongst the stones (on a non-solstice day), courtesy of some druid friends who were holding a ceremony. You really get a proper idea of the size of them from close up.


I never understood why Druids got preferential access to Stonehenge.

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It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 14:47 - Jun 22 with 1001 viewshampstead_blue

just imagine how much has been blown to bits by the Gunner and tankies over the years.

It is very exciting. Mrs H works in that space now and is gently cooing.

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It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 14:53 - Jun 22 with 992 viewsfactual_blue

It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 11:06 - Jun 22 by leitrimblue

Did you know that there are similar monument complexs in Suffolk an Essex? It's just that different agricultural practice's in this part of the country as lead to most of them being ploughed out and only visible from aerial photos. Stour valley as an enormous amount of these monument's think there is a large complex of multiple sites around Cavendish


They might instead be part of the branch lines for the Ipswich Underground railway system.

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It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 15:37 - Jun 22 with 961 viewsleitrimblue

It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 14:47 - Jun 22 by hampstead_blue

just imagine how much has been blown to bits by the Gunner and tankies over the years.

It is very exciting. Mrs H works in that space now and is gently cooing.


Some people have no respect for there own history an monument's
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It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 15:55 - Jun 22 with 951 viewsstringy

It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 13:51 - Jun 22 by leitrimblue

I'm not sure if much of the information is on line. I wrote something for the Suffolk smr office 20 years ago about the Neolithic monument's of the stour valley, not sure if they still use it. Have worked in the West of Ireland for last 20 years. Here we have a mapping system called environmental viewer Which shows the location of every archaeological monument in the country, I'm sure something similar exists in the UK. I'm actually in the middle of excavating a bronze age barrow at the moment but will message a friend in the UK later who will know if anything online there in the uk


for Suffolk this is what you can search:

https://heritage.suffolk.gov.uk/
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It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 16:04 - Jun 22 with 936 viewsOldsmoker

Events took place here in June around the solstice.
There are two main stages - Durrington Walls and Stonehenge.
There's a causeway between them that links them.
They've previously found rubbish pits that contain pig bones so they've suggested that there was a market area with food stalls and places to buy trinkets.
There must have been people banging drums.
These pits could be for the portaloos.
Its has to be Glastonbury BC.

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Talking of Salisbury on 18:37 - Jun 22 with 900 viewsRadlett_blue

Talking of Salisbury on 14:05 - Jun 22 by solemio

It'a little higher than the top of the cathedral tower at St Albans, although the latter cathedral stands on land higher above sea level than any other in England.

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Lincoln Cathedral was the tallest building in the world for 238 years (1311—1548), and the first building to hold that title after the Great Pyramid of Giza. The central spire collapsed in 1548 and was not rebuilt. Salisbury then became the tallest church spire in the country. Had the central spire remained intact, Lincoln Cathedral would have remained the world's tallest structure until the completion of the Eiffel Tower in 1889.

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It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 20:09 - Jun 22 with 883 viewsmonytowbray

Stone Henge is some crazy stuff. I saw a thing the other day where they examined the bones of animals to determine what part of the country people had travelled from and some were as far away as Scotland.

I mean A) SCIENCE IS RAD and B) they were deffo getting space rides with aliens. F*ck walking all that way.

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It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 20:11 - Jun 22 with 877 viewsKeno

It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 20:09 - Jun 22 by monytowbray

Stone Henge is some crazy stuff. I saw a thing the other day where they examined the bones of animals to determine what part of the country people had travelled from and some were as far away as Scotland.

I mean A) SCIENCE IS RAD and B) they were deffo getting space rides with aliens. F*ck walking all that way.


you mean they travelled from Scotland in a like a flying car?

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It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 20:19 - Jun 22 with 873 viewsmonytowbray

It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 20:11 - Jun 22 by Keno

you mean they travelled from Scotland in a like a flying car?


More of a motorised horse with wheels.

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It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 07:53 - Jun 23 with 812 viewsWeWereZombies

It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 13:51 - Jun 22 by leitrimblue

I'm not sure if much of the information is on line. I wrote something for the Suffolk smr office 20 years ago about the Neolithic monument's of the stour valley, not sure if they still use it. Have worked in the West of Ireland for last 20 years. Here we have a mapping system called environmental viewer Which shows the location of every archaeological monument in the country, I'm sure something similar exists in the UK. I'm actually in the middle of excavating a bronze age barrow at the moment but will message a friend in the UK later who will know if anything online there in the uk


What's your view on the idea (and I may be out of date on this) that Céide Fields shows a pre-Celtic civilisation who peace was disrupted by these bronze age migrants from Europe with their newfangled technology?

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It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 07:59 - Jun 23 with 810 viewsKeno

It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 07:53 - Jun 23 by WeWereZombies

What's your view on the idea (and I may be out of date on this) that Céide Fields shows a pre-Celtic civilisation who peace was disrupted by these bronze age migrants from Europe with their newfangled technology?


Typical eh!! Eastern European’s coming here taking are jobs

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It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 08:21 - Jun 23 with 805 viewsWeWereZombies

It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 12:43 - Jun 22 by Guthrum

Some years ago I got the opportunity to go right in amongst the stones (on a non-solstice day), courtesy of some druid friends who were holding a ceremony. You really get a proper idea of the size of them from close up.


Not sure what it is like these days (or was before the pandemic) but I have been in and around Avebury a few times, one time was just before our 6-0 at Swindon. The first time I went to the HebCelt festival on Lewis we could not get any bed and breakfast accommodation and did not fancy the campsite so we went for a pod and ended up right next to the Callanish stones, imagine seeing Van Morrison and then driving back in the moonlight over a back road before waking up in the morning and having a wander through those stones to get to the family you were renting the pod off for a chat.

Another one I have got amongst is just south of Bristol at Stanton Drew, you are probably familiar with it - would be more impressive than either Stonehenge or Avebury if all the stones were there and not in such a wrecked state as most of the few that are left.
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It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 08:52 - Jun 23 with 788 viewsStokieBlue

It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 12:43 - Jun 22 by Guthrum

Some years ago I got the opportunity to go right in amongst the stones (on a non-solstice day), courtesy of some druid friends who were holding a ceremony. You really get a proper idea of the size of them from close up.


I like Avebury for that reason - you can get right up to the stones.

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It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 09:44 - Jun 23 with 772 viewsleitrimblue

It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 07:53 - Jun 23 by WeWereZombies

What's your view on the idea (and I may be out of date on this) that Céide Fields shows a pre-Celtic civilisation who peace was disrupted by these bronze age migrants from Europe with their newfangled technology?


I'd say that's very unlikely. I think the idea of cultural change being brought about by migration or invasion is completely over exaggerated. Think it is much more likely to be assimilation or adoption of a culture by the native inhabitants. I actually found a continuation of Ceide fields in South Sligo a few years back. It's almost 2 meters under the bog
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It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 10:02 - Jun 23 with 767 viewsWeWereZombies

It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 09:44 - Jun 23 by leitrimblue

I'd say that's very unlikely. I think the idea of cultural change being brought about by migration or invasion is completely over exaggerated. Think it is much more likely to be assimilation or adoption of a culture by the native inhabitants. I actually found a continuation of Ceide fields in South Sligo a few years back. It's almost 2 meters under the bog


Thanks for that, always interested in a broad view of what the latest opinions are around the effects of iron implements giving an edge (pun intended) over stone, bronze over iron, steel over bronze, steam over horse drawn, oil over steam, electrical over oil and so on ad infinitum (as well as the efficiencies that derive from methods of communication that run across all of those step changes).

Hope you have a view of the boat standing high on a mountain if you working close to Carrowmore; and don't run into trouble with a capital 'T'.

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It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 10:11 - Jun 23 with 760 viewsleitrimblue

It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 10:02 - Jun 23 by WeWereZombies

Thanks for that, always interested in a broad view of what the latest opinions are around the effects of iron implements giving an edge (pun intended) over stone, bronze over iron, steel over bronze, steam over horse drawn, oil over steam, electrical over oil and so on ad infinitum (as well as the efficiencies that derive from methods of communication that run across all of those step changes).

Hope you have a view of the boat standing high on a mountain if you working close to Carrowmore; and don't run into trouble with a capital 'T'.


I can almost see carrowmore from here, no sign of a boat though
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It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 10:19 - Jun 23 with 757 viewsWeWereZombies

It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 10:11 - Jun 23 by leitrimblue

I can almost see carrowmore from here, no sign of a boat though


It's not an actual boat but a rock formation that looks like one and, inevitably, has a legend attached to it. I think it is on one of the Ballygawley Hills and I am convinced, probably mistakenly, that it was the inspiration for the Horslips song 'Trouble with a Capital T'.

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It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 11:10 - Jun 23 with 738 viewsleitrimblue

It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 10:19 - Jun 23 by WeWereZombies

It's not an actual boat but a rock formation that looks like one and, inevitably, has a legend attached to it. I think it is on one of the Ballygawley Hills and I am convinced, probably mistakenly, that it was the inspiration for the Horslips song 'Trouble with a Capital T'.


I live just outside Ballygawley, will have a look on the way home
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It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 14:35 - Jun 23 with 711 viewsRyorry

It is becoming increasingly clear that Stonehenge, on 12:43 - Jun 22 by Guthrum

Some years ago I got the opportunity to go right in amongst the stones (on a non-solstice day), courtesy of some druid friends who were holding a ceremony. You really get a proper idea of the size of them from close up.


Needs a Quest slot on the 'How Did They Do That' show, complete with re-enactment to demonstrate!

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