An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr 10:16 - Jul 2 with 2658 views | ElderGrizzly | Against all FCO advice and going via Bulgaria to avoid ban in travel between UK and Greece
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An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 10:31 - Jul 2 with 1860 views | Herbivore | One rule for the elite, one for everyone else. Hopefully he gets robbed and can't claim on his travel insurance. | |
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An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 11:26 - Jul 2 with 1790 views | SomethingBlue | They continue to laugh in people's faces and an incredible percentage of the people continue to love it. | |
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An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 11:30 - Jul 2 with 1770 views | Swansea_Blue |
An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 10:31 - Jul 2 by Herbivore | One rule for the elite, one for everyone else. Hopefully he gets robbed and can't claim on his travel insurance. |
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An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 11:39 - Jul 2 with 1744 views | Swansea_Blue | On the plus side, it's another example of the Daily Mail showing up this government and the people around it for the a-holes they are. At this rate some Mail readers may slowly start to see the light (possibly). | |
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An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 11:53 - Jul 2 with 1679 views | Herbivore |
An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 11:26 - Jul 2 by SomethingBlue | They continue to laugh in people's faces and an incredible percentage of the people continue to love it. |
It's become so tribal that those who support Johnson will find reasons to justify it. | |
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An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 12:01 - Jul 2 with 1649 views | ElderGrizzly |
An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 11:53 - Jul 2 by Herbivore | It's become so tribal that those who support Johnson will find reasons to justify it. |
Freedom of Movement...😠| | | |
An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 12:12 - Jul 2 with 1609 views | Chutney |
An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 11:53 - Jul 2 by Herbivore | It's become so tribal that those who support Johnson will find reasons to justify it. |
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An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 12:14 - Jul 2 with 1604 views | Herbivore |
An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 12:12 - Jul 2 by Chutney | Which Johnson? |
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An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 12:47 - Jul 2 with 1523 views | Illinoisblue |
An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 12:14 - Jul 2 by Herbivore | Gavin. |
Pick that one oot | |
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An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 12:48 - Jul 2 with 1524 views | 26_Paz | Has he broken any laws? I don’t think there’s anything to stop anyone else doing this. Not so much one rule for one and one rule for everyone else as guidance that one individual has chosen to ignore ... | |
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An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 12:52 - Jul 2 with 1498 views | Herbivore |
An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 12:48 - Jul 2 by 26_Paz | Has he broken any laws? I don’t think there’s anything to stop anyone else doing this. Not so much one rule for one and one rule for everyone else as guidance that one individual has chosen to ignore ... |
Guidance issued by his son's government. Things don't need to be illegal to be worthy of scorn, Paz. [Post edited 2 Jul 2020 12:53]
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An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 12:58 - Jul 2 with 1464 views | Chutney |
An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 12:52 - Jul 2 by Herbivore | Guidance issued by his son's government. Things don't need to be illegal to be worthy of scorn, Paz. [Post edited 2 Jul 2020 12:53]
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It does raise an interesting question to what extent, if any, the Prime Minister is responsible for the actions of his father. Certainly reflects terribly on Johnson Snr, but can Boris be responsible for the actions of others, family or otherwise? In the same respect Jeremy Corbyn's lunatic brother isn't' a reflection on JC. In my opinion. | | | |
An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 13:09 - Jul 2 with 1421 views | factual_blue |
An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 11:39 - Jul 2 by Swansea_Blue | On the plus side, it's another example of the Daily Mail showing up this government and the people around it for the a-holes they are. At this rate some Mail readers may slowly start to see the light (possibly). |
A one way ticket would be fine. Perhaps he could rock up in his ancestral homeland of Turkey. | |
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An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 13:21 - Jul 2 with 1376 views | Herbivore |
An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 12:58 - Jul 2 by Chutney | It does raise an interesting question to what extent, if any, the Prime Minister is responsible for the actions of his father. Certainly reflects terribly on Johnson Snr, but can Boris be responsible for the actions of others, family or otherwise? In the same respect Jeremy Corbyn's lunatic brother isn't' a reflection on JC. In my opinion. |
I think the issue is if you're own father isn't following rb guidance, and you either haven't tried or have failed to convince him to follow it, then it rather undermines your credibility and your ability to tell everyone else they also need to follow it. It's also yet another example of one of Johnson's inner circle seeing themselves as being above the restrictions the rest of us are expected to adhere to, which again undermines the message. That is the issue rather than Johnson being directly responsible. The Corbyn example doesn't necessarily work here, this isn't about a family member holding some whacky views, it's about a very close family member who goes in to bat for Johnson at times acting in a way that contravenes a message his son's government is trying to uphold. Not quite the same thing, especially when you add in the way that the elder Johnson has been sent out to act as a spokesperson for his son in the way that Corbyn's brother hasn't. There is also the further distinction between a party of government and opposition, one is actually offering guidance that is being breached whereas the other can't do so. And in any case as I said, it's not about holding the younger Johnson responsible for his dad's actions but rather that the actions undermine his government's messaging and it doesn't reflect terribly well on any of them. | |
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An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 15:07 - Jul 2 with 1265 views | TractorWood |
An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 12:52 - Jul 2 by Herbivore | Guidance issued by his son's government. Things don't need to be illegal to be worthy of scorn, Paz. [Post edited 2 Jul 2020 12:53]
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In my eyes, to which I'm happy to be rebutted especially as one of the posters on here is pretty closely involved to their matters, the FCO are one of Britain's best and most fit for purpose departments. It provides in depth and specific guidance to hundreds of countries on an extremely specific and niche basis. For example here is some handy tips on Guinea Bissau: Carry ID (passport or residence permit) with you at all times, particularly when driving or taking a taxi, when the likelihood of having to produce it is high. People should listen to their guidance as it's based on providing support to people for many years for millions of trips. | |
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An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 16:52 - Jul 2 with 1149 views | ElderGrizzly |
An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 15:07 - Jul 2 by TractorWood | In my eyes, to which I'm happy to be rebutted especially as one of the posters on here is pretty closely involved to their matters, the FCO are one of Britain's best and most fit for purpose departments. It provides in depth and specific guidance to hundreds of countries on an extremely specific and niche basis. For example here is some handy tips on Guinea Bissau: Carry ID (passport or residence permit) with you at all times, particularly when driving or taking a taxi, when the likelihood of having to produce it is high. People should listen to their guidance as it's based on providing support to people for many years for millions of trips. |
I’m thinking of getting more general advice out there at present of simply “don’t be a selfish c*nt” | | | |
An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 16:59 - Jul 2 with 1143 views | Swansea_Blue |
An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 15:07 - Jul 2 by TractorWood | In my eyes, to which I'm happy to be rebutted especially as one of the posters on here is pretty closely involved to their matters, the FCO are one of Britain's best and most fit for purpose departments. It provides in depth and specific guidance to hundreds of countries on an extremely specific and niche basis. For example here is some handy tips on Guinea Bissau: Carry ID (passport or residence permit) with you at all times, particularly when driving or taking a taxi, when the likelihood of having to produce it is high. People should listen to their guidance as it's based on providing support to people for many years for millions of trips. |
Agreed. Or that was my impression when I used to travel a lot and be involved with FCO initiatives and rely on their advice and in-country support. That was back when Rifkind, Robin Cook, Jack Straw, Beckett and Dave Miliband were at the helm. All decent Foreign Secs in my experience. God knows what state the service is in now though after Johnson and Raab have had their hands on it in recent years. | |
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An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 17:00 - Jul 2 with 1141 views | BlueBadger |
An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 12:52 - Jul 2 by Herbivore | Guidance issued by his son's government. Things don't need to be illegal to be worthy of scorn, Paz. [Post edited 2 Jul 2020 12:53]
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In any case, it was perfectly fine because he wasn't protesting against systemic racism. | |
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An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 17:03 - Jul 2 with 1137 views | uefacup81 | Sadly I'm starting to think that these almost-daily 'scandals' are merely 'dead cats' which the media seem all too happy to pounce upon and turn into the headline du jour. Whilst everyone is focusing on Johnson Snr, the fiasco of the delayed lockdown in Leicester is being bumped down the running order, just as the Tories would like it. See also: Barnard Castle eye test £900k aeroplane paint-job etc., etc., | |
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An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 17:10 - Jul 2 with 1117 views | Pinewoodblue | Suspect Johnson Snr is looking to buy property in Greece. If you invest €250,000 you get greek residency with freedom of movement around Europe. | |
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An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 17:40 - Jul 2 with 1079 views | TractorWood |
An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 16:59 - Jul 2 by Swansea_Blue | Agreed. Or that was my impression when I used to travel a lot and be involved with FCO initiatives and rely on their advice and in-country support. That was back when Rifkind, Robin Cook, Jack Straw, Beckett and Dave Miliband were at the helm. All decent Foreign Secs in my experience. God knows what state the service is in now though after Johnson and Raab have had their hands on it in recent years. |
Before going to Japan I looked on their website and it says it is the law for all foreigners to have their passport on them at all times. Literally priceless advice. | |
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An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 20:31 - Jul 2 with 1002 views | andytown | I had understood that Greece is closed to British citizens at the moment, so how did he get through after flying from Sofia? | | | |
An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 20:35 - Jul 2 with 994 views | 26_Paz |
An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 17:00 - Jul 2 by BlueBadger | In any case, it was perfectly fine because he wasn't protesting against systemic racism. |
He was making a property he rents out to holiday makers COVID secure. What an absolute b@stard ... | |
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An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 20:43 - Jul 2 with 981 views | jaykay |
An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 20:35 - Jul 2 by 26_Paz | He was making a property he rents out to holiday makers COVID secure. What an absolute b@stard ... |
i would have thought ,how do the landed gentry say, they have people do that sort of thing. | |
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An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 21:55 - Jul 2 with 929 views | Herbivore |
An ‘essential’ trip to Greece by Johnson snr on 20:35 - Jul 2 by 26_Paz | He was making a property he rents out to holiday makers COVID secure. What an absolute b@stard ... |
You really buy that? Blimey. | |
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