| This £2.5 million League One salary cap 11:12 - Jul 2 with 3756 views | bournemouthblue |
is ridiculous
It's going to massively limit the ability for League One clubs to bridge the gap to the Championship once promoted?
I'm all for the progression of youth development but it's surely going to see a lot of Championship sides hording all the players who are even remotely competent |  |
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| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 11:29 - Jul 2 with 2832 views | Fixed_It |
As is the Ipswich way, our timing is diabolical!!! |  |
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| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 11:34 - Jul 2 with 2792 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
At this rate I'm not sure the championship clubs will be able to afford to stockpile players.
I can see championships clubs wanting to be leaner going forward.
It is going to cause issues in terms of bridging the gap though. |  |
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| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 11:35 - Jul 2 with 2781 views | Swansea_Blue |
People have been saying for a while that the growing gap between the PL and Championship has been causing problems. This just throws up another divide. It'll be increasingly difficult for clubs who've been in L1 for a while to compete with those coming down, who get the parachute-style protection. It'll just create a two tier league.
It might be needed overall to make clubs more sustainable, but rather than hamstring L1 and L2 clubs this would only fair and equitable if the salary caps ran through all the leagues, PL down to L2. |  |
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| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 11:41 - Jul 2 with 2788 views | sparks |
| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 11:35 - Jul 2 by Swansea_Blue |
People have been saying for a while that the growing gap between the PL and Championship has been causing problems. This just throws up another divide. It'll be increasingly difficult for clubs who've been in L1 for a while to compete with those coming down, who get the parachute-style protection. It'll just create a two tier league.
It might be needed overall to make clubs more sustainable, but rather than hamstring L1 and L2 clubs this would only fair and equitable if the salary caps ran through all the leagues, PL down to L2. |
Indeed. This is essentially the majority of clubs in L1 bringing the bigger clubs like us and sunderland, down to their level. In so doing, they are digging their own graves insofar as any long term ambition to make and stay in the championship is concerned. |  |
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| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 11:47 - Jul 2 with 2762 views | homer_123 |
| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 11:34 - Jul 2 by Marshalls_Mullet |
At this rate I'm not sure the championship clubs will be able to afford to stockpile players.
I can see championships clubs wanting to be leaner going forward.
It is going to cause issues in terms of bridging the gap though. |
Should any team be stockpiling though?
We bemoan the likes of Chelsea etc. so surely it's no different for other clubs.
That aside, yes, it's going to make bridging the gap between divisions ever more difficult. |  |
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| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 11:49 - Jul 2 with 2756 views | sparks |
| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 11:47 - Jul 2 by homer_123 |
Should any team be stockpiling though?
We bemoan the likes of Chelsea etc. so surely it's no different for other clubs.
That aside, yes, it's going to make bridging the gap between divisions ever more difficult. |
Agree entirely- stockpiling is detrimental to all of the lower clubs. But that horse has bolted, due to the cash in the PL and the who EPPP / academy arrangements. | |
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| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 12:00 - Jul 2 with 2711 views | Keaneish |
Farcical. Only a matter of time before a European Super League and League One and Two clubs become feeder clubs. Are there any action groups out there we can start petitioning with? The FA long gave up being a viable body for any meaningful action. |  |
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| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 12:11 - Jul 2 with 2687 views | DinnernotTea |
Is £2.5m *playing* staff only only do we know? |  |
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| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 12:19 - Jul 2 with 2661 views | bobbyramsey |
| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 12:11 - Jul 2 by DinnernotTea |
Is £2.5m *playing* staff only only do we know? |
Playing staff over 21 years of age apparently. |  | | |
| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 12:28 - Jul 2 with 2627 views | WubbleU |
| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 12:00 - Jul 2 by Keaneish |
Farcical. Only a matter of time before a European Super League and League One and Two clubs become feeder clubs. Are there any action groups out there we can start petitioning with? The FA long gave up being a viable body for any meaningful action. |
There are groups out there. They have been boycotting Checkertrade Trophy for years because of the Prem B teams in there. We didn't understand and filled the away end at Colchester.
@AgainstLeague3 is worth a look on twitter | | | |
| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 12:28 - Jul 2 with 2624 views | sparks |
| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 12:00 - Jul 2 by Keaneish |
Farcical. Only a matter of time before a European Super League and League One and Two clubs become feeder clubs. Are there any action groups out there we can start petitioning with? The FA long gave up being a viable body for any meaningful action. |
Really no point. Why would the PL and clubs in it take any notice of anyone complaining? | |
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| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 12:29 - Jul 2 with 2627 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
I disagree on this one.
With the intention that the Championship are also set to have salary cap from the 21/22 season, the salary cap is incredibly important to the longevity of the game and clubs.
The finances in football have ballooned out of control, a market reset is much needed.
Will also naturally promote the introduction of more development of academy products. For a team like us that will not spend large amounts regardless, finding talent young and developing them is our best way to level the playing field, the more that it is forced upon to do so the better. |  |
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| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 13:10 - Jul 2 with 2523 views | sparks |
| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 12:29 - Jul 2 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
I disagree on this one.
With the intention that the Championship are also set to have salary cap from the 21/22 season, the salary cap is incredibly important to the longevity of the game and clubs.
The finances in football have ballooned out of control, a market reset is much needed.
Will also naturally promote the introduction of more development of academy products. For a team like us that will not spend large amounts regardless, finding talent young and developing them is our best way to level the playing field, the more that it is forced upon to do so the better. |
But unless the PL engages- it simply enlarges the gap. PL Club - "Hey young players on 5k a week in the champ- come and enjoy life with us for 30k a week. If you dont make it, you can always go out on loan, or move later once you are financially made for life"
the 50 best players at champ academies :"Cool. When do I start?"
I appreciate that these caps may well apply to over 21s- but that is still young, and the same principle applies to older players anyway. [Post edited 2 Jul 2020 13:11]
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| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 13:24 - Jul 2 with 2486 views | bournemouthblue |
| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 12:29 - Jul 2 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
I disagree on this one.
With the intention that the Championship are also set to have salary cap from the 21/22 season, the salary cap is incredibly important to the longevity of the game and clubs.
The finances in football have ballooned out of control, a market reset is much needed.
Will also naturally promote the introduction of more development of academy products. For a team like us that will not spend large amounts regardless, finding talent young and developing them is our best way to level the playing field, the more that it is forced upon to do so the better. |
I'm led to believe the Championship sides aren't keen on a wage caps and therefore that makes the ideas of a League One cap a bit farcical
There will be Championship clubs who are paying £20 million+ currently
£2.5 million is far too low, if we're paying £7.5 million, that's a massive reduction
Surely a lot of League One clubs are above £2.5 million? It can only really be the bottom echelon who are any where near £2.5 million? [Post edited 2 Jul 2020 13:25]
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| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 13:50 - Jul 2 with 2422 views | rickw |
| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 13:24 - Jul 2 by bournemouthblue |
I'm led to believe the Championship sides aren't keen on a wage caps and therefore that makes the ideas of a League One cap a bit farcical
There will be Championship clubs who are paying £20 million+ currently
£2.5 million is far too low, if we're paying £7.5 million, that's a massive reduction
Surely a lot of League One clubs are above £2.5 million? It can only really be the bottom echelon who are any where near £2.5 million? [Post edited 2 Jul 2020 13:25]
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I think more financial control is a good thing to stop what's happened at Bury and Bolton, however a club with 20k fans each week can sustain a higher wage than one getting 4k fans so the wage cap should somehow reflect income |  |
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| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 13:52 - Jul 2 with 2419 views | southnorfolkblue |
| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 13:24 - Jul 2 by bournemouthblue |
I'm led to believe the Championship sides aren't keen on a wage caps and therefore that makes the ideas of a League One cap a bit farcical
There will be Championship clubs who are paying £20 million+ currently
£2.5 million is far too low, if we're paying £7.5 million, that's a massive reduction
Surely a lot of League One clubs are above £2.5 million? It can only really be the bottom echelon who are any where near £2.5 million? [Post edited 2 Jul 2020 13:25]
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Personally I don’t see what is wrong with the current set up which allows Clubs to spend a percentage of turnover on wages. This basically dumbs down the level of League 1 to the finances of the smaller clubs. This is potentially disastrous for us. | |
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| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 13:58 - Jul 2 with 2387 views | sparks |
| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 13:52 - Jul 2 by southnorfolkblue |
Personally I don’t see what is wrong with the current set up which allows Clubs to spend a percentage of turnover on wages. This basically dumbs down the level of League 1 to the finances of the smaller clubs. This is potentially disastrous for us. |
Indeed- if it is properly applied and based on income, that ought to be a proper and sustainable model. | |
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| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 14:04 - Jul 2 with 2375 views | DinnernotTea |
| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 12:19 - Jul 2 by bobbyramsey |
Playing staff over 21 years of age apparently. |
In that case then I think it's fair. Say we had 20 of these players then it's a £125,000 per year job. For kicking a ball (out of play) in the third tier of English football. | |
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| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 14:22 - Jul 2 with 2341 views | tractorboy1978 |
| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 13:58 - Jul 2 by sparks |
Indeed- if it is properly applied and based on income, that ought to be a proper and sustainable model. |
It's more sustainable than a blanket £2.5m cap across the board.
I really do think this year is properly sh!t or bust for us. We HAVE to get promoted. | | | |
| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 14:26 - Jul 2 with 2320 views | sparks |
| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 14:04 - Jul 2 by DinnernotTea |
In that case then I think it's fair. Say we had 20 of these players then it's a £125,000 per year job. For kicking a ball (out of play) in the third tier of English football. |
£125k per year. 20 players at 5k a week.
Champ club comes along- "come and be a squad player for £15k".
We get promoted, and have a squad full of players who are only worth 5k a week, playing against champ clubs whohave gathered all the best players together on higher salaries. It just increases the step up massively. | |
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| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 14:31 - Jul 2 with 2303 views | tractorboy1978 |
| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 14:26 - Jul 2 by sparks |
£125k per year. 20 players at 5k a week.
Champ club comes along- "come and be a squad player for £15k".
We get promoted, and have a squad full of players who are only worth 5k a week, playing against champ clubs whohave gathered all the best players together on higher salaries. It just increases the step up massively. |
**£2.5k per week! | | | |
| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 14:32 - Jul 2 with 2301 views | DinnernotTea |
| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 14:26 - Jul 2 by sparks |
£125k per year. 20 players at 5k a week.
Champ club comes along- "come and be a squad player for £15k".
We get promoted, and have a squad full of players who are only worth 5k a week, playing against champ clubs whohave gathered all the best players together on higher salaries. It just increases the step up massively. |
But the point being is that promotion or no promotion £125,000 per year to finish 11th in the third tier is an incredible wage. Absolutely pointless arguing about what the Championship will or won't be paying until there's a decision if they too will have a cap.
From purely a business model point of view why should Marcus Evans pay a single player at this poor level of football more than £125,000? | |
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| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 14:36 - Jul 2 with 2294 views | sparks |
| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 14:32 - Jul 2 by DinnernotTea |
But the point being is that promotion or no promotion £125,000 per year to finish 11th in the third tier is an incredible wage. Absolutely pointless arguing about what the Championship will or won't be paying until there's a decision if they too will have a cap.
From purely a business model point of view why should Marcus Evans pay a single player at this poor level of football more than £125,000? |
Because thats how a market works. You pay to get the best in. If the other divisions dont do it- then you are at a massive disadvantage.
2.5m is a very modest proportion of our turnover, even in L1. The whole thing drags bigger more affluent clubs down to the level of the low end ones, and forces them to compete in the same market.
You might as well just have a US style player draft at that point. And you will almost never hang on to a decen academy player- especially once they hit 21. That would make use a feeder / training club for the upper divisions and not much more. | |
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| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 14:43 - Jul 2 with 2285 views | DinnernotTea |
| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 14:36 - Jul 2 by sparks |
Because thats how a market works. You pay to get the best in. If the other divisions dont do it- then you are at a massive disadvantage.
2.5m is a very modest proportion of our turnover, even in L1. The whole thing drags bigger more affluent clubs down to the level of the low end ones, and forces them to compete in the same market.
You might as well just have a US style player draft at that point. And you will almost never hang on to a decen academy player- especially once they hit 21. That would make use a feeder / training club for the upper divisions and not much more. |
"You pay to get the best in"
No you don't. Ipswich and Sunderland proved that this season, neither club got promoted. Fleetwood & Wycombe proved what you can do on £2.5m budget.
Our wage bill is £7.5m. Majority/all of the Championship will be north of £20m so we're already at a huge disadvantage. | |
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| This £2.5 million League One salary cap on 14:49 - Jul 2 with 2273 views | ArnieM |
This is just the Sky funded Premier League / distorted Championship, Mark II at a lower level.
This salary cap will effectively kill off any hope of lower league teams getting promoted or staying in the Championship. And as usual ITFC are the wrong sodding side of the fence when the shutters come down. This salary cap will effectively consign ITFC to lower league football for good., by disempowering * us financially. It wouldn’t matte4 if a mulitibillionaire bought this Club, they will be restricted b6 this £2.5m wage cap. Not a f lucking hope of recruiting better players. |  |
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