| This will upset some.... on 04:17 - Jul 17 with 864 views | SpruceMoose |
| This will upset some.... on 03:59 - Jul 17 by LittleBoyBlue |
Yes all those years at university and the degrees I have on the wall of my office are completely fabrication of my mind, I fabricated a 30 year work career, just so I can pull the wool over your eyes.
Now you have found my deep dark secret (sarcasm, as you are incapableof understanding it), can you please stop insulting people and ACTUALLY PROVIDE SOME EVIDENCE THAT IS RELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION, BECAUSE I HAVE YET TO SEE ANYTHING WRITTEN BY YOU THAT ACTUALLY ADDRESSES THE FACTS PRESENTED, YOU ARE FAR MORE LIKE TRUMP THAN ME, MAKING BASELESS ACCUSATIONS AND THROWING INSULTS AROUND BECAUSE YOU ARE INCAPABLE OF PROVIDING ANY TRUTHFUL STATEMENTS.
So please either stop embarrassing yourself and provide some evidence and details of the facts instead of just trying to bully people with insulting bluster, to avoid the fact you are completely wrong yet again. [Post edited 17 Jul 2020 4:00]
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Pure fantasy.
Now. Calm down.
You seem like you might not be the best person to assist others with mental health issues, given how you seem to have a few anger issues of your own that need resolving.
Top ranting though. All this because you got your facts wrong. Again.
Just remember, going forwards, that you can't declare bankruptcy, or rescind your British citizenship, just by saying it out loud. It's more complicated than that.
Surely a man with such a highly decorated wall would know such things? The pictures below might help you understand the concept.
Anyway, goodnight Dr. Oetker. [Post edited 17 Jul 2020 4:34]
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| This will upset some.... on 04:36 - Jul 17 with 831 views | LittleBoyBlue |
| This will upset some.... on 04:17 - Jul 17 by SpruceMoose |
Pure fantasy.
Now. Calm down.
You seem like you might not be the best person to assist others with mental health issues, given how you seem to have a few anger issues of your own that need resolving.
Top ranting though. All this because you got your facts wrong. Again.
Just remember, going forwards, that you can't declare bankruptcy, or rescind your British citizenship, just by saying it out loud. It's more complicated than that.
Surely a man with such a highly decorated wall would know such things? The pictures below might help you understand the concept.
Anyway, goodnight Dr. Oetker. [Post edited 17 Jul 2020 4:34]
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Why do I need to calm down, do you think I didn't do that knowing full well what your response would be, wow you really are dumber than I thought, yes I've insulted you, and no I can act in any way I choose with anybody, some people require finesse, others require a sledge hammer.
Again you are putting words in my mouth, changing things to suit your twisted views. I didn't say she had revoked it with her words, I said she wanted to revoke it because she said she hated this country. So yet again, you are wrong, incorrect, being fallacious. And yet again you have still not managed to provide ONE single fact in over a dozen posts where you just try to insult people to win internet points for your inflated ego. If you are like this in real life it's a wonder you actually have any friends left, I guess though in person you're too scared to voice your real thoughts as most cowards are. [Post edited 17 Jul 2020 4:38]
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| This will upset some.... on 04:43 - Jul 17 with 823 views | SpruceMoose |
| This will upset some.... on 04:36 - Jul 17 by LittleBoyBlue |
Why do I need to calm down, do you think I didn't do that knowing full well what your response would be, wow you really are dumber than I thought, yes I've insulted you, and no I can act in any way I choose with anybody, some people require finesse, others require a sledge hammer.
Again you are putting words in my mouth, changing things to suit your twisted views. I didn't say she had revoked it with her words, I said she wanted to revoke it because she said she hated this country. So yet again, you are wrong, incorrect, being fallacious. And yet again you have still not managed to provide ONE single fact in over a dozen posts where you just try to insult people to win internet points for your inflated ego. If you are like this in real life it's a wonder you actually have any friends left, I guess though in person you're too scared to voice your real thoughts as most cowards are. [Post edited 17 Jul 2020 4:38]
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"I didn't say she had revoked it [her citizenship] with her words"
Wrong again. Yes you did.
Direct quotes:
"She revoked her British national status herself in an interview when she was in ISIS"
"she chose to revoke her status when she was in ISIS"
"She said she wasn't a British citizen anymore, when she was found in ISIS, so she willingly chose to revoke her citizenship."
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| This will upset some.... on 05:03 - Jul 17 with 805 views | LittleBoyBlue |
| This will upset some.... on 04:43 - Jul 17 by SpruceMoose |
"I didn't say she had revoked it [her citizenship] with her words"
Wrong again. Yes you did.
Direct quotes:
"She revoked her British national status herself in an interview when she was in ISIS"
"she chose to revoke her status when she was in ISIS"
"She said she wasn't a British citizen anymore, when she was found in ISIS, so she willingly chose to revoke her citizenship."
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Again I question your reading ability of the English language, I never said she HAD revoked it, I said she revoked it, which is a completely different sentence meaning. Maybe it's a bit too ambiguous for you to understand. I'll explain, if something has happened it needs a definitive word in the sentence structure, to indicate it's and action that happened, without a definitive it's open to interpretation, she wanted to revoke, she revoked it personally, she didn't revoke it legally. Now can you understand the mistake you have made, or do I need to explain 7 yr old English lessons to you. Just because most people are lazy in the way the speak and type, doesn't mean I am, as you have commented on before and I explained I prefer to write longer passages to be clearer in my speech. Obviously I'm not doing a good enough job where you are concerned, maybe I should resort to speaking to you as I would a child.
And you are still yet to provide evidence anything I stated was wrong, you are again picking up on spelling, language and grammar to reinforce your argument. I've had better discussions with brick walls than I have with you this evening, at least a brick wall can give a more constructive answer than you have provided so far. | |
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| This will upset some.... on 06:16 - Jul 17 with 774 views | Herbivore |
| This will upset some.... on 02:11 - Jul 17 by LittleBoyBlue |
I didn't say it wasn't. The difference between the two is basically I'm in the therapy area as a psychologist, whereas a psychiatrist is more doctor like, they diagnose and prescribe medications for treatments, they deal with effects of mental illness in way I don't. I treat patients with therapy, not with drugs.
The psyche is dealt with more in psychiatry than psychology, because it's to with the state of the whole mind, body and soul (to quote Jung), therefore it's far more more important for a psychiatrist to learn about it as they are unable to diagnose without studying the state of someone's mind. In psychology we have no need to delve as deep into a humans mind and past to offer therapeutic treatment, we may know and understand all about it, but it's not really relevant to our job, which is healing peoples egos, their sense of self which is damaged due to trauma, recent or old, physical or mental. Psychiatry does that with medication, they don't offer therapy in the same way.
So yes the psyche is more relevant to psychiatry than to psychology, as to us it has no relevance if it's not useful in helping a patient to understand and heal themselves. |
It really isn't. You are not a clinical psychologist, not a chance. I suspect you've picked up some dubious counselling qualification online at best. |  |
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| This will upset some.... on 06:27 - Jul 17 with 768 views | trueblue1970 |
| This will upset some.... on 02:43 - Jul 17 by SpruceMoose |
Who did you used to post as? Was it Donald Trump? He's the only other person I can think of who massively overestimates his own intelligence to the extent you're doing here. |
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| This will upset some.... on 07:52 - Jul 17 with 720 views | gordon |
| This will upset some.... on 05:03 - Jul 17 by LittleBoyBlue |
Again I question your reading ability of the English language, I never said she HAD revoked it, I said she revoked it, which is a completely different sentence meaning. Maybe it's a bit too ambiguous for you to understand. I'll explain, if something has happened it needs a definitive word in the sentence structure, to indicate it's and action that happened, without a definitive it's open to interpretation, she wanted to revoke, she revoked it personally, she didn't revoke it legally. Now can you understand the mistake you have made, or do I need to explain 7 yr old English lessons to you. Just because most people are lazy in the way the speak and type, doesn't mean I am, as you have commented on before and I explained I prefer to write longer passages to be clearer in my speech. Obviously I'm not doing a good enough job where you are concerned, maybe I should resort to speaking to you as I would a child.
And you are still yet to provide evidence anything I stated was wrong, you are again picking up on spelling, language and grammar to reinforce your argument. I've had better discussions with brick walls than I have with you this evening, at least a brick wall can give a more constructive answer than you have provided so far. |
On the grammar, the difference between 'she revoked' , and 'she had revoked', is that the second one is the past perfect tense, the first is the past simple tense.
'She revoked' (past simple) describes an action which occurred in the past. 'She had revoked' also describes an action which occurred in the past, before some other event in the past.
e.g. in a sentence: 'She had revoked, but after the Judge read LittleBoyBlue's comments on TWTD, he decided to reinstate her citizenship.' [Post edited 17 Jul 2020 7:53]
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| This will upset some.... on 08:20 - Jul 17 with 705 views | BlueBadger |
| This will upset some.... on 20:22 - Jul 16 by 26_Paz |
Not getting up from anything. Obviously I don’t support Sharia law. I do support capital punishment for treason (probably would for some murder cases as well). This is very different to stoning people for adultery and pushing homosexuals off buildings. |
Yeah, there's a world of difference between putting children to death and that. |  |
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| This will upset some.... on 08:36 - Jul 17 with 675 views | 26_Paz |
Blimey lads, were some of you up all night?! |  |
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| This will upset some.... on 08:39 - Jul 17 with 667 views | Herbivore |
| This will upset some.... on 08:36 - Jul 17 by 26_Paz |
Blimey lads, were some of you up all night?! |
Yes mate, couldn't sleep wondering what kind of civilised person would want to execute someone who committed a crime as a 15 year old child. | |
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| This will upset some.... on 08:45 - Jul 17 with 654 views | 26_Paz |
| This will upset some.... on 08:39 - Jul 17 by Herbivore |
Yes mate, couldn't sleep wondering what kind of civilised person would want to execute someone who committed a crime as a 15 year old child. |
And continued to commit said crimes for the next 4 or 5 years. | |
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| This will upset some.... on 08:48 - Jul 17 with 649 views | StokieBlue |
| This will upset some.... on 05:03 - Jul 17 by LittleBoyBlue |
Again I question your reading ability of the English language, I never said she HAD revoked it, I said she revoked it, which is a completely different sentence meaning. Maybe it's a bit too ambiguous for you to understand. I'll explain, if something has happened it needs a definitive word in the sentence structure, to indicate it's and action that happened, without a definitive it's open to interpretation, she wanted to revoke, she revoked it personally, she didn't revoke it legally. Now can you understand the mistake you have made, or do I need to explain 7 yr old English lessons to you. Just because most people are lazy in the way the speak and type, doesn't mean I am, as you have commented on before and I explained I prefer to write longer passages to be clearer in my speech. Obviously I'm not doing a good enough job where you are concerned, maybe I should resort to speaking to you as I would a child.
And you are still yet to provide evidence anything I stated was wrong, you are again picking up on spelling, language and grammar to reinforce your argument. I've had better discussions with brick walls than I have with you this evening, at least a brick wall can give a more constructive answer than you have provided so far. |
"She revoked her British national status herself in an interview when she was in ISIS"
It doesn't work that way. One can say anything they like but unless it's done legally using due-process then it's just words. Try being a US citizen and then denouncing your citizenship in an interview and see if the IRS decide you don't need to pay taxes anymore.
Given this the rest of your arguments are built on a fault premise.
Furthermore if you are a psychologist surely you can attest to the ease in which young people (a child in this case as she was 15) can be influenced, persuaded and even brainwashed into believing things that they wouldn't have believed if left to reach their own conclusions?
Given this I find your stance puzzling and a bit worrying.
"I prefer to write longer passages to be clearer in my speech"
One can be clear in their speech without requiring more words.
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| This will upset some.... on 08:48 - Jul 17 with 643 views | Herbivore |
| This will upset some.... on 08:45 - Jul 17 by 26_Paz |
And continued to commit said crimes for the next 4 or 5 years. |
Which crimes specifically did she commit? I would imagine her main and possible only offence would be joining a terrorist organisation, which she did at 15. And you'd see her executed for that. I find that quite troubling. | |
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| This will upset some.... on 08:51 - Jul 17 with 639 views | footers |
| This will upset some.... on 08:48 - Jul 17 by StokieBlue |
"She revoked her British national status herself in an interview when she was in ISIS"
It doesn't work that way. One can say anything they like but unless it's done legally using due-process then it's just words. Try being a US citizen and then denouncing your citizenship in an interview and see if the IRS decide you don't need to pay taxes anymore.
Given this the rest of your arguments are built on a fault premise.
Furthermore if you are a psychologist surely you can attest to the ease in which young people (a child in this case as she was 15) can be influenced, persuaded and even brainwashed into believing things that they wouldn't have believed if left to reach their own conclusions?
Given this I find your stance puzzling and a bit worrying.
"I prefer to write longer passages to be clearer in my speech"
One can be clear in their speech without requiring more words.
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Indeed. An economy of words is the mark of a truly great thinker. Which is why my posts are always so short, innit.
Happy Friday, TWTDers! Don't let any nonsense get to you and don't resort to any comfort eating, for the weekend is almost here. |  |
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| This will upset some.... on 09:08 - Jul 17 with 624 views | jonbull88 |
| This will upset some.... on 08:48 - Jul 17 by Herbivore |
Which crimes specifically did she commit? I would imagine her main and possible only offence would be joining a terrorist organisation, which she did at 15. And you'd see her executed for that. I find that quite troubling. |
If someone joins a gang here, which goes round murdering people, even if they don’t pull the trigger, they are still an accomplice. Would you be happy for them to get off lightly or get the same conviction as the whole gang?
At 15 someone is old enough to make a decision about joining a group that goes round murdering different religions and faiths. She made the decision to go there, marry a soldier, bare his children, become a poster girl for Isis.
We have enough people being watched here as it is. Some have and some WILL slip through the net, and we all have seen the shocking scenes around the world when this happens. So sorry if my views don’t a line with yours. Yes I would like to see Terrorists Executed, however that doesn’t happen here anymore, so life in jail in a straight suit would do. | | | |
| This will upset some.... on 09:08 - Jul 17 with 622 views | 26_Paz |
| This will upset some.... on 08:48 - Jul 17 by Herbivore |
Which crimes specifically did she commit? I would imagine her main and possible only offence would be joining a terrorist organisation, which she did at 15. And you'd see her executed for that. I find that quite troubling. |
Aiding and abetting multiple murders. I don’t know the exact name of the law but there’s something about preparing acts of terrorism. I think there is still a crime of treason. As some have alluded to on here that are reports (although unconfirmed of her committing murders).
I can understand people are against the death penalty, I get that. I also get the argument that she was a minor, I personally don’t think it is an excuse in this situation but I get the argument.
However you look at it she has one hell of a rap sheet ... I don’t get anyone trying to pretend otherwise. | |
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| This will upset some.... on 09:13 - Jul 17 with 613 views | Seablu |
| This will upset some.... on 05:03 - Jul 17 by LittleBoyBlue |
Again I question your reading ability of the English language, I never said she HAD revoked it, I said she revoked it, which is a completely different sentence meaning. Maybe it's a bit too ambiguous for you to understand. I'll explain, if something has happened it needs a definitive word in the sentence structure, to indicate it's and action that happened, without a definitive it's open to interpretation, she wanted to revoke, she revoked it personally, she didn't revoke it legally. Now can you understand the mistake you have made, or do I need to explain 7 yr old English lessons to you. Just because most people are lazy in the way the speak and type, doesn't mean I am, as you have commented on before and I explained I prefer to write longer passages to be clearer in my speech. Obviously I'm not doing a good enough job where you are concerned, maybe I should resort to speaking to you as I would a child.
And you are still yet to provide evidence anything I stated was wrong, you are again picking up on spelling, language and grammar to reinforce your argument. I've had better discussions with brick walls than I have with you this evening, at least a brick wall can give a more constructive answer than you have provided so far. |
I sense you’re investing considerable time and effort into this character, but it’s just not working as well as it could have.
The very premise of a decorated psychiatrist deciding to pseudo analyse a group of posters on a league 1 football forum has a limited scope really.
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| This will upset some.... on 09:14 - Jul 17 with 610 views | Herbivore |
| This will upset some.... on 09:08 - Jul 17 by 26_Paz |
Aiding and abetting multiple murders. I don’t know the exact name of the law but there’s something about preparing acts of terrorism. I think there is still a crime of treason. As some have alluded to on here that are reports (although unconfirmed of her committing murders).
I can understand people are against the death penalty, I get that. I also get the argument that she was a minor, I personally don’t think it is an excuse in this situation but I get the argument.
However you look at it she has one hell of a rap sheet ... I don’t get anyone trying to pretend otherwise. |
Is there any evidence of her preparing acts of terrorism? She seemed to spend most of her time preparing meals and having kids.
She was 15 when she went there, she was groomed. What are your views on other scenarios where 15 year old girls are groomed by older males? Do you think they deserve no legal protection because they know what they're doing? | |
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| This will upset some.... on 09:18 - Jul 17 with 602 views | footers |
| This will upset some.... on 09:13 - Jul 17 by Seablu |
I sense you’re investing considerable time and effort into this character, but it’s just not working as well as it could have.
The very premise of a decorated psychiatrist deciding to pseudo analyse a group of posters on a league 1 football forum has a limited scope really.
Back to the drawing board after one series I fear. |
It was a disappointing attempt. I'm not sure many well-adjusted, highly successful psychologists are up arguing the toss at 4am. But takes all sorts I suppose. | |
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| This will upset some.... on 09:18 - Jul 17 with 601 views | Herbivore |
| This will upset some.... on 09:08 - Jul 17 by jonbull88 |
If someone joins a gang here, which goes round murdering people, even if they don’t pull the trigger, they are still an accomplice. Would you be happy for them to get off lightly or get the same conviction as the whole gang?
At 15 someone is old enough to make a decision about joining a group that goes round murdering different religions and faiths. She made the decision to go there, marry a soldier, bare his children, become a poster girl for Isis.
We have enough people being watched here as it is. Some have and some WILL slip through the net, and we all have seen the shocking scenes around the world when this happens. So sorry if my views don’t a line with yours. Yes I would like to see Terrorists Executed, however that doesn’t happen here anymore, so life in jail in a straight suit would do. |
Actually you're only complicit in an act of murder legally if it is a joint venture, which requires you to be present at the crime scene itself, not just to be a member of the gang that committed the crime. We don't know that she participated in any of those acts. She was married off at 15 and having kids, she wasn't wielding an AK-47.
If you think 15 years old is old enough to know what your doing I'll ask you the same question I asked Paz. Do you think 15 year old girls who are groomed by older men don't deserve legal protection as they are old enough to know what they are doing?
You're taking about wanting to execute someone who committed an offence at the age of 15. I'd like to be as polite as I can, frankly you need to have a word with yourself. | |
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| This will upset some.... on 09:18 - Jul 17 with 600 views | 26_Paz |
| This will upset some.... on 09:14 - Jul 17 by Herbivore |
Is there any evidence of her preparing acts of terrorism? She seemed to spend most of her time preparing meals and having kids.
She was 15 when she went there, she was groomed. What are your views on other scenarios where 15 year old girls are groomed by older males? Do you think they deserve no legal protection because they know what they're doing? |
She was in ISIS mate, it doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to tell you she was preparing acts of terrorism.
With regard your comparison to other cases, the individuals in question there would not have happily blown me up given half the chance therefore I tend to take a somewhat more sympathetic view towards them. | |
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| This will upset some.... on 09:20 - Jul 17 with 596 views | Herbivore |
| This will upset some.... on 09:18 - Jul 17 by 26_Paz |
She was in ISIS mate, it doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to tell you she was preparing acts of terrorism.
With regard your comparison to other cases, the individuals in question there would not have happily blown me up given half the chance therefore I tend to take a somewhat more sympathetic view towards them. |
It takes evidence to prosecute someone for preparing acts of terrorism and you have no evidence. She went over there and was married off, she was someone's wife and she had three children in the space of 4 years. Do you think she had time to actually plan and prepare specific acts of terrorism? You have no evidence to substantiate that claim.
Nice swerve at the end there. | |
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| This will upset some.... on 09:24 - Jul 17 with 579 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| This will upset some.... on 19:48 - Jul 16 by 26_Paz |
I said tried. Wouldn’t have pulled the trigger on any but assisting a foreign power or organisation in armed struggle against the country of your birth is in my mind worthy of capital punishment. |
So enlisting the aid of a foreign govt, let's say, oh I don't know, Russia, in order to get yourself elected to carry out a plan which most people agree will be of some detriment to the UK, say, Brexit, wouldn't be considered treason? In that the impact of said actions will impact the people of this country far more than the actions of one 15 year old girl? |  |
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| This will upset some.... on 09:26 - Jul 17 with 568 views | 26_Paz |
| This will upset some.... on 09:20 - Jul 17 by Herbivore |
It takes evidence to prosecute someone for preparing acts of terrorism and you have no evidence. She went over there and was married off, she was someone's wife and she had three children in the space of 4 years. Do you think she had time to actually plan and prepare specific acts of terrorism? You have no evidence to substantiate that claim.
Nice swerve at the end there. |
Obviously I don’t have the evidence because I’m just a pleb on an Internet forum. The security services must have evidence though or they wouldn’t have revoked her citizenship, this evidence will be highly classified.
I haven’t swerved your question at all. You asked me why I treat her differently to underage girls who are groomed for sex. I answered that those other girls are not hell bent on murdering anyone who doesn’t subscribe to their barbaric ideology. For that reason I would treat her differently to innocent young women. | |
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| This will upset some.... on 09:28 - Jul 17 with 559 views | 26_Paz |
| This will upset some.... on 09:24 - Jul 17 by Ewan_Oozami |
So enlisting the aid of a foreign govt, let's say, oh I don't know, Russia, in order to get yourself elected to carry out a plan which most people agree will be of some detriment to the UK, say, Brexit, wouldn't be considered treason? In that the impact of said actions will impact the people of this country far more than the actions of one 15 year old girl? |
Boris didn’t need the help of a foreign government to win that election mate. JC did all that for him. | |
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